Using conversation to navigate uncertainty with Margaret Heffernan
Award-winning author and business executive Margaret Heffernan has written extensively about uncertainty. Her book Uncharted: How to map the future became an instant bestseller and featured on Bloomberg’s Best Books of 2021 list. Her most recent book Embracing Uncertainty: How writers, musicians and artists thrive in an unpredictable world outlines how creatives use ambiguity to stimulate innovation and novel ideas.
In this episode, Jen, Dom and Cat chat with Margaret to her views on the power of conversation. In ambiguous and chaotic work landscapes, convening group discussions to hear diverse perspectives and harness collective intelligence is a new leadership meta-skill.
About Margaret Heffernan
Dr. Margaret Heffernan produced programmes for the BBC for 13 years. She then moved to the US where she spearheaded multimedia productions for Intuit, The Learning Company and Standard&Poors. She was Chief Executive of InfoMation Corporation, ZineZone Corporation and then iCast Corporation, was named one of the “Top 25” by Streaming Media magazine and one of the “Top 100 Media Executives” by The Hollywood Reporter.
The author of six books, Margaret’s third book, Willful Blindness : Why We Ignore the Obvious at our Peril was named one of the most important business books of the decade by the Financial Times. In 2015, she was awarded the Transmission Prize for A Bigger Prize: Why Competition isn’t Everything and How We Do Better, described as “meticulously researched…engagingly written…universally relevant and hard to fault.” Her TED talks have been seen by over 13 million people and in 2015 TED published Beyond Measure: The Big Impact of Small Changes. In 2020, she published Uncharted: How to map the future, which quickly became a bestseller and was nominated for the Financial Times Best Business Book award, was one of Bloomberg’s Best Books of 2021 and was chosen as the “Medium Best of the Best” business book. 2025 saw the publication of Embracing Uncertainty: How Writers, Musicians and Artists Thrive in an Unpredictable World, described as ‘a timely, insightful book….Heffernan highlights what it takes to excel in turbulent times.’
In 2024, she was inducted into the Thinkers50 Hall of Fame, in recognition of her lasting impact on management thinking. She is a Professor of Practice at the University of Bath, Lead Faculty for the Forward Institute’s Responsible Leadership Programme and, through Merryck & Co., mentors CEOs and senior executives of major global organizations. She chairs the board of DACS and is a parish councillor.
Find Margaret on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaret-heffernan-ab5205/
Margaret’s website: https://www.mheffernan.com/
Margaret on Substack: https://heffernanm.substack.com/
Margaret’s TED talks:
https://www.ted.com/talks/margaret_heffernan_the_human_skills_we_need_in_an_unpredictable_world
https://www.ted.com/talks/margaret_heffernan_the_dangers_of_willful_blindness
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Rethinking leadership for the future of work with Louise Mowbray
The range of challenges confronting businesses today are constant, complex and deeply entangled. There is no rule book for this level of ambiguity and business leaders must grapple with the unknown on a daily basis. This requires an entirely different mindset and the ability to make sense of and interpret novel situations as they arise.
In this episode, Jen, Dom and Cat chat with coach and futurist Louise Mowbray about the rapidly evolving future of work and the skills required to successfully navigate it. Access to trusted networks of individuals with alternative viewpoints is a must for those organisations looking to successfully futureproof and survive the coming years.
Communication, connection and community have never been more needed in business today.
About Louise Mowbray
Louise is the Founder of Mowbray by Design, the Future-Focused Conscious Leadership Consultancy. She specialises in The Future of Work and Leadership, working with clients across the sectors at the intersection of futures, technology, innovation, transformation and purpose-driven business.
Louise is a leadership advisor, coach, strategist and futurist, the author of Relevant: Future-Focused Leadership, and a co-author of Uncertainty: Making Sense of the World for Better, Bolder Outcomes. She is a sought-after keynote speaker, an occasional visiting lecturer for business schools and a regular guest on podcasts, panel discussions and live events.
In earlier career chapters, Louise worked for listed organisations in the investment banking, technology and executive search sectors, co-founded an executive search firm and was MD MENA for a British luxury lifestyle company. She has lived and worked in the UK, the UAE and South Africa and works with clients around the world.
Find Louise on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisemowbray
Mowbray by Design: https://mowbraybydesign.com
Relevant: Future-Focused Leadership: https://amzn.eu/d/e677nfv
Relevant Substack: https://louisemowbray.substack.com
Key blogs
Sensemaking: Making Sense of Non Sense:
https://louisemowbray.substack.com/p/sensemaking-making-sense-of-non-sense
The Information Overload:
https://louisemowbray.substack.com/p/the-information-overload
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Nurturing inclusive work cultures with Amraze Khan
As economic, societal and environmental conditions deteriorate, social tensions are escalating. Some politicians use fear to fuel their own extreme agendas and it’s increasingly popular to blame others for the ills of the world. Nationalism and discrimination are at their worst in decades. This has significant negative impact on workplace cohesion as many feel increasingly marginalised.
Yet in contrast, scientific research shows the extent to which successful innovation – much needed in most organisations today – comes from diversity of thought. And different perspectives come, of course, from a rich diversity of lived experience. In this episode, Amraze Khan shares his experience of working in EDI and examines the increasingly urgent need for inclusion at work.
Amraze Khan (He/Him)
Amraze is the Head of EDI at Manchester Metropolitan University, where he leads the vision, supporting the University to become intentionally inclusive for its 4,500 staff members and around 40,000 students.
He has worked in EDI for nearly a decade, with experience in senior leadership roles across various industries comprising of the NHS, within Charities and Local Government. Prior to this, Amraze worked in senior communication roles in the NHS and Civil Service.
Outside of work, Amraze is a proud Yorkshireman, a carer, father to two cats, a Trustee at Rochdale Mind, an avid blogger, and podcaster.
Find Amraze on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amraze-khan-mcipd-miepd-94a1a56b/
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Knowledge sharing in the age of AI with Zoe Colosimo
With a significant proportion of the UK already struggling to access basic online tools and services, digital accessibility is a key issue too few business or political leaders are addressing. Without urgent attention to educate and inform, already disadvantaged and vulnerable people and communities will continue to fall behind and miss out on the benefits AI has to offer, not least in addressing social and societal inequality.
In this episode, Jen, Dom and Cat chat with Zoe Colosimo, COO of award-winning giving platform Neighbourly. They discuss what socially-minded organisations can do to address AI inequality and the opportunity for internal communication to help make a difference.
About Zoe Colosimo
Zoe is a founding member and the Chief Operating Officer at Neighbourly, an organisation dedicated to helping companies bring their brand purpose to life. Since its launch in 2014, Neighbourly has enabled businesses to make meaningful contributions to local communities through volunteer time, grants, and surplus products and built a network of over 45,000 local causes and 9000+ company offices and branches, creating nearly £1 billion in social value across the UK and Ireland.
Zoe’s motivation is rooted in the belief that sustainable communities are built through local relationships, and good corporate citizenship is essential to any company’s success.
Find Zoe on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoecolosimo/
Neighbourly website: https://www.neighbourly.com/
Ai123 resource hub: https://hub.neighbourly.com/ai123-resource-hub
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Exploring the future of leadership communication with Professor John Amaechi OBE
As multiple factors converge to create accelerating operating complexity and ambiguity for most organisations, leadership is under the microscope like never before. For his latest book, organisational psychologist and founder of APS Intelligence John Amaechi OBE explored a range of leadership techniques and found them to be eminently teachable skills, when thoughtfulness, integrity and effort are applied.
Amongst the most crucial skills identified for improved organisational culture and performance are listening and verbal communication.
Jen and Cat welcome John to this episode to examine the art of leadership communication and what it must now entail if organisations are to successfully navigate the ongoing disruption of the modern age.
Professor John Amaechi OBE: A Catalyst for Leadership Transformation
John Amaechi OBE is a world-renowned organisational psychologist, bestselling author, and Professor of Leadership at the University of Exeter Business School. As the founder of APS Intelligence Ltd., John leads a global team that transforms leaders and cultures by combining cutting-edge behavioural science with psychological insight. His bespoke programmes aren’t about quick fixes—they drive sustainable growth, ethical leadership, and organisational well-being.
From his roots in Stockport, near Manchester, to becoming the first Briton to play professional basketball in the NBA, John’s personal journey exemplifies resilience and ambition. Inspired by his mother’s words—“The most unlikely of people in the most improbable of circumstances can become extraordinary”—John has spent his career challenging expectations and helping others unlock their potential.
An adviser to FTSE 100 boards, a LinkedIn Top Voice, and the recipient of the Sport Industry Integrity and Impact Award, John is recognised as one of the most influential voices in leadership and organisational culture. His bestselling book, The Promises of Giants, inspires leaders worldwide to embrace authenticity, drive ethical change, and create lasting legacies.
Find John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amaechi/
APS Intelligence website: https://www.apsintel.com/
The Future of Internal Communication podcast is a series commissioned by The Institute of Internal Communication.
Organisations today face widespread and continuous disruption. The way communication takes place within and across teams, departments and business units is more critical than ever.
The podcast hosts subject matter experts from within and outside internal communication, each sharing their insights on the future of work and the role of communication as an essential driver of workplace trust, connection, culture, innovation, resilience and performance.
Hosts Jennifer Sproul, Dominic Walters and Cat Barnard explore opportunity for internal communicators. In increasingly digital, data driven, distributed and on-demand work landscapes, their conversations with thought-leaders examine the human side of work.
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