Mulligan Brothers Interviews

What does it really take to become a Navy SEAL?

In this episode of the Mulligan Brothers Interviews Podcast, former Navy SEALs DJ Shipley, Clint Emerson, and Jason Redman break down BUD/S (Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL training), one of the toughest military selection programs in the world.

From Hell Week and brutal underwater drills to sleep deprivation, freezing cold, and the constant mental fight to not quit, they share firsthand stories of what Navy SEAL training is really like and what separates the people who make it from the ones who don’t.

This conversation goes deep into the mindset behind survival, resilience under pressure, and pushing through extreme hardship. They explain why BUD/S is far more mental than physical, and how the lessons learned in training shape not only combat, but life far beyond it.

If you’ve ever wondered what Hell Week actually feels like, how SEAL candidates survive BUD/S, or what it means to push past your limits, this episode gives you a rare inside look.

Topics include:

• Navy SEAL BUD/S training explained

• Hell Week survival and mental toughness

• Pool competency and underwater stress tests

• How Navy SEALs handle fear, pain, and pressure

• The mindset required to never quit

• Lessons from combat and life on a SEAL team
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In today's episode, Jordan sits down with former Navy SEAL and founder of Be Free Ice Cream, Chris Fettes. Chris details his unique path from navigating a turbulent childhood to seeking validation through military service after the events of 9/11. He provides a rare, honest look at the grueling selection processes for BUD/S and DevGru, sharing intense stories from his deployments as an elite sniper and reconnaissance operator.

Beyond the battlefield, Chris opens up about his incredibly difficult transition to civilian life. He discusses the severe depression, loss of purpose, and identity struggles that often plague combat veterans. Highlighting a major turning point, Chris shares his transformative experience with Ibogaine therapy, explaining how it repaired traumatic brain injuries, allowed him to confront deep seated emotional trauma, and ultimately saved his life. This raw discussion sheds light on the reality of veteran mental health, the critical need for authentic male role models, and the power of spiritual healing.

We also dive into Chris's remarkable reinvention as an entrepreneur. Rooted in fond childhood memories in Japan and a profound moment sharing frozen treats with orphans during a deployment in Africa, his passion for ice cream became the vehicle for his new life mission. Chris shares the harsh realities of building a business from the ground up, the financial risks of entrepreneurship, and his vision for scaling a clean ingredient national brand. Listen in for an inspiring masterclass on resilience, overcoming dark times, and having the courage to discover your true purpose.
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In today's episode, Jordan sits down with Ian Dilkes, a former military engineer, bomb disposal expert, and interrogation instructor who has transitioned into a career as a firefighter and television personality. Ian shares his journey from a rebellious youth in Leicester to joining the British Army at sixteen, detailing his deployments to Kosovo, Iraq, and Afghanistan. He provides a candid look at the realities of combat, the psychological toll of warfare, and the vital importance of camaraderie and communication in overcoming trauma.

The conversation delves deeply into the psychology of interrogation, exploring how the mind can be manipulated and the crucial role of rapport building in high pressure situations. We also discuss his current work in the fire service, the hidden realities of first responder life, and his experiences testing the mental and physical limits of celebrities and everyday people on television. Throughout the episode, Ian offers grounded advice on building mental resilience, stepping out of your comfort zone, and overcoming the trap of overthinking to build a simpler, more focused life.
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In this episode, Jordan sits down with Kyle Morgan. Kyle shares an unfiltered account of his journey, starting from an unstable childhood marked by financial hardship to ultimately finding his team and purpose within the military ranks.

Kyle explains the intense realities of Tier 1 special operations, providing a firsthand account of his solo response to the 2015 Radisson Blu hotel terror attack in Bamako. But beyond the battlefield, Kyle opens up about his hardest fights. He details his hidden battle with high-functioning alcoholism, the near-collapse of his family life, and the heavy emotional toll of trauma.

Throughout the conversation, Kyle discusses the turning point that led to over four years of sobriety, the transformative impact of his faith, and the psychological reset he experienced through Ibogaine treatment in Mexico. He also outlines his new mission to build better protectors through his company, Blu Bearing Solutions, where he translates elite close-quarters battle concepts into training for private citizens.
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In this segment, SAS operator Jay Morton provides a rare look into the operational differences between UK and US Special Forces. Morton discusses the American military, their professionalism, and notes how their unmatched funding allows for extreme specialization, while British SF soldiers must become "diversified" masters of multiple trades. Beyond the technicalities of Tier 1 operations, Jay reflects on the psychological journey of elite selection. He shares how a competitive drive rooted in childhood insecurity and the crucial encouragement of a platoon sergeant in Afghanistan led him to attempt selection at just 23 years old, eventually becoming the only one of his cohort to pass.
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