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Paul Barnhurst AKA The FP&A Guy
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  • Financial Modeler's Corner

    Building AI for the Top 1% of Excel Users with Peter Fuller

    15/09/2026 | 50 mins.
    In this episode of Financial Modeler’s Corner, the Mod Squad, Ian Schnoor, Giles Male, and Paul Barnhurst, speak with Peter Fuller about AI-powered financial modeling and the rapidly changing future of Excel. Peter shares how Tracelight evolved from an AI-for-Excel tool into a broader AI workspace for professionals in finance and consulting.

    Peter Fuller is the Co-Founder and CEO of Tracelight, based in London, England. Before founding Tracelight in 2024, he was an early-stage venture capital investor at Entrepreneurs First and spent five years at McKinsey, including time with QuantumBlack, McKinsey’s AI practice. His background combines finance, consulting, venture capital, AI, and financial modeling.

    Expect to Learn
    How Tracelight evolved from an AI-for-Excel tool.
    Why specialized AI tools can compete with larger platforms.
    How AI orchestration is changing financial modeling.
    Why enterprise AI adoption is accelerating.
    How AI could transform the role of financial modelers.

    Here are a few quotes from the episode:
    "The needs of the top 1% of users are different from the needs of the other billion people using Excel." - Peter Fuller
    "The amount of value that you'll be able to add in the world is now just increasing exponentially." - Peter Fuller

    Peter explains why he sees AI as an opportunity for financial modelers rather than simply a threat. As AI becomes more capable, he expects modelers to move beyond manually building spreadsheets and toward creating models that become a persistent part of how businesses operate.

    Follow Ian:
    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianschnoor/

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    Follow Peter:
    LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-fuller-/

    Disclosure: Portions of this episode (such as the introduction or promotional segments) use AI-generated voice narration produced under human editorial review.

    In Today's Episode:
    [00:00] - Trailer & Introduction
    [03:40] - Building AI for Excel
    [07:14] - Competing With Big AI Labs
    [11:27] - Tracelight's Strategy
    [15:30] - Tracelight's Core Customers
    [16:23] - AI Harnesses & Orchestration
    [19:32] - The Future of AI Models
    [22:10] - Multi-Model AI Workflows
    [27:44] - Enterprise Growth & User Love
    [33:32] - The Tracelight Platform
    [43:03] - Excel, AI & The Future of Modeling
    [47:13] - The Future of Financial Modelers
  • Financial Modeler's Corner

    Pitch Anything's Oren Klaff: From Spreadsheet to Deal Table

    08/09/2026 | 49 mins.
    In this episode of Financial Modeler’s Corner, Paul Barnhurst speaks with Oren Klaff about how financial modeling can become a powerful tool for deal-making, investment decisions, and career growth. Oren explains why modelers should focus on identifying key sensitivities, communicating insights effectively, and helping buyers and sellers find ways to make deals work rather than simply pointing out flaws.

    Oren Klaff is a Private Equity Fund Manager and the bestselling author of Pitch Anything. Based in Beverly Hills, California, he focuses on recruiting smart people to join his portfolio companies. Oren began his career as a financial analyst in private equity before moving into deal-making and capital raising. His experience in financial modeling has played a key role in his approach to deal-making and raising capital.

    Expect to Learn:
    How financial modeling can help you transition into deal-making and capital raising.
    Why identifying sensitive assumptions is more valuable than simply finding errors.
    How analysts can avoid antagonizing other parties and instead help move deals forward.
    What makes a financial model professional, usable, and trustworthy.
    Why simplicity and structure matter when building models for business users.

    Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode:
    "Excel will never die. Rock and roll will never die, and Excel will never die." - Oren Klaff
    "The shortest path to high status is finding something wrong." - Oren Klaff

    Oren explains that the real value of a modeler goes beyond building technically complex spreadsheets. The best modelers help decision-makers understand what matters, communicate uncertainty, and find practical ways to move a deal forward. A strong model should also be simple enough for business users to operate and robust enough to withstand scrutiny.

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    Disclosure: Portions of this episode (such as the introduction or promotional segments) use AI-generated voice narration produced under human editorial review.

    In Today's Episode:
    [00:00] - Trailer
    [05:20] - Finding Insight in the Numbers
    [07:28] - Moving From Analyst to Deal Maker
    [10:58] - Using Modeling Without Antagonizing the Other Side
    [15:26] - Price, Terms, and Making Deals Work
    [20:11] - Real-World Applications of Modeling in Deals
    [23:24] - Modeling Horror Stories & What Good Models Look Like
    [31:25] - Building Models That Help Raise Money
    [35:20] - Storytelling With Numbers
    [40:13] - Pitch Anything and the Role of Status
    [43:24] - Rapid Fire: Excel, AI, Sensitivity Analysis & More
    [44:53] - Final Advice for Advancing Your Modeling Career
  • Financial Modeler's Corner

    Why AI Makes Financial Modeling Best Practices More Important with Marli van Staden-Basson

    01/09/2026 | 53 mins.
    In this episode of Financial Modeler’s Corner, Paul Barnhurst speaks with Marli van Staden-Basson about best-practice financial modeling, AI, model design, and the skills needed to build reliable models. Marli explains why transparency, usability, and risk management matter, and how AI makes strong modeling practices even more important.

    Marli van Staden-Basson is the founder and financial modeling specialist at Near Future Limited, with over 20 years of experience in corporate and infrastructure finance. She specializes in renewable energy and digital infrastructure modeling, including complex model development and independent model audits.

    Expect to Learn:
    What best-practice financial modeling really means.
    Why model design and transparency are so important.
    How AI is changing financial modeling.
    Common modeling mistakes and practices to avoid.
    How to design models around the people who use them.
    Why human review remains essential when using AI.

    Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode:
    "You are still the last line of defence as the human modeler." - Marli van Staden-Basson
    "A good financial model should really be doing a single thing." - Marli van Staden-Basson

    AI can make modeling faster, but Marli explains why it does not replace good modeling practices. Clear design, purposeful structure, checks, and human judgement remain essential for creating models that are reliable and easy to review.

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    Disclosure: Portions of this episode (such as the introduction or promotional segments) use AI-generated voice narration produced under human editorial review.
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    In Today's Episode:
    [00:00] - Trailer
    [03:29] - Building a Career in Financial Modeling
    [07:18] - Breaking the Modeler Stereotype
    [10:54] - Financial Modeling Horror Stories
    [18:49] - Starting a Financial Modeling Consultancy
    [24:28] - AI and Best-Practice Modeling
    [30:26] - Why Model Design Matters
    [37:07] - Tips for Building Better Models
    [41:23] - Worst Modeling Practices to Avoid
    [47:43] - Excel Rapid Fire
    [51:05] - AI and the Future of Modeling
  • Financial Modeler's Corner

    What Separates an Excellent Financial Modeler From a Technically Good One with Diarmuid Early

    25/08/2026 | 49 mins.
    In this episode of Financial Modeler’s Corner, Paul Barnhurst speaks with Diarmuid Early about what separates great financial modelers from technically capable ones, the rise of AI in financial modeling, and why judgment remains essential. Diarmuid shares lessons from his career, his experience as a three-time World Financial Modeling Champion, and why understanding what a model actually means matters more than simply building it correctly.

    Diarmuid Early is the founder of Early Days Consulting, a data analytics and financial modeling consultancy. He previously worked at Boston Consulting Group and spent nearly a decade in Deutsche Bank’s Origination and Advisory division. He holds a PhD in computer science and is a three-time World Financial Modeling Champion, Excel MVP, and Master Financial Modeler

    Expect to Learn:
    Why great modelers think beyond simply building the model
    How assumptions and business understanding drive valuable financial models
    Where AI currently fits into financial modeling
    Why AI-generated models still require careful human review
    Why continuous learning remains essential for financial modelers

    Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode:
    “The hard part is getting everybody aligned. What are the assumptions?” - Diarmuid Early
    “There is a smart way to do it. And so if you're banging your head against it, go find the smart way.” - Diarmuid Early

    AI will continue to take on more of the technical work involved in financial modeling, but speed alone does not make a model useful or reliable. Strong modelers will continue to stand out through their ability to develop credible assumptions, interpret results, exercise judgment, and understand the decisions a model is meant to support.

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    Disclosure: Portions of this episode (such as the introduction or promotional segments) use AI-generated voice narration produced under human editorial review.
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    Sign up for the Advanced Financial Modeler Accreditation today and get 15% off using the code “Podcast” at https://bit.ly/497oAqW

    In Today's Episode:
    [00:00] - Trailer
    [03:31] - Diarmuid’s Journey Into Financial Modeling
    [06:00] - Financial Modeler Stereotypes
    [08:20] - Career Advice for Aspiring Modelers
    [12:46] - Financial Modeling Competitions
    [14:59] - Consulting, Coaching, and Career Evolution
    [18:25] - Meeting Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella
    [21:08] - AI and the Future of Financial Modeling
    [25:41] - Why AI-Generated Models Still Need Review
    [31:09] - Financial Modeling Standards and Best Practices
    [35:19] - Diarmuid’s Most Challenging Modeling Case
    [39:28] - Excel Shortcuts and Modeling Tools
    [41:38] - Rapid-Fire Modeling Questions
    [46:01] - Continuous Learning and Final Advice
  • Financial Modeler's Corner

    Can Financial Modelers Trust AI to Build Reliable Models? with Ryan Humphrey

    18/08/2026 | 22 mins.
    In this episode of Financial Modeler’s Corner, Paul Barnhurst speaks with Ryan Humphrey about financial model auditing, the skills strong modelers need, and how AI is changing the profession. Ryan explains why communication, judgment, and independence matter alongside technical ability. He also shares how model audits work, why poorly structured models create risks, and how AI could shift financial modelers from building models toward reviewing and refining them.

    Ryan Humphrey is a Partner at Forvis Mazars in London, specializing in financial model audits, including accounting and tax reviews. A qualified chartered accountant, he contributed to How to Review a Spreadsheet and co-authored Credible Model Audit for the AI Era. He is also conducting research with Cambridge University in sustainability leadership and is an advocate for the energy transition.

    Expect to Learn:
    Why communication is essential in financial modeling
    How independent financial model audits support major investment decisions
    Why human judgment remains critical as AI improves
    How AI could shift financial modelers from building to reviewing
    Why continuous learning is increasingly important in the AI era

    Here are a few relevant quotes from the episode:
    “The model really is... a communication vector more than anything. It's about telling a story.” - Ryan Humphrey
    “What cannot be replaced is judgement.” - Ryan Humphrey

    AI is becoming increasingly capable of understanding and building spreadsheets, but credible-looking outputs can still contain errors. As AI takes on more of the technical building process, financial modelers will need to focus even more on judgment, review, communication, and understanding what a model is designed to accomplish.

    Follow Ryan:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rchumphrey/
    Website: https://www.forvismazars.com/uk/en/users/our-team/ryan-humphrey
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    In Today's Episode:
    [02:31] - Why Communication Matters in Financial Modeling
    [05:14] - Ryan’s Financial Model Audit Nightmare
    [08:29] - How Financial Model Audits Work
    [10:18] - What Model Auditors Actually Validate
    [12:50] - Essential Skills for Model Auditors
    [16:45] - How AI Is Changing Financial Model Audits
    [19:26] - The Risks of Credible-Looking AI Models
    [20:45] - Moving From Model Building to Model Reviewing
    [21:25] - Continuous Learning and Final Advice
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About Financial Modeler's Corner
Financial Modeler's Corner is a podcast where we talk all about the art and science of financial modeling with distinguished Financial Modeler's from around the globe. Financial Modeler's Corner is hosted by Paul Barnhurst, aka The FP&A Guy, a global thought leader in the field of finance. The Financial Modeler's Corner podcast is brought to you by Financial Modeling Institute. FMI offers the most respected accreditations in financial modeling.
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