The Dad Edge Podcast

Leadership isn't about position, title, or authority—it's about who you are on the inside and how you show up every day for the people who depend on you. In this episode, I sit down with Brent Pohlman, bestselling author of Leaders Look Within and the upcoming book Leading with Zest, for a powerful conversation about values-based leadership, faith, health, and having the courage to lead from the heart.   Brent shares lessons from 31 years of marriage, raising a faith-centered family, and building a thriving workplace culture rooted in people-first leadership. We dive into why leaders must define a strong "why," how physical health fuels emotional and relational leadership, and how to have hard, triggering conversations without destroying morale—at work or at home. If you're a husband, father, or man who wants to lead with clarity, conviction, and integrity, this episode will challenge you in the best way.     Timeline Summary [0:00] Why leadership applies to every man—especially husbands and fathers. [2:07] Introducing Brent Pohlman and his leadership philosophy. [2:29] 31 years of marriage and building a faith-centered family. [2:53] Brent's son serving communion to Pope Francis and the power of faith legacy. [3:20] Leading from the inside out instead of ego. [3:45] Why leaders must define a strong, unshakable "why." [4:43] Marriage, faith, and learning each other after decades together. [6:16] Converting to Catholicism and claiming faith as your own. [7:26] Reactive leadership versus values-based leadership. [9:07] Faith moments that shape identity and conviction. [11:01] Why leaders must look inward to understand values and motivation. [12:16] Second-generation leadership and stepping into your own identity. [14:28] Defining a personal leadership "why" that doesn't change weekly. [15:26] The importance of physical health for leadership readiness. [16:03] Daily workouts, awareness, and being prepared for pressure. [18:08] Being fully present with your wife and kids. [19:30] Leading at home the same way you lead at work. [20:17] Developing people instead of managing them. [21:03] Coaching versus training in leadership development. [22:49] How direct conversations prevent cultural breakdown. [23:59] Calling people forward without damaging morale. [26:02] Fighting to be effective instead of fighting to be right. [27:11] The power of using someone's name in hard conversations. [30:03] Why people just want to be heard. [33:06] Avoiding reactive cultures and emotional time bombs. [35:08] Asking "What do you really want?" in conflict resolution. [37:15] Introducing Brent's upcoming book Leading with Zest. [38:41] People, process, and technology—in that order. [39:10] Protecting imagination and creativity in a tech-driven world. [42:16] Putting faith into action through workplace culture. [45:09] Where to find Brent, his books, and daily reflections.     Five Key Takeaways Leadership starts on the inside. You must know your values, faith, and motivations before you can lead others well. A strong "why" stabilizes leadership. Without it, leaders become reactive and inconsistent. Physical health fuels leadership presence. Energy, discipline, and consistency matter in how you show up. Coaching builds leaders; training builds skills. Growth happens through direct, caring conversations. People-first leadership creates thriving cultures—at work, at home, and in communities.     Links & Resources MicroFactor (1st Phorm): https://1stphorm.com/products/micro-factor/?a_aid=dadedge Level-1 Protein (1st Phorm): https://1stphorm.com/products/level-1/?a_aid=dadedge Brent Pohlman — Leaders Look Within: https://a.co/d/aIPZqXo Brent Pohlman — Leading with Zest: https://a.co/d/78BUngL Brent Pohlman Website: https://ceoofyourheart.com Episode Show Notes & Resources: https://thedadedge.com/1424   Closing Remark If this episode challenged you to lead with more intention, health, and heart, please rate, review, follow, and share the podcast. Leadership isn't about perfection—it's about showing up aligned, grounded, and willing to grow.

We're kicking off a brand-new year with something many of you have asked for—the return of our live Q&A episodes. In this conversation, I'm joined once again by Uncle Joe as we answer real questions from men inside our community about parenting, connection with daughters, discipline, stoicism, faith, and leadership at home.   This episode goes deep. We talk about building trust with kids who feel distant, why saying "no" too often damages connection, how fathers can lead without demanding reciprocity, and the difference between white-knuckling life versus living from identity. If you're a dad who wants deeper relationships with your kids and clarity around leadership, faith, and emotional presence, this episode will challenge and ground you.   Timeline Summary [0:00] Welcoming listeners to the 11th year of The Dad Edge Podcast. [1:37] Reflection on longevity, gratitude, and why this work still matters. [1:59] Announcement: Roommates to Soulmates eight-week course starting January 14. [2:19] What men will learn in the Roommates to Soulmates marriage training. [2:42] RSVP details for the January 7 preview call. [3:07] Welcoming Uncle Joe back to the show. [3:39] Listener question about connecting with daughters at different developmental stages. [5:14] Joe shares his experience raising three daughters. [6:33] Loving kids without expecting emotional reciprocation. [7:16] Why trust—not control—is the foundation of fatherhood. [8:08] Changing the default answer from "no" to "yes." [9:19] Joe shares the powerful "father promise ring" moment with his daughter. [10:41] Why fathers must make covenants to their kids—not demand them. [12:26] Larry shares his struggle connecting with his youngest son. [13:26] Letting kids lead connection through their interests. [14:12] Hiking, martial arts, and intentional one-on-one time. [15:19] Creating unique rituals with each child. [16:03] Capturing small moments for deep emotional connection. [18:12] Invitation to join the Dad Edge Alliance for live support and brotherhood. [19:51] Listener question about stoicism and discipline. [21:27] Larry explains why he moved away from stoicism. [22:29] Joe breaks down the appeal—and danger—of half-truths in stoicism. [24:07] White-knuckling life vs. living from identity. [25:00] Faith, identity, and emotional regulation. [27:28] Comparing stoicism with surrender and relationship-based leadership. [29:05] Psalm 23 and why dependence beats self-mastery. [31:30] Filtering wisdom through Scripture and lived experience. [34:41] How suffering builds empathy and leadership capacity. [35:19] Final thoughts, gratitude, and where to find resources.     Five Key Takeaways Connection with kids is built through trust, consistency, and presence—not control.  Fathers must lead relationships without demanding emotional repayment.  White-knuckling discipline leads to exhaustion; identity-based leadership leads to peace.  Kids feel deeply seen when dads meet them inside their interests.  True strength comes from surrender, faith, and relational grounding—not self-reliance alone.      Links & Resources Dad Edge Mastermind & Alliance: https://thedadedge.com/mastermind Roommates to Soulmates Course: https://thedadedge.com/soulmates Episode Show Notes & Resources: https://thedadedge.com/1423     Closing Remark   If this episode encouraged you, challenged your thinking, or gave you practical tools to lead better at home, please rate, review, follow, and share the podcast. These conversations matter—and your support helps us reach more men who are committed to becoming better fathers, husbands, and leaders.

To kick off 2026, I sit down with Dr. Paul Leonardi, author of the bestselling book Digital Exhaustion, for a conversation that felt incredibly timely—and personal. If you've been feeling distracted, mentally drained, short-tempered, or like your family is getting the leftovers of your energy, this episode puts clear language around what's happening inside your brain.   We dive deep into how constant app switching, nonstop notifications, and digital overload are quietly exhausting our attention, memory, marriages, and relationships with our kids. Paul breaks down the science behind digital exhaustion in a practical, grounded way, and I share a powerful moment when my 12-year-old voluntarily handed back his phone because he didn't like how it made him feel. This episode isn't about rejecting technology—it's about learning how to use it without letting it use us.     Timeline Summary: [0:00] Introduction [1:02] Welcoming listeners to 2026 and the 11th year of The Dad Edge Podcast. [1:40] Introducing Dr. Paul Leonardi and the concept of digital exhaustion. [2:22] How digital overload impacts attention, memory, marriage, and family life. [3:05] Parenting in a world our brains were never designed for. [4:12] Raising kids with devices and navigating unfamiliar territory. [6:07] Independence, social media, and emotional complexity in today's kids. [7:35] How online trends shape kids' identity and self-image. [9:58] What's actually happening in the brain during prolonged digital use. [11:16] The hidden "taxes" we pay for constant connectivity. [12:26] Driver #1: attention and constant context switching. [13:31] Driver #2: inference and filling in the blanks online. [15:26] Driver #3: amplified emotions—both positive and negative. [16:31] Why multitasking burns massive mental energy. [17:20] The impact of digital overload on memory and mental residue. [18:41] Outsourcing memory to devices and what it costs us. [21:15] When kids are actually ready for devices—and when they're not. [23:42] Why screen time isn't the real issue—interruptions and content are. [26:35] The emotional cost of likes, validation, and online comparison. [28:39] Larry shares the story of his son giving up his phone voluntarily. [31:11] Why kids struggle to articulate digital overwhelm. [32:06] The Facebook outage study and the surprising relief people felt. [35:10] Introducing the Roommates to Soulmates live course. [37:54] Digital exhaustion inside marriage and miscommunication over text. [38:58] "Make the match" — choosing the right communication medium. [43:12] "Be here, not elsewhere" and the power of undistracted presence. [46:09] How distraction has become socially normalized. [49:21] Why work interruptions at home send the wrong message. [51:39] Modeling priorities for kids through availability and presence. [56:21] Where to find Paul, his book, and additional resources.     Five Key Takeaways Digital exhaustion comes from attention switching, inference-making, and emotional overload, not just screen time alone. Multitasking is a myth—the brain burns massive energy switching contexts, leaving us mentally drained. Kids often feel overwhelmed by devices before they can explain it, which shows up as stress or behavior changes. Choosing the right communication tool matters, especially in marriage and parenting. Presence beats duration—ten fully focused minutes matter more than hours of distracted time.     Links & Resources Paul Leonardi — Digital Exhaustion Book: https://paulleonardi.com/digital-exhaustion-book/ Paul Leonardi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-leonardi-45b67321/ Dad Edge Mastermind & Alliance: https://thedadedge.com/mastermind Roommates to Soulmates Course: https://thedadedge.com/soulmates Episode Show Notes & Resources: https://thedadedge.com/1422     Closing Remark If this episode made you rethink how you're using your phone, your attention, or your presence at home, please rate, review, follow, and share the podcast. The way we show up—focused, intentional, and available—shapes not just our kids' childhoods, but the adults they become.

In the final episode of 2025, I take time to reflect, express deep gratitude, and share what's coming next for The Dad Edge as we head into 2026. This episode is about honoring what this community has built together over the past ten years, celebrating the wins, and casting a clear vision for what's ahead for men who want to lead their families with intention.   I walk you through several major announcements—from the return of Wednesday Q&A with Uncle Joe, to our brand-new Dad Edge Alliance membership platform, upcoming marriage and health initiatives, and powerful in-person experiences like Men's Forge. This episode is both a thank-you and a rallying cry for men who are ready to step into the next year with clarity, purpose, and brotherhood.     Timeline Summary: [0:00] Welcoming listeners and reflecting on the final episode of 2025. [1:23] Celebrating 10 full years of podcasting and the growth of The Dad Edge. [1:41] Gratitude for listeners, downloads, and being ranked #1 again. [2:22] Why fatherhood, marriage, and family are the most important work we do. [2:56] A heartfelt thank-you to the community for showing up all year. [3:13] Announcement: Wednesday Q&A episodes return with Uncle Joe in 2026. [3:49] How to submit your questions for the Q&A episodes via email. [4:06] Introducing the brand-new Dad Edge Alliance membership site. [4:49] Why moving away from Facebook, Slack, and WhatsApp changed everything. [5:24] Weekly call teams and global time-zone support for members. [5:47] January focus inside the Alliance: marriage, parenting, vitality, and money. [6:26] February marriage training focused on intimacy, passion, and connection. [6:44] Partnership with 1st Phorm and upcoming health initiatives. [7:18] Announcement of the 8-week transformation challenge starting February 1. [7:55] Coaching, accountability, and community inside the challenge. [8:54] Information call for the Roommates to Soulmates live course. [9:14] What the Roommates to Soulmates course will teach men about marriage. [10:02] Larry shares his personal experience with marriage disconnection. [10:39] Men's Forge announcement with Ryan Michler and Order of Man. [11:01] Event dates, speakers, and why nearly everyone returned from last year. [11:56] "Bring a Brother" and "Bring a Son" ticket options. [12:12] Why exposing teenage sons to intentional masculinity matters. [13:10] Announcing the December Dad Edge 1st Phorm Man of the Month. [13:55] Recognizing Shay Chase for leadership and health coaching impact. [14:39] Directing listeners to the full show notes and resources. [15:01] Final thank-you and encouragement heading into 2026.     Five Key Takeaways: Intentional fatherhood creates generational impact, and this community exists to raise the standard for men.  Brotherhood and accountability matter, especially when men are navigating marriage, parenting, health, and finances.  Marriage requires skill-building and leadership, not passive hope that things will improve.  Physical health fuels leadership at home, and structured challenges create momentum and consistency.  The next year can look different if men commit to standards, community, and intentional action.      Links & Resources Dad Edge Alliance Membership: http://thedadedge.com/alliance Roommates to Soulmates Course: https://thedadedge.com/soulmates 1st Phorm Partnership: https://1stphorm.com/dadedge Episode Show Notes & Resources: https://thedadedge.com/1421 https://themensforge.com/   Closing Remark Gentlemen, thank you for an incredible 2025. Thank you for showing up, doing the work, and choosing to lead your families with intention. My hope is that we bring even more men to this table in 2026 so we can continue to change lives, marriages, and families for the better. Go out and live legendary.

What do you do when life changes in ways you didn't choose—and didn't see coming? In this deeply emotional and intellectually grounding conversation, I sit down with Dr. Maya Shankar, cognitive scientist, former White House advisor, and host of the podcast A Slight Change of Plans, to talk about change, identity, grief, and uncertainty.   Maya shares her powerful personal story of being accepted into Juilliard at a young age, only to have her violin career abruptly end due to a devastating injury. From there, we explore how unexpected change threatens our identity, why the human brain craves certainty, and how men, husbands, and fathers can navigate seasons where the future they imagined suddenly disappears. This conversation hit me personally as I opened up about my son preparing to leave for college, and Maya offers language, tools, and clarity for anyone navigating major life transitions.     Timeline Summary: [0:00] What happens when life changes and you don't get a vote. [1:28] Introducing Dr. Maya Shankar and the theme of unexpected change. [2:10] Being accepted into Juilliard at age nine and pursuing music at the highest level. [3:05] A career-ending violin injury and the grief that followed. [4:05] How loss threatens not just what we do—but who we are. [7:44] Learning violin by ear and developing passion without perfection. [9:03] A mother's fearlessness and the power of bold action. [11:06] Cold emailing, courage, and creating unexpected opportunities. [13:39] Being bullied as a child and finding safety in family and music. [15:16] Larry reflects on marriage drift and identity shifts. [18:06] Pivoting from academia to public policy and working at the White House. [21:51] The power of defaults and how behavioral science changed public outcomes. [25:17] Why uncertainty is harder on the brain than certainty—even bad certainty. [27:05] The illusion of control and how change shatters it. [27:31] Anchoring identity to why you do things, not just what you do. [29:45] Navigating infertility, loss, and redefining self-worth. [33:11] Why we resist change even when it's necessary for growth. [36:00] Marriage, evolution, and the "end of history illusion." [39:32] How hardship can lead to unexpected personal growth. [45:43] Gratitude as a tool for identity resilience. [48:25] Helping kids navigate change while managing your own emotions. [50:28] The grief of kids leaving home—even when it's a good thing. [54:26] Why we are more resilient than we think. [56:15] The importance of community during seasons of change. [59:19] Maya shares her book, podcast, and where to connect.     Five Key Takeaways Change threatens identity as much as circumstance, which is why it feels so destabilizing.  The brain prefers certainty—even negative certainty—over uncertainty, making transitions especially stressful.  Anchoring identity to your values and motivations creates resilience when roles and plans fall away.  We underestimate our ability to adapt and overestimate how painful change will be long-term.  Connection, community, and self-reflection are essential tools for navigating major life transitions.      Links & Resources Dr. Maya Shankar's Book: https://a.co/d/3u87zps Dr. Maya Shankar on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drmayashankar/?hl=en Roommates to Soulmates Course: https://thedadedge.com/soulmates Episode Show Notes & Resources: https://thedadedge.com/1420     Closing Remark If this episode gave you language for a season of change you're navigating right now, please rate, review, follow, and share the podcast. You're not alone in the uncertainty—and you're far more resilient than you think.