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  • The strategy behind Publicis Groupe's landmark year — with Niel Bornman
    Last week, The Media Leader hosted its flagship annual event in London, The Future of Media, and for this week’s episode of the podcast, the team wanted to bottle one of the headline interviews from the conference.On Tuesday, host Jack Benjamin sat down with Niel Bornman, CEO of Publicis Media Connected UK.Publicis is having a big year – it is, by some margin, the strongest-growing of the major global media holding groups, to the point where its competitors are generally looking to emulate its business model.Bornman unpacked the moves the company has made in recent years to set it up for post-pandemic growth, and weighed whether its data-driven model is pushing advertisers more toward performance media.The pair also spoke about the future of the agency model, debated concerns around principal media, and discussed what needs to change to improve Publicis Groupe’s declining share price.Highlights:2:14: How Publicis' data-led model put it in a good post-pandemic position.5:08: Can Publicis maintain its USP as competitors look to emulate its business model?7:18: Are we over-investing in performance marketing?10:45: Boosting share price growth13:15: The future of the agency model in an era of AI19:00: Principal media: yay or nay?Related articles:‘We are in a crisis’: Advertising: Who Cares? suggests media business models must changeThe great media agency shake-upWho gains most from the agency shift to strategic partnerships with clients?Can principal media be good, actually?Podcast: What did Publicis get for $4.4bn? Interview with Epsilon UK MD Elliott Clayton---Thanks to our production partners Trisonic for editing this episode.--> Discover how Trisonic can elevate your brand and expand your business by connecting with your ideal audienceVisit The Media Leader for the most authoritative news analysis and comment on what's happening in commercial media.LinkedIn: The Media LeaderYouTube: The Media Leader
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  • How Roku is piecing a fragmented TV landscape back together — with Tom Price
    This episode was produced in partnership with Roku.It's been a busy past few months for Roku: in the US, it launched a new low-cost subscription service, Howdy, which aims to be supplementary to the likes of Netflix and Disney+; in the UK, Roku launched 40 FAST channels on its platform.The company has emerged as a key partner for other entertainment partners to increase the reach and viewability of their content, a goal that has become increasingly important in a fragmented TV landscape.Tom Price is the content distribution director at Roku. He joins host Jack Benjamin to discuss the latest developments at Roku, what makes the UK TV market unique, and how the company has developed a toolkit of advertising opportunities for its content partners.This is part one of a two-part conversation — be on the lookout later in the year for a follow-up interview with Roku's EMEA ad sales director Mike Shaw.Highlights:3:11: Roku's UK positioning: the pace of change, growth opportunities, FAST strategy.10:03: Cutting through the noise of a crowded streaming market.14:58: Howdy: Roku's US ad-free SVOD option.17:48: How Roku works with its content partners.25:07: What's next? Streaming market expansion and consolidation, FAST growth, new features.Related articles:Roku launches FAST channels in UK marketHowdy confirms Roku’s growing interest in subscription streamingRoku eyes app bundling opportunity as next-gen aggregator---Thanks to our production partners Trisonic for editing this episode.--> Discover how Trisonic can elevate your brand and expand your business by connecting with your ideal audienceVisit The Media Leader for the most authoritative news analysis and comment on what's happening in commercial media.LinkedIn: The Media LeaderYouTube: The Media Leader
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  • Why there is a 'human premium' in consumer research — with IPG Mediabrands' Michael Brown
    At the heart of every media plan is the need to understand what a consumer wants; wants from your brand, your product, how they want to be spoken to and through what touchpoints.Michael Brown is the UK and EMEA head of research and insight, and a senior managing partner, at IPG Mediabrands.He joined host Jack Benjamin to discuss how his craft of both qualitative and quantitive consumer research is adapting to meet changing needs of CMOs, and how he is integrating AI into his work practice.Brown believes wholeheartedly that the human element is at the core of consumer insights, and he explains why it’s important for media companies and brands to continue taking that into account.As part of the conversation, the pair also spoke about key insights trends, including the seeping of politics into social listening online, and what it means for brands who have demonstrated care (or lack thereof) to diversity, equity and inclusion efforts.In addition, Brown addressed how he and his team are handling any uncertainty over Omnicom’s forthcoming acquisition of IPG.Highlights:3:14: How demand for research and consumer insight is changing, and the crisis of "information overload" in the age of AI.11:34: Why true insight and storytelling require a "human premium".16:41: How do CMOs take on research?20:44: What's trending right now? Social listening, Reddit, and political controversy.28:24: Are brands shying away from responsible media investment and diversity, equity and inclusion?33:52: Reactions to Omnicom's acquisition of IPG.37:47: Is the social culture of adland changing?Related articles:The ad gap: Why marketers are falling behind consumers, and how to catch up Consumers seeking comfort online more likely to view advertising positivelyUS FTC approves Omnicom-IPG merger on condition it does not make ad decisions based on ‘political or ideological viewpoints’---Thanks to our production partners Trisonic for editing this episode.--> Discover how Trisonic can elevate your brand and expand your business by connecting with your ideal audienceVisit The Media Leader for the most authoritative news analysis and comment on what's happening in commercial media. LinkedIn: The Media LeaderYouTube: The Media Leader
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  • Platforms' teen safety efforts amount to 'broken promises' — with Andy Burrows and Harriet Kingaby
    This year, the Molly Rose Foundation, the charity founded in the memory of Molly Russell, in partnership with online safety researchers, has released a number of studies around the efficacy of social media platforms’ online safety efforts.In August, it found that, despite platforms’ promises to get better on tackling the issue of child safety, the likes of TikTok and Instagram are still bombarding young users with a quote unquote “tsunami of harmful content” via their recommendation algorithms.Weeks later, another report found that most of Meta's child safety tools, including and especially its Teen Accounts feature, are apparently ineffective.Andy Burrows is the CEO of the Molly Rose Foundation. Joined by the Conscious Advertising Network's Harriet Kingaby and host Jack Benjamin, he explained the severity of the harms facing children on social platforms, and why their efforts to ameliorate them have been, in his words, "performative".After the recording of this episode, the Foundation released a third piece of research that found half of girls aged 13-17 saw high-risk suicide, self-harm, depression or eating disorder content in the week shortly prior to the Online Safety Act taking effect this summer.Responding to the MRF's research on its Teen Accounts, a Meta spokesperson said the report "repeatedly misrepresents our efforts to empower parents and protect teens, misstating how our safety tools work and how millions of parents and teens are using them today."Teen Accounts lead the industry because they provide automatic safety protections and straightforward parental controls. The reality is teens who were placed into these protections saw less sensitive content, experienced less unwanted contact, and spent less time on Instagram at night. Parents also have robust tools at their fingertips, from limiting usage to monitoring interactions. We'll continue improving our tools, and we welcome constructive feedback — but this report is not that."Burrows and Kingaby also discussed why advertisers haven’t yet been moved to apply business pressure on platforms in response, and whether regulation is plausible.Said Burrows: "This is a commercial decision, and children are paying the price."Highlights:2:07: Toplines of the MRF's research and how advertisers have reacted13:51: Malice, ignorance, or incompetence?17:01: Is anyone tackling child safety responsibly? Issues of transparency and trust and safety investment23:16: AI chatbots and child safety31:33: Is regulation plausible right now?37:17: How should parents navigate the online world on behalf of their kids?Related articles:Molly Russell charity CEO: Social media’s user safety efforts have been ‘performative’Why planners are investing so heavily in Meta, despite attention metricsUS TikTok sale brings uncertainty for creators amid free speech chillMeta launches subscription option to allow UK users to avoid ads---Thanks to our production partners Trisonic for editing this episode.--> Discover how Trisonic can elevate your brand and expand your business by connecting with your ideal audienceVisit The Media Leader for the most authoritative news analysis and comment on what's happening in commercial media. LinkedIn: The Media LeaderYouTube: The Media Leader
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  • How to deliver on boardroom promises — with Boots, Havas, Kinesso and MiQ
    It's one thing to get your CFO's attention and a marketing budget approved. It's another to deploy that investment in a way that builds your brand and delivers on boardroom promises.In a break from our typical interview format, The Media Leader team wanted to bring you one further discussion held at last month's Future of Media Manchester event.To close the day, The Media Leader's content director James Longhurst hosted a panel on the challenges clients and agencies face throughout the year as they seek to meet and exceed boardroom expectations.How do you optimise for business KPIs? How do you balance short-term demands with long-term brand building when every pound spent is being scrutinised? How do you build the case for bigger media budgets during a business downturn?All these questions and more were tackled by: Neil Jones, head of performance media at Boots UK; Laura Kell, chief data and product officer at Havas Media Network UK; Stu Lunn, group managing director at Kinesso; and Rob Linton, managing director, regions at MiQ.The discussion will continue next month, when The Future of Media returns 4-5 November in London. Register here to attend.Highlights:2:16: The start of the budgeting year — how to make the CFO see marketing as an investment8:05: Why AI is being used to drive cost savings21:57: Balancing short-term KPIs and long-term needs34:45: How do you know you've kept your promises to the boardroom?Related articles:How brands can truly ensure their CEO, CFO and CMO work togetherHow to bridge the CEO-CMO gap? Marketers must take an ‘investor mindset’, McKinsey advisesAd industry positioned as key sector for driving economic growth---Visit The Media Leader for the most authoritative news analysis and comment on what's happening in commercial media. LinkedIn: The Media LeaderYouTube: The Media Leader
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The Media Leader is the leading source of analysis, data, opinion and trends in commercial media and advertising.Hosted by senior reporter Jack Benjamin, we speak to senior industry leaders and rising stars about the key challenges media faces as part of our mission to stand up for courage, inclusion and excellence in media.Find out more at uk.themedialeader.com and subscribe to our daily newsletter.
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