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The Small Church Ministry Podcast

Laurie Graham Ertl
The Small Church Ministry Podcast
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    232: The Most Influential People in Your Church Might Not Be the Pastor

    09/06/2026 | 31 mins.
    We spend a lot of time talking about pastors, church leaders, and people with titles. But what if I told you some of the most influential people in your church will never stand on a stage, lead a meeting, or sit on a board? 
    In this episode, we're talking about the people shaping church culture every single week - and why the future of many small churches isn't sitting in the pastor's office.
    In this episode, we're talking about:
    Why influence and authority aren't the same thing
    How everyday people impact a church's health
    Why the future of your church isn't sitting in one office
    What influence actually looks like in a small church

    RESOURCES MENTIONED
    Join our free Facebook Community
    Get the Ministry Bundles here!
    Support the show

    SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW
    If you loved this episode, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts! Your support helps us reach more people -- just like you -- in small churches who need to hear this.
    🎙 Thanks for tuning in to Small Church Ministry Podcast! See you next week!

    FOLLOW US:
    Website: smallchurchministry.com
    Instagram: instagram.com/smallchurchministry
    Facebook: facebook.com/smallchurchministry
    Creative Solutions for Small Churches Facebook Community: facebook.com/groups/smallchurchministry
    Small Church Network: smallchurchministry.com/membership
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    231: Why “Take a Break” & “Just Say No” Aren’t Fixing Ministry Burnout

    02/06/2026 | 40 mins.
    Burnout recovery goes deeper than just taking a break. 
    In this episode, we’re talking about why surface-level burnout advice often isn’t enough, the deeper patterns underneath emotional exhaustion, and why so many people in ministry still feel depleted even after trying to rest, set boundaries, or “do less.”
    Listen in for:
    Why quick burnout fixes often don’t create lasting change
    Deeper patterns underneath emotional exhaustion and overfunctioning
    How chronic pressure and overresponsibility can reshape our nervous systems
    Why many people struggle to actually recover, even after resting

    RESOURCES MENTIONED
    Join our free Facebook Community
    Get the Ministry Bundles here!
    Support the show

    SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW
    If you loved this episode, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts! Your support helps us reach more people -- just like you -- in small churches who need to hear this.
    🎙 Thanks for tuning in to Small Church Ministry Podcast! See you next week!

    FOLLOW US:
    Website: smallchurchministry.com
    Instagram: instagram.com/smallchurchministry
    Facebook: facebook.com/smallchurchministry
    Creative Solutions for Small Churches Facebook Community: facebook.com/groups/smallchurchministry
    Small Church Network: smallchurchministry.com/membership
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    230: You Can’t Help Everyone (And It’s Exhausting)

    26/05/2026 | 41 mins.
    A lot of people in ministry feel like they’re constantly choosing who to disappoint. The church needs something. The team needs something. People want access to you. Your family needs you too. 
    And eventually, it starts feeling impossible to hold it all together without losing yourself somewhere in the process. 
    In this episode, we’re talking about:
    The pressure to always be available in ministry
    Why constant availability slowly drains us
    What happens when we keep leading without space to recover
    How guilt and responsibility quietly shape our choices
    Reconnecting with Jesus outside constant output

    RESOURCES MENTIONED
    Join our free Facebook Community
    Get the Ministry Bundles here!
    Support the show

    SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW
    If you loved this episode, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts! Your support helps us reach more people -- just like you -- in small churches who need to hear this.
    🎙 Thanks for tuning in to Small Church Ministry Podcast! See you next week!

    FOLLOW US:
    Website: smallchurchministry.com
    Instagram: instagram.com/smallchurchministry
    Facebook: facebook.com/smallchurchministry
    Creative Solutions for Small Churches Facebook Community: facebook.com/groups/smallchurchministry
    Small Church Network: smallchurchministry.com/membership
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    229: Ministry Burnout Is Real (But It’s Not Inevitable)

    19/05/2026 | 34 mins.
    Burnout is real … but a lot of the time, we’re not as stuck as we think we are. We say we’re overwhelmed, but we’re still saying yes, still filling gaps, still stepping in “just this once.” 
    At some point, we have to get honest about where we actually have a choice. Because if we don’t use it, we slowly build a version of ministry we don’t even like being part of. 
    Where we still have more choice than we’re acting as we do
    The difference between real limits and self-created pressure
    What it sounds like when we start blaming people, ministry, or the system
    Small shifts that move you out of reaction and back into agency

    RESOURCES MENTIONED
    Join our free Facebook Community
    Get the Ministry Bundles here!
    Support the show

    SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW
    If you loved this episode, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts! Your support helps us reach more people -- just like you -- in small churches who need to hear this.
    🎙 Thanks for tuning in to Small Church Ministry Podcast! See you next week!

    FOLLOW US:
    Website: smallchurchministry.com
    Instagram: instagram.com/smallchurchministry
    Facebook: facebook.com/smallchurchministry
    Creative Solutions for Small Churches Facebook Community: facebook.com/groups/smallchurchministry
    Small Church Network: smallchurchministry.com/membership
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    228: How to Get People to Step Up at Church (Without Asking for Volunteers)

    12/05/2026 | 26 mins.
    At some point, we have to admit that recruiting isn’t fixing our volunteer problem. We keep planning … and then trying to get people to care about it afterward. And that’s where things break down.
    But what if the real shift happens before anything is planned? When people are part of the process early, something changes. They don’t just hear the plan- they help shape it. And when that happens, ownership follows.
    In this episode:
    Why ownership starts before the plan is finished
    The simple shift that moves people from the sidelines to the field
    What most of us miss when we try to “build buy-in”
    A different way to gather input that actually leads somewhere
    Why this works—and why it feels so different from typical planning

    RESOURCES MENTIONED
    Join our free Facebook Community
    Get the Ministry Bundles here!
    Support the show

    SUBSCRIBE & REVIEW
    If you loved this episode, please take a moment to subscribe and leave a review on Apple Podcasts! Your support helps us reach more people -- just like you -- in small churches who need to hear this.
    🎙 Thanks for tuning in to Small Church Ministry Podcast! See you next week!

    FOLLOW US:
    Website: smallchurchministry.com
    Instagram: instagram.com/smallchurchministry
    Facebook: facebook.com/smallchurchministry
    Creative Solutions for Small Churches Facebook Community: facebook.com/groups/smallchurchministry
    Small Church Network: smallchurchministry.com/membership
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About The Small Church Ministry Podcast
The only podcast created for volunteers and everyday leaders in smaller congregations, this show embraces small church ministry as a place where God is already at work. Founder of Small Church Ministry and the Small Church Network, Laurie Graham Ertl shares why small churches matter—not as a scaled-down version of something bigger, but as powerful communities with their own unique strengths. Each episode offers creative solutions to real challenges with a mix of honest encouragement, leadership skills, and actionable next steps. Laurie hosts the show with a perspective shaped by decades in ministry on every side of small church life—as a volunteer, staff leader, and pastor’s spouse. She knows both the pressure and the beauty of small churches firsthand, and brings steady encouragement, practical wisdom, and deep care for both volunteers and ministry leaders.
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