415 - Charlie Kirk's Assassination: We have gone beyond the pale
Huge changes are happening in the political landscape. In this video, I reflect on the assassination of Charlie Kirk and how this moment has deeply affected me toward recognizing how broken our unity has become. Drawing on symbolic insights, I explore the danger of turning opposition into real enmity and the need to return to truth, forgiveness, and higher purpose.YouTube version: https://youtu.be/NrDbHQurRpgThe recent interview with my brother, Matthieu, that I mention in the video: https://youtu.be/8-RWp1_lSEM?si=flnni77ae94jpuD-The Symbolic World Enters ParadiseJoin me and Deacon Seraphim Rohlin this November in our course on Dante's Paradiso.-Course length: 5 weeks, 15 hours-Dates of live classes: Wednesdays, November 5th to December 3rd, 2025-Time: 2-5 pm Eastern Time-Cost: 190 USD-Get 15% off with the early bird sale through all of October with the code: EARLYPARADISO-Register today: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/dantes-paradisoDuring October you can also get 50% off the Inferno and Purgatorio courses with the code: DANTE50-Inferno: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/dantes-inferno-the-course-Purgatorio: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/dantes-purgatoriođŸ’» Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.comđŸ”— Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageauÂ đŸ”’ BECOME A PATRON: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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414 - Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin (Universal History) - American Folk Magic and Christianity: From the Reformation to Mormonism
Enchantment never truly disappeared from the modern world.In this episode of Universal History Deacon Seraphim Rohlin and I explore the world of magic and folk superstition in American Christianity.What is magic? Where’s the line between prayer and magic? Why did Protestant reformers ban holy water but keep belief in the devil? How did treasure-hunting rituals lead to the rise of Mormonism?YouTube version: https://youtu.be/o9rMy6lde0cTimestamps:00:00 - Coming up00:37 - Intro music01:01 - Introduction04:54 - What is magic?08:46 - The modern & Enlightenment ideas of superstition11:00 - Prayers and psalms13:30 - The Reformation's perspective24:27 - Medieval understanding of superstition26:53 - Example: the French "Dog-saint"28:11 - Reformation conclusions33:37 - You have an embarrassing illness37:21 - Christian magic hacks46:29 - Manifestation52:03 - Scapegoating54:31 - Categories of magic56:47 - Divination04:30 - Water witching07:30 - Saint Porphyrios08:51 - Finding water09:57 - Finding other things11:44 - Money digging13:33 - How money digging works17:34 - The symbolism of the New World20:54 - Joseph Smith and Mormonism24:18 - The human need for enchantmentđŸ’» Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.comđŸ”— Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageauÂ đŸ”’ BECOME A PATRON: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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413 - Heidi White - The Divided Soul: Duty and Desire in Literature and Life
In this conversation, I sit down with author and educator Heidi White to discuss her new book, The Divided Soul. We explore the story of the prodigal son, the tension between duty and desire, and how these themes echo through literature, culture, and our own lives. Heidi shares insights from the Bible, classical works, and pop culture, showing that many stories reflect this deep human struggle.YouTube version: https://youtu.be/1LjDeZpSviwBuy Heidi’s book: https://www.goldberrypress.com/products/the-divided-soul-duty-and-desire-in-literature-and-lifeHeidi’s Substack and podcast: https://closereads.substack.com/ Instagram: @heidiwhitereadsÂ đŸ“– Let's take our stories back. Check out our latest book in the Tales for Now and Ever series, Rapunzel and the Evil Witch: https://rapunzelbook.com/ Fr. Stephen De Young's Jubilees and the Nephilim course is now finished and available for purchase: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/jubilees-and-the-nephilim Timestamps00:00 - Coming up01:40 - Intro music02:04 - Introduction02:48 - The prodigal son05:32 - Duty and desire07:17 - Paradise as unity13:02 - Why the duality?17:36 - Sins of the right hand and the left hand20:49 - Ordering desire27:30 - Examples33:28 - Repentance and sacrifice38:04 - Christ's version of this pattern44:24 - Heidi's visionđŸ’» Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.comđŸ”— Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageauÂ đŸ”’ BECOME A PATRON: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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412 - The Age of Self-Esteem
This is August's patron video that I decided to make public. In it I explore the modern idea of self-esteem—where it came from, how it shapes our culture, and why it so often leads us into confusion and disorder. I contrast this with the Christian vision of humility, which offers a path to true freedom and joy. YouTube version: https://youtu.be/e__8eVCgjCEPlease consider becoming a patron to get exclusive access to videos like this: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribeđŸ“– Let's take our stories back. Check out our latest book in the Tales for Now and Ever series, Rapunzel and the Evil Witch: https://rapunzelbook.com/Join Fr. Stephen De Young in his Jubilees and the Nephilim course, now streaming live on The Symbolic World: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/jubilees-and-the-nephilimOur website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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411 - Dr. Michael Levin & Dr. John Vervaeke - Brave New Biology: Intelligence Trumps DNA
Dr. Michael Levin is a professor in the Department of Biology at Tufts University and an associate faculty member at the Wyss Institute at Harvard. He directs the Allen Discovery Center at Tufts, where his team integrates biophysics, computational modeling, and behavioral science to study how cellular collectives make decisions during embryogenesis, regeneration, and cancer.Levin’s research centers on diverse forms of intelligence and unconventional embodied minds, bridging conceptual theory, experimental biology, and translational work aimed at regenerative medicine. His lab also pioneers efforts in artificial intelligence and the bioengineering of novel living machines.YouTube version: https://youtu.be/iwOJ9PWcPmoRead more about Dr. Michael Levin’s work: https://drmichaellevin.org/X: https://x.com/drmichaellevinYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@drmichaellevinJohn Vervaeke's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@johnvervaekeđŸ“– Let's take our stories back. Check out our latest book in the Tales for Now and Ever series, Rapunzel and the Evil Witch: https://rapunzelbook.com/Join Fr. Stephen De Young in his Jubilees and the Nephilim course, now streaming live on The Symbolic World: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/jubilees-and-the-nephilimTimestamps:00:00 - Coming up01:14 - Intro music01:40 - Introduction02:23 - What Michael does06:19 - Example experiments07:51 - Memories outside the brain12:46 - Terminology: memory13:59 - Communicate to biological cells15:54 - Limitations?17:39 - Platonic patterns34:06 - Incarnation and constraints39:26 - Causes49:28 - New beings in new spaces52:25 - What the Enlightenment dismissed55:32 - Molecular medicine57:36 - Subtle bodies01:00:45 - Ethics01:03:37 - Medical and meaning applications01:11:42 - Frightening01:14:31 - Against the status quo01:19:03 - Should we dabble in this technology?đŸ’» Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.comđŸ”— Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageauÂ đŸ”’ BECOME A PATRON: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.