The Self-Love Recovery Podcast

On Dianna Romanov's Divorced Like a Boss podcast, psychotherapist Ross Rosenberg, M.Ed., explains his Human Magnet Syndrome theory, that givers are reflexively drawn to narcissistic takers, and why the outdated term "codependency" should be replaced by Self-Love Deficit Disorder. His pyramid model traces the problem from childhood attachment trauma to core shame, pathological loneliness, and an addiction-like compulsion to stay in harmful relationships. His ten-stage Self-Love Recovery Treatment Program, roughly nine to eighteen months of weekly therapy, resolves each layer so people can leave personality-disordered partners and reach lasting self-love abundance.

Diana Romanov is a San Francisco family law attorney handling divorce, child custody, child and spousal support, domestic violence restraining orders, property division, and marital agreements. She offers advice and mediation in English, German, and Russian. She holds a family law JD from Freie Universität Berlin and an LLM in US Legal Studies from Golden Gate University School of Law, and received the Justice and Diversity Center's Outstanding Pro Bono Award for Family Law Cases. More about Diana:  https://www.romanovlaw.com/
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ABOUT ROSS ROSENBERG 
Ross Rosenberg, M.Ed., is a psychotherapist, educator, expert witness, and celebrated author. He is also a global thought leader and clinical expert in codependency, trauma, pathological narcissism, narcissistic abuse, and addictions.

Ross's pioneering contributions to codependency have provided sweeping theoretical and practical updates and developed a treatment program that permanently resolves the issue. Ross has been featured on national TV and radio and is a regular radio and podcast guest. 

In addition, he has traveled the world, giving his one-of-a-kind keynote presentations and educational workshops. His global impact is best illustrated by his YouTube channel, with 30 million views and 297,000 subscribers, and the sale of 190,000 Human Magnet Syndrome books published in 12 languages. In 2013, Ross created The Self-Love Recovery Institute, a hub for his personal development, workshops, professional training, retreats, other programs, and services.

Learn more at www.SelfLoveRecovery.com. 

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Ross Rosenberg talks with podcaster and author Luke Storey (The Life Stylist) about his journey from addiction to nearly 30 years of sobriety, and his upcoming memoir, A Horse Named Lonesome. Luke shares how childhood trauma and loneliness fueled his addictions, and how a mushroom ceremony revealed that writing the book was really about helping others heal. He and Ross connect Luke's idea of "disconnection" to Ross's theory of self-love deficit disorder, exploring how shame drives addiction and how self-love becomes protection against relapse. 
A Horse Named Lonesome comes out November 17 and is available for pre-order now; find more of Luke's work at lukestorey.com.
Luke Storey is a former celebrity fashion stylist turned biohacking pioneer and wellness educator, shaped by his own recovery from addiction. He hosts The Life Stylist, a weekly podcast launched in 2016 with over 700 episodes and 14 million downloads, covering biohacking, trauma healing, and consciousness. The show ranks among Apple Podcasts' top wellness programs, with guests including Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Dr. Joe Dispenza. 
For more information: https://www.lukestorey.com/
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ABOUT ROSS ROSENBERG 
Ross Rosenberg, M.Ed., is a psychotherapist, educator, expert witness, and celebrated author. He is also a global thought leader and clinical expert in codependency, trauma, pathological narcissism, narcissistic abuse, and addictions.

Ross's pioneering contributions to codependency have provided sweeping theoretical and practical updates and developed a treatment program that permanently resolves the issue. Ross has been featured on national TV and radio and is a regular radio and podcast guest. 

In addition, he has traveled the world, giving his one-of-a-kind keynote presentations and educational workshops. His global impact is best illustrated by his YouTube channel, with 30 million views and 297,000 subscribers, and the sale of 190,000 Human Magnet Syndrome books published in 12 languages. In 2013, Ross created The Self-Love Recovery Institute, a hub for his personal development, workshops, professional training, retreats, other programs, and services.

Learn more at www.SelfLoveRecovery.com. 

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Psychotherapist Ross Rosenberg explains why simply understanding a narcissist's behavior won't set you free — real change comes from recognizing your own role in the "human magnet syndrome," the opposite-attraction dynamic that draws codependents and narcissists together like a tango of leader and follower. 

Drawing on 37 years of clinical work and his own history with narcissists, Ross traces how childhood attachment trauma shapes both sides: the codependent who learns to please, and the narcissist whose personality disorder forms after trauma so severe it gets buried from conscious memory. 

Ross argues that acknowledging a narcissist's own trauma doesn't excuse their harm, and that healing means codependents owning their self-love deficit disorder rather than just blaming their partner.
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ABOUT ROSS ROSENBERG 
Ross Rosenberg, M.Ed., is a psychotherapist, educator, expert witness, and celebrated author. He is also a global thought leader and clinical expert in codependency, trauma, pathological narcissism, narcissistic abuse, and addictions.

Ross's pioneering contributions to codependency have provided sweeping theoretical and practical updates and developed a treatment program that permanently resolves the issue. Ross has been featured on national TV and radio and is a regular radio and podcast guest. 

In addition, he has traveled the world, giving his one-of-a-kind keynote presentations and educational workshops. His global impact is best illustrated by his YouTube channel, with 30 million views and 297,000 subscribers, and the sale of 190,000 Human Magnet Syndrome books published in 12 languages. In 2013, Ross created The Self-Love Recovery Institute, a hub for his personal development, workshops, professional training, retreats, other programs, and services.

Learn more at www.SelfLoveRecovery.com. 

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In this episode of the Self-Love Recovery Podcast, host Ross Rosenberg — psychotherapist and author of The Human Magnet Syndrome — makes the case that leaving a pathological narcissist isn't just a breakup; it's an addiction recovery process, complete with cravings, bargaining, and relapse. 
Drawing on both his clinical work and his own lived experience, he explains why the urge to return is driven by "pathological loneliness," a withdrawal symptom that reopens childhood core shame the relationship had been numbing, and why it typically lasts two to six months. 
Borrowing the "one day at a time" philosophy from twelve-step recovery, Rosenberg walks listeners through practical tools — shrinking the goal down to hours or even minutes when needed, riding out cravings like waves, naming the mind's manipulative bargaining for what it is, and building a support network instead of trying to white-knuckle recovery alone — all pointing toward what he calls "Self-Love Abundance," the point at which the narcissist's pull finally loses its power. 
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ABOUT ROSS ROSENBERG 
Ross Rosenberg, M.Ed., is a psychotherapist, educator, expert witness, and celebrated author. He is also a global thought leader and clinical expert in codependency, trauma, pathological narcissism, narcissistic abuse, and addictions.

Ross's pioneering contributions to codependency have provided sweeping theoretical and practical updates and developed a treatment program that permanently resolves the issue. Ross has been featured on national TV and radio and is a regular radio and podcast guest. 

In addition, he has traveled the world, giving his one-of-a-kind keynote presentations and educational workshops. His global impact is best illustrated by his YouTube channel, with 30 million views and 297,000 subscribers, and the sale of 190,000 Human Magnet Syndrome books published in 12 languages. In 2013, Ross created The Self-Love Recovery Institute, a hub for his personal development, workshops, professional training, retreats, other programs, and services.

Learn more at www.SelfLoveRecovery.com. 

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NEW FORMAT: Written and produced by Ross — from script to screen.

Why does leaving a toxic relationship sometimes hurt more than staying? In this video, we explore "healing pain" — the intense wave of loneliness, self-doubt, and grief that often follows escaping a dysfunctional relationship or family. 

Like recovering from surgery, the pain that comes after leaving isn't proof you made the wrong choice; it's evidence that healing has already begun. 

Learn why pathological loneliness keeps so many people trapped, how healing pain lies to you about your future, and the simple daily practice that can carry you through the worst of it to the other side: a life built on self-love, self-respect, and safety. The loneliness was never the destination — it was the recovery room.
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ABOUT ROSS ROSENBERG 
Ross Rosenberg, M.Ed., is a psychotherapist, educator, expert witness, and celebrated author. He is also a global thought leader and clinical expert in codependency, trauma, pathological narcissism, narcissistic abuse, and addictions.

Ross's pioneering contributions to codependency have provided sweeping theoretical and practical updates and developed a treatment program that permanently resolves the issue. Ross has been featured on national TV and radio and is a regular radio and podcast guest. 

In addition, he has traveled the world, giving his one-of-a-kind keynote presentations and educational workshops. His global impact is best illustrated by his YouTube channel, with 30 million views and 297,000 subscribers, and the sale of 190,000 Human Magnet Syndrome books published in 12 languages. In 2013, Ross created The Self-Love Recovery Institute, a hub for his personal development, workshops, professional training, retreats, other programs, and services.

Learn more at www.SelfLoveRecovery.com. 

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Instagram (@rossrosenberg_slri) 
Twitter (@RossRosenberg1) 
and now…TikTok! (@RossRosenberg1)