Data Security Decoded

In this episode of Data Security Decoded, Cybersecurity veteran Dawn Cappelli joins host Caleb Tolin to unpack the rapidly evolving threat landscape facing operational technology environments. With decades of experience spanning CERT, Rockwell Automation, and now Dragos, Dawn breaks down how geopolitical conflicts, empowered hacktivists, and ransomware are reshaping OT risk. She shares the five critical ICS controls every organization should prioritize and discusses why community-driven defense models are now essential for resilience. A must-listen for leaders responsible for critical infrastructure, manufacturing, and industrial cybersecurity. What you'll learn: How global conflicts have dissolved previous norms that protected critical infrastructure from cyber retaliation. Why hacktivist groups are becoming more dangerous — and how state actors quietly support them. The five highest-impact ICS security controls and where most organizations fail. Why OT environments remain decades behind IT security — and what leaders must immediately address. How ransomware operators target manufacturing and critical infrastructure for maximum leverage. The risks of insecure remote access and unmanaged third-party connections. How OT-CERT and community defense can uplift organizations with limited resources. Episode Highlights: 00:00 – Opening + Guest Introduction Caleb introduces Dawn and frames her decades of OT and insider threat leadership. 02:00 – Dawn’s Early Journey into OT and Security How nuclear engineering, the CDC bioterrorism portal, and 9/11 sparked her cybersecurity mission. 05:00 – Founding the CERT Insider Threat Center Inside the origin story and its impact on insider risk theory. 07:00 – Moving to Rockwell: The Hidden OT Backdoor Risk Why insider sabotage in OT environments was a turning point in her career. 08:00 – The Geopolitical Shift in OT Threats How Russia–Ukraine changed everything about attacking critical infrastructure. 10:00 – The Rise of State-Aligned Hacktivists Why groups like Cyber Avengers now have real disruption capability. 13:00 – The SANS Five ICS Controls Dawn breaks down the controls that prevent and detect most attacks. 17:00 – Ransomware Trends in OT Why manufacturing is a prime target and how attacks are evolving. 19:00 – The Promise and Peril of Agentic AI in OT Why autonomous agents could cause catastrophic outcomes. 21:00 – OT-CERT: Free Global Resources How Dragos is empowering organizations worldwide with practical support. Episode Resources: Information on OT-CERT: OT-CERT Register for OT-CERT: Register for Dragos OT-CERT | Dragos Information on Community Defense Program: Community Defense Program | Dragos Register for Community Defense Program: Register for Dragos Community Defense Program | Dragos SANS Five ICS Cybersecurity Critical Controls: The Five ICS Cybersecurity Critical Controls

In this episode of Data Security Decoded, host Caleb Tolin sits down with Hayden Smith, CEO of Hunted Labs, as he breaks down how software supply chain attacks really work, why open source dependencies create unseen exposure, and what modern threat actors are doing to exploit trust at scale. Caleb and Hayden dive deep into real-world attacks, emerging TTPs, AI-powered threat hunting, and what organizations must do today to keep pace. Listeners walk away with a clear picture of the problem—and a practical blueprint for reducing supply chain risk. What You’ll Learn  How modern attackers infiltrate open source ecosystems through fake accounts and counterfeit package contributions. Why dependency chains dramatically amplify both exposure and attacker leverage. How to use threat intelligence and threat hunting to proactively evaluate upstream packages before adoption. Where AI-powered code analysis is changing the ability to discover hidden vulnerabilities and suspicious patterns. Why dependency pinning, SBOM discipline, and continuous monitoring now define a strong supply chain posture. Episode Highlights 00:00 — Welcome + Why Software Supply Chain Risk Matters 02:00 — Hayden’s Non-Cyber Passion + Framing Today’s Topic 03:00 — Why Open Source Powers Everything—and Why That Creates Exposure 06:00 — The Real Attack Vector: Contribution as Initial Access 08:00 — Inside the Indonesian “Fake Package” Campaign 10:30 — How to Evaluate Code + Contributor Identity Together 12:00 — Threat Hunting and AI-Enabled Code Interrogation 15:00 — The Challenge of Undisclosed Vulnerabilities in Widely Used Components 16:30 — How Recovery Works When Malware Is Already in Your Stack 19:00 — Continuous Monitoring as the Foundation of Modern Supply Chain Security 22:00 — Pinning, Maintainer Analysis, and Code Interrogation Best Practices 24:00 — Where to Learn More About Hunted Labs Episode Resources Hunted Labs — https://huntedlabs.com Hunted Labs Entercept Hunted Labs “Hunting Ground” research blog Open Source Malware (Paul McCarty)

Welcome to Data Security Decoded. Join host Caleb Tolin in conversation with Morgan Adamski who leads Cyber, Data, and Tech Risk at PwC and is a former US national security leader who spent 16 years tracking nation-state threats inside the US government. Coming out of a career spent inside secure facilities without windows or phones and working to address China’s prepositioning in US critical infrastructure, Morgan shares a direct view of how geopolitics is now shaping cyber risk decisions in boardrooms. What You'll Learn: Why only 24% invest in proactive defense, even while 60% call cyber a top priority How AI agents are cutting breach timelines to under 80 days Why cyber insurance is now a hygiene scorecard, not just financial protection The real reason leaders lack confidence in resilience Where legacy systems and supply chain dependencies expose blind spots How public–private collaboration changed the response to China’s infrastructure campaign What CISOs must confront now to avoid being blindsided by the next crisis The conversation gives security leaders and decision-makers a clear view of where current strategies fall short and the choices required to build real resilience before the next crisis forces it. Episode Highlights: [03:43] Why China prepositions inside US critical infrastructure to trigger disruption and panic in a crisis [04:20] Collective defense in action: how victims and industry exposed the campaign [09:27] The truth behind cyber budgets: only 24% invest in proactive defense [11:57] How AI agents are shortening breach lifecycles to under 80 days [13:07] Why cyber insurance is now a security scorecard, not a safety net Episode Resources Caleb Tolin on LinkedIn Morgan Adamski on LinkedIn PwC’s 2026 Global Digital Trust Insights report

In this episode of Data Security Decoded, join host Caleb Tolin as he welcomes back Joe Hladik, Head of Rubrik Zero Labs, to unpack the findings from their new report, Identity Crisis: Understanding & Building Resilience Against Identity-Driven Threats, Joe breaks down how the explosion of non-human identities, from API keys to AI agents, is rewriting the threat landscape and forcing security leaders to rethink the perimeter itself. He explains why identity resilience is the new foundation of cyber defense, how to prioritize recovery when every system matters, and what steps teams can take now to stay ahead of emerging agentic AI-driven attacks. What You'll Learn: Why identity has replaced the network as the modern security perimeter How non-human identities outnumber humans 82 to 1, and what that means for control and monitoring Practical steps to build recovery plans around dependency mapping and minimal viable operations Why ransom payments remain high and how better resilience planning can reverse that trend How threat actors exploit backup systems to gain total business leverage What agentic AI really means for cyber defense and how to prepare for its impact The episode offers a clear framework for leaders to transform identity resilience from a reactive measure into a proactive pillar of enterprise security. Episode Highlights: [05:13] The 82:1 Ratio: Why Non-Human Identities Now Define Risk [07:03] Prioritizing Recovery: Building for Minimal Viable Operations [10:53] Declining Recovery Confidence and the Rise of Ransom Payments [15:46] Backups Under Attack: How Threat Actors Seize Business Control [16:32] Agentic AI and the Shifting Nature of Cyber Threats [25:32] What Defenders Can Do Now to Build Identity Resilience Episode Resources Caleb Tolin on LinkedIn Joe Hladik on LinkedIn Rubrik Zero Labs report, Identity Crisis: Understanding & Building Resilience Against Identity-Driven Threats

Welcome to Data Security Decoded. Join host Caleb Tolin in conversation with Lauren Zabierek, Senior Vice President for the Future of Digital Security at the Institute for Security and Technology. A former CISA leader and long-time national security professional, Lauren unpacks the principles of Secure by Design, Secure by Default, and Secure by Demand and how these frameworks are reshaping the software supply chain. What You'll Learn: Why security must be a business decision led by executives rather than a technical afterthought How Secure by Design principles inspired more than 300 companies to eliminate entire classes of vulnerabilities The economic incentives that drive insecure software and what must change to realign the market How customers can evaluate vendors and ask the right questions to ensure secure authentication and transparent practices The role of Secure by Demand in helping buyers assess software safety before and after adoption Why initiatives like #ShareTheMicInCyber are essential for expanding diversity and innovation across cybersecurity policy The conversation offers a practical roadmap for executives, CISOs, and technology leaders to integrate secure development practices into business strategy, turning software security from a compliance checkbox into a competitive advantage. Episode Highlights: [08:46] Inside CISA’s Secure by Design Pledge [09:41] The Three Pillars: Secure by Design, Default, and Demand [11:59] Why Security Is an Economic Issue, Not Just Technical [15:41] How Customers Can Drive Change Through Secure by Demand [18:23] The Story and Impact of #ShareTheMicInCyber Quotes: "Security has to be a business decision led by business leaders in the company. It should not be an afterthought. It shouldn't just be left to the security team to sort of try to convince the rest of the company that they should do this. It's the company leadership that should say, this is a priority and therefore orient the different resources and priorities around that particular topic." "Having more secure software is not a technical impossibility. The companies right now are acting rationally in a misaligned market. Secure by Design, at its core, is about shifting those incentives in order to drive a change in behavior." "Software is what economists would refer to as a credence good. It's very hard to assess the quality of a product or a service both before you consume it and after you consume it. We don't have the criteria or benchmarks to fully assess that, and that’s a problem." "We looked at really how to provide guidance, and then we also created the Secure by Design pledge. And at the time when we launched it in 2024 at RSA, we had 68 software companies sign on… And then by the time we left, we had over 300 companies sign on. Now this pledge, you know, it addressed certain things like eliminating entire classes of vulnerability. It talked about enabling multifactor authentication by default across product lines. It talked about a vulnerability disclosure policy. Those are just a few things, but you can see that they're very concrete, measurable actions that lead to better outcomes." Episode Resources Caleb Tolin on LinkedIn Lauren Zabierek on LinkedIn Institute for Security and Technology (IST) Secure by Demand Guide from CISA