The Community Cats Podcast

• Revolutionizing Kitten Care: The Kitten College Model, Featuring Marnie Russ, Founder, National Kitten College

  "A cat that is well socialized is highly adoptable. A cat that is not well socialized sits in the shelter. It's an important part of your fostering responsibility to get them ready to live outside. Before it was just saving their lives. But now we know better.” This episode is sponsored-in-part by Maddie’s Fund and The Community Cat Clinic. In this episode, host Stacy LeBaron welcomes back Marnie Russ, founder of National Kitten College, for an update on her innovative approach to neonatal kitten care. Since her first appearance on the podcast in 2016-2017, Marnei has grown her innovative "Kitten College" program from a small local initiative into a national movement that has fundamentally changed how shelters approach kitten fostering and care. What started as a business plan that would have "gotten an F in college" has evolved into a sophisticated system that increased kitten saves from 92 to nearly 1,600 annually while achieving an extraordinary 94-96% live release rate for neonates. Marnie explains how her grade-based foster system (freshman, sophomore, junior, senior) allows fosters to specialize in the age groups they prefer while ensuring kittens receive optimal socialization through multiple placements. This model challenges traditional fostering wisdom that discouraged moving kittens between homes, instead proving that strategic movement enhances socialization and health outcomes. She details how the program evolved organically, with fosters creating their own "conveyor belt" systems and team approaches that maximize both volunteer satisfaction and kitten success rates. The conversation explores the critical intersection between TNR work and kitten programs, addressing how Kitten College supports community cat efforts by providing reliable placement options for trapped litters. Marnie discusses her partnership with UC Davis and University of Florida to ensure all recommendations align with current shelter medicine best practices, her work developing the first national neonatal kitten training center, and her commitment to making these resources free or low-cost for rural and under-resourced communities. This episode demonstrates how innovative thinking about traditional shelter practices can create scalable solutions that benefit both animals and the people who care for them. Press play now for: How Marnie's original collaboration with National Kitten Coalition led to studying major nurseries nationwide The evolution from 92 kittens annually to nearly 1,600 with 94-96% live release rates for neonates The grade-based foster system (freshman through senior) that allows specialization and prevents foster burnout Why moving kittens between foster homes improves socialization rather than harming it How the "conveyor belt" system emerged organically with foster teams working together The critical connection between TNR efforts and kitten placement programs during summer months Partnership strategies between Kitten College programs and community cat trappers Working with UC Davis and University of Florida to align practices with current shelter medicine Development of the first national neonatal kitten training center in partnership with Humane Rescue Alliance The transition from Animal Welfare League of Arlington to becoming an independent national nonprofit Funding challenges and commitment to providing free or low-cost services to rural communities Success of "Taking the Fear out of Bottle Feeding" course as Maddie's University's top-performing class Why traditional "every two hours" feeding schedules are outdated and discourage potential fosters Creating community connections where kitten programs can support each other nationally The importance of employer partnerships to enable workplace bottle feeding for dedicated fosters Resources mentioned: National Kitten College website (https://www.kittencollege.org/) Email: [email protected] National Kitten College Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/p/National-Kitten-College-61558629895690/) Maddie's University online courses (https://university.maddiesfund.org/) Animal Welfare League of Arlington - original program location (https://www.awla.org/) Animal Welfare League of Arlington Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/AWLArlington/) Humane Rescue Alliance - DC partnership (https://www.humanerescuealliance.org/) Humane Rescue Alliance Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/humanerescuealliance/) UC Davis Koret Shelter Medicine Program (https://www.shelterlearniverse.com/) University of Florida Shelter Medicine Program (https://sheltermedicine.vetmed.ufl.edu/) National Kitten Coalition (https://kittencoalition.org/) Sponsor Links: Maddie's Fund (https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/maddies623) The Community Cat Clinic (https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/catclinicga) Follow & Review We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. 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• From Founder to Ambassador: Building Sustainable Community Cat Programs Featuring Joy Smith, Founder and Ambassador, FieldHaven Feline Center

  "We want to turn cat haters into cat toleraters, and that has worked so well. Even the people who say 'I hate cats.' Okay, that's fine if you hate cats. But don't wish them dead. We're gonna work to keep them out of your yard." This episode is sponsored-in-part by Maddie’s Fund and 6 Degrees of Cats. In this inspiring episode, host Stacy LeBaron welcomes Joy Smith, founder of FieldHaven Feline Center in Lincoln, California, who shares her remarkable journey from accidentally rescuing a few cats on her street to building a $1.5 million organization that has transformed entire communities. Joy's story begins in 2003 when a simple call to help with trapping led to raising kittens in her barn's tack room, selling them at a local farmer's market, and ultimately creating one of California's most innovative community cat programs. Her evolution from reluctant rescuer to strategic leader offers valuable lessons about growing sustainable, community-focused programs. Joy details FieldHaven's groundbreaking partnership with the Marysville Police Department, which began in 2018 with a goal to spay and neuter every cat in the city. She explains how they overcame initial community resistance through education, implemented a feeding ordinance to address business owner concerns, and created a comprehensive system that includes mobile spay/neuter clinics, vaccine and microchip services, and community resource centers. The program's success demonstrates how strategic thinking, community engagement, and municipal support can transform a city overrun with cats into one operating in maintenance mode with occasional weeks where they can't fill their spay/neuter quota. The conversation also explores Joy's recent transition from executive director to founder and ambassador, sharing the challenges and rewards of succession planning in animal welfare organizations. Her insights about treating nonprofits as businesses, paying competitive salaries to attract talent, and the cultural shift toward recognizing pets as family members offer valuable perspective for leaders navigating organizational growth and sustainability in today's evolving animal welfare landscape. Press Play Now For: Joy's accidental entry into cat rescue and the organic growth from tack room to multi-location organization Strategic expansion philosophy: starting with your backyard and expanding community by community The Marysville Police Department partnership and how municipal support transforms TNR efforts Community education strategies for turning resistance into acceptance and "cat haters into cat toleraters" Implementation of feeding ordinances and how addressing business owner concerns solved community conflicts Mobile spay/neuter clinics, vaccine programs, and resource centers as comprehensive community solutions Training animal control officers in TNR methods and creating internal advocates The importance of microchipping for tracking outcomes and addressing dumping issues Four-year succession planning process and the challenges of transitioning founder leadership Running nonprofits as businesses while maintaining mission focus and community trust Salary competitiveness in animal welfare and attracting career professionals to the field Cultural shifts in spay/neuter acceptance and the exciting future of animal welfare careers Innovative programs like "Kitten Sitters" that engage community members as part of the solution FieldHaven's expansion to four locations and disaster response work including the Camp Fire recovery Resources Mentioned: FieldHaven Feline Center website (https://fieldhaven.com/) FieldHaven Feline Center Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/FieldHaven/) FieldHaven Marketplace - thrift store and adoption center (https://www.fieldhavenmarketplace.com/) Animal Spay and Neuter - Auburn, California (https://animalspayneuter.com/) Animal Spay and Neuter Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/p/Animal-Spay-and-Neuter-Auburn-100063466875709/) Dan Pallotta TED Talk: "The way we think about charity is dead wrong"(https://www.ted.com/talks/dan_pallotta_the_way_we_think_about_charity_is_dead_wrong) Dan Pallotta's official website (https://www.danpallotta.com/) "The Fire Cats: Save Something Small" documentary - Camp Fire recovery (https://www.thefirecatsfilm.com/) FieldHaven's Kitten Sitters program (https://fieldhaven.com/programs/kitten-sitters/) Sponsor Links: Maddie's Fund (https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/maddies623) Six Degrees of Cats (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/6-degrees-of-cats/id1669849217) Follow & Review We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. 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• Building Professional Community Cat Programs: From Strategy to Implementation, Featuring Elizabeth Finch, Educator, Author, and Community Cat Program Consultant

  "A community cat program does not just help cats. You think you're going in there to help cats and you turn out really having more impact on the people in that community." This episode is sponsored-in-part by Maddie’s Fund and 6 Degrees of Cats. In this insightful episode, host Stacy LeBaron welcomes back Elizabeth Finch, an impact-driven leader who has been transforming community cat programming since 2015. Elizabeth's journey from launching a robust community cat program serving over 4,000 cats annually in metro Atlanta to becoming an educator and consultant offers valuable lessons for anyone looking to create systematic change. Her experience reveals how effective community cat work extends far beyond individual rescue efforts to become a comprehensive approach that benefits both cats and the people who care about them. Elizabeth shares the strategic thinking behind successful community cat programs, emphasizing the importance of moving beyond "onesie-twosie" approaches to tackle entire colonies, neighborhoods, and zip codes systematically. The conversation explores how she and Stacy partnered to create the first-of-its-kind Community Cat Program Management Certification course at University of the Pacific, addressing the gap between skilled trappers and comprehensive program management. Elizabeth discusses the eight-module curriculum that covers everything from funding and marketing to legal roadblocks and public engagement—skills that most passionate trappers never learned but desperately need. The episode also touches on Elizabeth's creative outlets, including her book "Colony Tails: Lessons from the Alley," which captures the human side of community cat work through short stories that honor frontline caretakers. Whether you're running a small TNR group, working in municipal animal services, or considering starting a community cat program, this conversation provides both strategic insights and practical tools for professionalizing this critical work while maintaining its heart and compassion. Press play now for: Elizabeth's journey from individual cat rescue to systematic community cat programming Why community cat programs help people as much as cats in underserved communities The strategic approach to TNR: targeting whole colonies, neighborhoods, and zip codes rather than individual cats How the Community Cat Program Management Certification course fills the gap between trapping skills and program management Details on the eight-module curriculum covering funding, marketing, legal issues, data management, and public engagement The partnership between passionate educators with different strengths (methodical writer vs. dynamic speaker) Live weekly sessions, Q&A opportunities, and expert guest interviews from field veterans The Sue Black Memorial Scholarship honoring a dedicated community cat program manager TNR certification workshops and the movement toward professionalizing community cat work Elizabeth's book "Colony Tails: Lessons from the Alley" and upcoming series of standalone management guides Why effective TNR requires far more than "traps and tuna" to create lasting community impact Partnership opportunities for organizations wanting to support volunteer training Resources mentioned: University of the Pacific Community Cat Program Management Certification Course(https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/events/university-of-the-pacific-community-cats-program-management-certificate-program-853-372/) Community Cat Champions - Sue Black Memorial Scholarship (https://communitycatchampions.org/) Colony Tales: Lessons from the Alley on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Colony-Tails-Lessons-Elizabeth-Finch/dp/B0DGG2SMSS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3ODXF70MNCC5C&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.tONPSO-TUDZMhENuCmEHoOVqaKfXgEoTcOhTEH0gq7XUpOH3wONtfcdWlwWfOAaP.7RgU5T0GsT_FpRvxTxxIHNJNrWPTrd6nhZ83TwFwc2Q&dib_tag=se&keywords=colony+tails&qid=1756150798&sprefix=colony+tails,aps,98&sr=8-1) Community Cats Podcast TNR Certification Workshops (https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/events/) Community Cats Podcast Partnership Programs (https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/) Contact Elizabeth Finch: [email protected] Contact Stacy LeBaron: [email protected] Additional certifications: Drop Trap Certification, Trappers Tips & Tricks, Colony Caretaking Tips & Tricks(https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/conferences-and-events/) Sponsor Links: Maddie's Fund (https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/maddies623) Six Degrees of Cats (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/6-degrees-of-cats/id1669849217) Follow & Review We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts(https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-community-cats-podcast/id1125752101?mt=2). Select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then share a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast.

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• Scaling Spay/Neuter: How One Foundation Is Disrupting Access to Care, Featuring Cathy Bissell, Founder of the Bissell Pet Foundation

  "If you love cats, you should be concerned about trying to help bring those numbers down so animals don't suffer because this is why we do this. We don't want animals suffering, having unwanted litters of cats and having to have them suffer." This episode is sponsored-in-part by Maddie’s Fund and 6 Degrees of Cats. In this powerful episode, host Stacy LeBaron sits down with Cathy Bissell, founder of Bissell Pet Foundation, who has revolutionized animal welfare through innovative programs reaching over 6,000 shelters across 49 states. From her unexpected entry into animal welfare during Hurricane Katrina to creating the nation's largest funded adoption event, Cathy's journey demonstrates how strategic thinking and passionate commitment can create systemic change. Her foundation has impacted nearly one million pets since 2011, but it's her latest initiative that's truly disrupting the industry. Cathy shares the incredible success of her groundbreaking "Fix the Future" program, launched in 2023 to address the veterinary care access crisis. In just under 18 months, this free spay/neuter initiative has sterilized 138,000 animals across 27 states, with an astounding 86,963 of those being cats. Through a network of 385 high-volume, high-quality relief veterinarians, the program is tackling overpopulation at its source while keeping costs remarkably low at just $35 per surgery. Cathy discusses the challenges of scaling this model, the importance of treating every animal that comes through their doors, and why she believes this "disruptor program" is essential for breaking down cost barriers that prevent people from accessing veterinary care. Whether you're working in a small grassroots rescue or leading a major shelter, this episode provides invaluable insights into creating sustainable, scalable solutions that address root causes rather than just symptoms. Cathy's emphasis on collaboration, her honest discussion about learning from mistakes (including a powerful story about declawing), and her practical advice for getting started at any age will inspire listeners to think bigger about their impact and consider how they can contribute to solving the access to care crisis in their own communities. Press play now for: Cathy's unexpected journey from Hurricane Katrina volunteer to founding a major animal welfare foundation The evolution from disaster response to adoption events to addressing systemic access to care challenges Incredible statistics: 138,000 spay/neuter surgeries in 18 months with 86,963 cats across 27 states How the Fix the Future program operates with 385 relief veterinarians at just $35 per surgery The power of MASH-style clinics and why community cat advocates should consider creating their own Why Michigan serves as a prime example with 3,000 cats out of 4,000 total surgeries at their clinic The importance of spaying/neutering before adoption and addressing kittens under six months How veterinary school limitations (graduating with only 1-3 spay/neuter surgeries) impact private practice capacity Cathy's honest story about learning from the declawing controversy and how it changed her foundation's policies Practical advice for getting involved at any age and making a difference beyond just donating money The role of Empty the Shelters adoption events in supporting shelter operations nationwide Why every animal deserves vaccination and ear-tipping as part of comprehensive TNR programs Resources mentioned: Bissell Pet Foundation website (https://www.bissellpetfoundation.org/) Empty the Shelters adoption events (https://www.bissellpetfoundation.org/programs/empty-the-shelters/) Fix the Future spay/neuter initiative (https://www.bissellpetfoundation.org/programs/fix-the-future/) Mississippi State University College of Veterinary Medicine (https://www.vetmed.msstate.edu/) MSU shelter medicine program details (https://www.vetmed.msstate.edu/about/points-of-pride) United Spay Alliance website (https://www.unitedspayalliance.org/) United Spay Alliance wet lab training programs (https://www.unitedspayalliance.org/hqhvsn-wet-labs/) BISSELL Pet Foundation grant information (https://www.bissellpetfoundation.org/grant-information/) Operation Fix the Future clinics (https://www.bissellpetfoundation.org/operation-fix-the-future/) BISSELL Pet Foundation Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/bissellpets/) Sponsor Links: Maddie's Fund (https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/maddies623) Six Degrees of Cats (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/6-degrees-of-cats/id1669849217) Follow & Review We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts(https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-community-cats-podcast/id1125752101?mt=2). Select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then share a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast.

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• Municipal Shelter Innovation: No-Kill Success in Small-Town Mississippi, Featuring Glen Andrews, Director, Horn Lake Animal Shelter

  "I envision Horn Lake being the hub of North Mississippi when it comes to animal welfare. I want my animal shelter to be the place that people model their strategies after.” This episode is sponsored-in-part by Maddie’s Fund and the Rescue Cleaners and Disinfectants. In this episode, host Stacy LeBaron sits down with Glen Andrews, Director of the Horn Lake Animal Shelter in North Mississippi. With over two decades in animal welfare and experience in virtually every shelter role imaginable—from event coordinator to veterinary assistant to director—Glen brings a unique "Renaissance rescuer" perspective to municipal animal services. His journey from Manhattan's urban animal control to rural Mississippi's challenges offers valuable insights into adapting shelter practices across different regional cultures and community needs. Glen shares how he transformed a small, antiquated municipal shelter into a thriving no-kill facility while simultaneously doubling intake numbers. The conversation covers his innovative approaches to community engagement, including low-cost spay/neuter programs, pet food pantries, youth volunteer corps, and strategic community cat management. Glen discusses the importance of removing the enforcement stigma from municipal shelters and positioning them as community resources that help people keep their pets rather than judging pet owners in crisis. Whether you're working in a large urban shelter or a small rural facility, this episode provides actionable strategies for building community trust, implementing sustainable programs with limited resources, and achieving life-saving outcomes. Glen's emphasis on understanding local demographics, strategic partnerships, and the power of microchipping offers a roadmap for municipal shelters looking to modernize their approach and better serve both animals and the people who care about them. Press play now for: How Glen's diverse shelter experience prepared him to lead comprehensive reform at a small municipal facility The cultural differences in pet ownership between urban North and rural South, and how to adapt programming accordingly Strategies for removing the enforcement stigma from municipal shelters and building community trust Details on Horn Lake's innovative programs: low-cost spay/neuter, pet food pantry, and youth volunteer corps Glen's data-driven approach to community cats and achieving 100% more TNR surgeries than neighboring areas How to achieve no-kill status while doubling intake through strategic partnerships and enhanced marketing The game-changing impact of mandatory microchipping and achieving 20% above national average for return-to-owner rates Glen's vision for microchipping every animal in Horn Lake and creating a model for other communities Practical advice for small municipal shelters on accessing grants and proving community need The importance of municipal leadership support and how to work within government structures Resources mentioned: Horn Lake Animal Shelter Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/HornLakeAnimalShelter/) Horn Lake Animal Shelter website (https://www.hornlake.org/departments/AnimalShelter) Horn Lake Animal Shelter phone: (662) 393-5857 Horn Lake Animal Shelter Petfinder page (https://www.petfinder.com/member/us/ms/horn-lake/friends-of-horn-lake-animal-shelter-ms71/) Maddie's Fund website (https://www.maddiesfund.org/) Maddie's Pet Forum (https://forum.maddiesfund.org/home) Maddie's University education courses (https://university.maddiesfund.org/) Best Friends Animal Society website (https://bestfriends.org/) Community Cats Podcast website (https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/) Maddie's Fund grant programs (https://www.maddiesfund.org/) Sponsor Links: Maddie's Fund (https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/maddies623) Rescue Cleaners and Disinfectants (https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/virox) Follow & Review We’d love for you to follow us if you haven’t yet. Click that purple '+' in the top right corner of your Apple Podcasts app. We’d love it even more if you could drop a review or 5-star rating over on Apple Podcasts(https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-community-cats-podcast/id1125752101?mt=2). Select “Ratings and Reviews” and “Write a Review” then share a quick line with your favorite part of the episode. It only takes a second and it helps spread the word about the podcast.

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