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Okay, But... Birds

Dr. Scott Taylor
Okay, But... Birds
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  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but is the lyrebird a liar?

    22/10/2026 | 31 mins.
    E45. Lyrebirds can copy a chainsaw, a car alarm and a camera shutter, so it is easy to call them liars. Dr. Anastasia Dalziell of Western Sydney University has spent years recording them in the wild, and she explains what the famous Attenborough clip left out and some of the most surprising evolutionary reasons for mimicry.
    In this episode, you'll hear about:
    Why a female lyrebird starts sounding like an eagle when you get too close to her nest
    What a male does when the female he has been courting tries to walk away
    The other lyrebird, and the hooked rainforest vine it plays like an instrument
    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    Red-tailed Hawk audio contributed by David McCartt, ML229578
    Killdeer audio contributed by Mike Andersen, ML129054
    Superb Lyrebird audio contributed by Vicki Powys, ML229691
    Albert's Lyrebird audio contributed by Robert C. Stein, ML309505
    Gray Shrikethrush video contributed by Ramit Singal, ML641225345
    Gray Shrikethrush audio contributed by Vicki Powys, ML229649
    Golden Whistler video contributed by Ramit Singal, ML641948342
    Golden Whistler audio contributed by Ramit Singal, ML272346391
    Wedge-tailed Eagle audio contributed by Vicki Powys, ML223274
    Gray Goshawk audio contributed by Ramit Singal, ML246142551
    Albert's Lyrebird video contributed by Fiona Backhouse, ML615390207
    Albert's Lyrebird audio contributed by Ramit Singal, ML141465291
    Albert's Lyrebird video contributed by Fiona Backhouse, ML615390194
    Albert's Lyrebird video contributed by Fiona Backhouse, ML615390209
    Satin Bowerbird audio contributed by Newton Hobbs, ML16236
    Albert's Lyrebird video contributed by Fiona Backhouse, ML615390211
    Superb Lyrebird audio contributed by James (Jim) Holmes, ML463586881
    Superb Lyrebird recordings (2024 films): Justin Welbergen, Jaden Thompson, Elle Heiser, Yoon Lee, Fiona Backhouse and Anastasia Dalziell, Hawkesbury Institute for the Environment, Western Sydney University, Australia, and Cornell Lab of Ornithology, Cornell University, USA.
  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but what's threatening the apex predators of the sky?

    15/10/2026 | 33 mins.
    E44. An adult eagle has no natural predators, so why are birds of prey declining? Dr. Todd Katzner, a wildlife biologist with the U.S. Geological Survey, explains the surprising dangers facing golden eagles and their kin, from spinning wind turbines to a threat small enough to fit on a grain of rice.
    In this episode, you'll hear about:
    Why an eagle that can clearly see a wind turbine still flies into one
    How a hunter's choice of bullet ends up inside an eagle
    The flap count that tells a vulture whether to risk crossing the sea
    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    Bald Eagle audio contributed by Darrell Peterson, ML145265541
    Golden Eagle audio contributed by W. Douglas Robinson, ML612942188
    Golden Eagle audio contributed by Kathy Groschupf, ML57165
    American Goshawk video contributed by Dan J. MacNeal, ML297994251
    Harpy Eagle audio contributed by Curtis Marantz, ML81101
    Ruby-throated Hummingbird audio contributed by Trenton Voytko, ML604314061
    Ferruginous Hawk audio contributed by Gerrit Vyn, ML172487
  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but how terrifying were terror birds?

    08/10/2026 | 26 mins.
    E43. For millions of years, South America’s top predators weren’t cats or bears. They were birds, some taller than a person. Paleontologist Dr. Federico "Dino" Degrange of the Universidad Nacional de Córdoba joins us to ask whether terror birds really earned their name.
    In this episode, you'll hear about:
    The surprising weapon a terror bird actually used to bring down its prey
    What left bite marks on one of the biggest terror birds ever found
    Why the last terror bird standing was one of the smallest
    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    Black-legged Seriema video contributed by Pablo Hernan Capovilla, ML662237304
    Red-legged Seriema audio contributed by Matthew D. Medler, ML189557
    Black-legged Seriema audio contributed by Steven L. Hilty, ML83854
  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but what happens when a bird gets sick?

    01/10/2026 | 33 mins.
    E42. Birds get sick too, and a lot of what happens next looks surprisingly familiar. Dr. Andrea Townsend of Hamilton College has spent two decades following American crows through outbreaks, and she walks Scott through what illness really does to a bird, from the family it belongs to down to the clever brain it depends on.
    In this episode, you'll hear about:
    The surprising way crows choose their partners, and what it costs them when disease comes around
    What a stomach bug does to one of the cleverest birds you'll ever meet
    Why going it alone can be the riskier move while a virus is spreading
    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    American Crow video contributed by Jay McGowan, ML472843
    Common Raven audio contributed by Gerrit Vyn, ML137574
    Burrowing Owl audio contributed by Bob McGuire, ML188805
  • Okay, But... Birds

    Okay, but griffins, and ligers, and birds, oh my!

    24/09/2026 | 32 mins.
    E41. Centaurs, mermaids, minotaurs: we have been inventing creatures that are two things at once for as long as we have told stories. Birds do it for real. Dr. Glaucia Del-Rio of the Florida Museum of Natural History studies two Amazonian antbirds that meet where a river runs out, and what their offspring say about where one species ends.
    In this episode, you'll hear about:
    Why a river can be an impossible barrier for a bird with perfectly good wings, and what researchers found when they carried birds out into the middle of one and let go
    How to spot a hybrid antbird at a glance, once you know which colors belong to which parent
    The German-Brazilian ornithologist an all-women expedition was named for, and the injury she dealt with herself, a long way from any hospital
    All audio, video, and images in this episode are either original to Okay, But... Birds (© Okay Media, LLC) or used under license/permission from the respective rights holders. Media from the Macaulay Library is used courtesy of the Cornell Lab of Ornithology as follows:
    Red-capped Manakin audio contributed by David L. Ross Jr., ML57360
    Streak-headed Woodcreeper audio contributed by Ted Parker, ML21543
    American Flamingo audio contributed by Gerrit Vyn, ML172484
    Lawrence's Warbler (hybrid) audio contributed by Curtis Marantz, ML113786
    Brewster's Warbler (hybrid) audio contributed by Curtis Marantz, ML76906
    Additional photos and video courtesy of Glaucia Del-Rio: Marco Rego, Fabio Schunck, Luis Morais, and Angela Prochilo. Harlequin Antbird photo by Hector Bottai, via Wikimedia Commons, licensed CC BY-SA 4.0 (creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/).
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About Okay, But... Birds
Hosted by evolutionary biologist Dr. Scott Taylor, Okay, But... Birds explores the drama, brilliance, and science behind bird life. Each snackable 30-minute episode blends smart storytelling, expert interviews, and a touch of humor to reveal how birds shape our world. No jargon. No binoculars required. Just real science, quirky insights, and bird-brained drama you’ll want to share at brunch. Because birds aren’t background. Birds are cool.
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