The Media Leader Podcast

The BBC is at a critical moment as it looks to negotiate with the government over the renewal of its charter.
This month, it published its response to the government’s consultation in which it highlighted the quote “need for radical reforms to its independence”.
Preserving the status quo, the Corporation argued, will quote “not be enough to deliver a BBC that remains recognisable to audiences nor brings benefits to UK society and beyond.”
Chiefly, the current funding model quote “cannot maintain the BBC’s public service mission for the future”, they argued.
The Corporation is indeed facing a number of headwinds: it is losing an estimated £1bn pounds per year in potential license fee revenue as people evade required payments or forego TV ownership.
A lack of funding has necessitated controversial cuts in recent years to a number of BBC services, most notably the World Service, which has seen a 21% drop in budget since 2021.
It all comes as the Beeb is looking to hire a replacement for outgoing director-general Tim Davie. The aptly-named Matt Brittin, who led Google’s EMEA business for a decade, has been tightly linked to the opening.
Amid it all, The Media Leader hosted the 15th annual Connected TV World Summit in London last week to discuss the future of TV business and TV technology.
At the event, Kerensa Samanidis, the general manager of BBC iPlayer, sat down with Jack Benjamin to discuss the future of iPlayer.
The pair spoke about the challenges faced by the BBC as it seeks to compete with global streaming giants, whether the BBC would look to partner with other public-service broadcasters on distribution, and the importance of producing distinctly British content for British audiences.
Highlights:
1:57: Will iPlayer open up to other public-service broadcasters?
4:03: How iPlayer matches up to global streaming giants by being "all things to all people"
9:10: Remaining prominent
11:11: Considering distribution partnerships: Netflix, YouTube, and cannibalisation concerns
16:23: How the BBC's range extends beyond entertainment and drama
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Why advertisers need a strong BBC more than ever
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Digital assets are have for several years been the main growth drivers for most media owners. This is as true of TV – ITV just announced it saw 10% growth in digital revenues compared to flat overall revenue growth – as it is in publishing, as seen in the latest consumer ABC figures, as it is OOH, as it is in, of course, social media and search.
So it was little surprise that, according to IAB UK’s latest digital adspend report, in 2025 the UK’s digital ad market grew 10% to £40.5bn pounds. It’s a staggering number, especially when you consider that AA/Warc estimated the total UK ad market reached £46.9bn pounds last year.
Adspend on social media grew 21% year on year to £11.5bn, even as industry leaders at both agencies and competing media owners made the case to "turn down the toxic" by divesting from social and reinvesting in more trusted media channels.
Elizabeth Lane is the head of insight at IAB UK. She sat down with host Jack Benjamin her to unpack the latest adspend report, and why video in particular was a driving force for digital growth last year.
The duo also discussed how AI is changing search to the detriment of publishers, what to watch out for in retail media, and why gaming and digital OOH also saw double-digit growth in 2025.
Highlights:
1:21: Toplines from IAB UK's 2025 Digital Adspend Report
3:41: Social's pivot to video helps explain its 20% growth rate
13:39: Search, retail media and gaming: disruption and missed opportunities
24:06: How AI could change digital investment
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Reddit looks to scale through search, performance and insight
Why audio is embracing video — with News Broadcasting’s Dave Wilcox and Russell Pedrick
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In February, the Institute for Practitioners in Advertising (IPA) released its latest Agency Census. The findings showed an agency market in contraction: employment at creative agencies fell 14.3% last year – and that’s before Omnicom completed its acquisition of IPG and subsequently announced it would cut thousands more jobs globally.
New hiring dropped over 40%, with young people especially finding careers in media and advertising hard to break into, let alone remain in.
However, the Census also registered continued progress in gender representation and ethnic diversity at agencies, even if pay gaps persist and geographical diversity is lacking.
Lianree Robinson is the campaigning chair for Women in Advertising & Communications Leadership (WACL). She also works as the CEO of The Marketing Academy Foundation and as a mentor for Who’s Your Momma London.
If that wasn’t enough to keep Robinson busy, she’s also begun writing a monthly column for us at The Media Leader.
Robinson joins host Jack Benjamin to discuss the findings of the IPA Agency Census, and provide a sense check of the progress the media and advertising industries have made with regard to gender and ethnicity inclusion.
Highlights:
5:38: IPA Agency Census toplines
7:16: What has caused the creative agency labour market contraction?
10:20: Challenges faced by under-25s employees
19:24: Progress, but "relatively slow progress", on gender representation and ethnic diversity
24:43: Persistent gender and ethnic pay gaps
27:59: WACL's key priorities
31:33: Geographical diversity needed
Related articles:
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I didn’t take the ‘traditional’ route into media. That’s exactly why it worked
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In January, an anonymous group of senior leaders at creative, media and adtech agencies released a memo warning that the industry is failing in its moral and civic duties to society.
The memo argued that without an interruption to the status quo, advertising will “be a critical enabler to tech platforms that stoke hatred and division, facilitate hate groups to monetise their content at a time of increasing division in this country and many others, support the social license of the fossil fuel industry and provide broader greenwashing and social-washing services to industries that are under public scrutiny, and roll over in the face of anti-DEI rhetoric and desert those individuals, teams and communities that our industry has made commitments to.”
It also argued that British business interests are losing independence to US political interests, that working groups have failed to drive internal change, and that the presence of Big Tech companies at industry-wide events and initiatives has stymied attempts at progress.
The memo caused a stir, particularly given its timing just days ahead of the annual LEAD conference convened much of media and advertising's top brass to discuss the importance of trust.
Its authors were criticised for remaining anonymous, but they nevertheless succeeded in sparking a conversation and renewed interest in key ethical issues that have arguably been suppressed since Trump’s re-election as US president in late 2024.
Ned Younger is the director of Inside Track, the non-profit that was responsible for convening these anonymous individuals and facilitating their production of the memo.
He sat down with The Media Leader earlier this month to discuss his takeaways from the group, and whether he thinks they will drive real change in the advertising industry.
Highlights:
2:04: What is Inside Track and how did it convene this anonymous group?
6:41: Main concerns expressed by the group
10:27: Future direction, calls to action, and the need for better forums of conversation
15:16: Why remain anonymous?
22:58: The risk of insufficient progress
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Act Climate Labs launches blueprint to phase out fossil fuel advertising
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Late last month, a group of six magazine publishers – Bauer, Future, Hearst UK, Hello!, Immediate and Time Out – launched Atria, a single marketplace through which advertisers can engage with the combined reach of those publishers’ brands, equivalent to about 33m consumers.
The effort is powered by publisher-owned first-party data. It is hosted by audience platform Permutive.
Cath Waller is the managing director of advertising at Immediate Media. She is also the chair of PPA Magnetic, part of the Professional Publishers Association, the trade body for publishers.
A leading voice behind the Atria effort, Waller sat down with host Jack Benjamin to discuss the marketplace's launch and where it might be headed next.
The pair also discussed the current state of magazine publishing, and the headwinds and tailwinds facing Immediate.
Highlights:
2:43: The launch of Atria: how it works and how it came together
10:12: "The industry is where it is": Magazine media is disinvested and publishers are under pressure
15:25: The value of trusted editorial and a cleaner supply chain
20:41: Future-facing goals
26:59: How to handle AI? Embracing innovation as AI search reduces traffic
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The Fishbowl: Cath Waller, Immediate Media
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