The Psychedelic Podcast connects you to the leaders and pioneers of the psychedelic renaissance.
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Norman Ohler - LSD's Secret History: From Swiss Labs to Government Control
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes New York Times bestselling author Norman Ohler. Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-297/?ref=278 Norman shares his deep research into the hidden history of LSD, revealing the untold connections between Arthur Stoll (CEO of Sandoz), Nazi Germany, and the CIA's MKUltra program. He explains how LSD's development as a mental health medicine was derailed by intelligence agencies seeking a "truth drug" for interrogations, and how the substance traveled from Swiss laboratories to Nazi concentration camps and eventually to American universities. Norman also discusses his personal connection to psychedelics through his mother's Alzheimer's treatment with microdosing, and offers thoughtful reflections on the current psychedelic renaissance. Norman Ohler is one of Germany's best living writers: a New York Times Bestselling author, translated into over 30 languages. His books include "Blitzed", "The Bohemians", and "Tripped". He has 2 children and lives in Berlin. Highlights: Welcome & introduction Who is Arthur Stoll, the grandfather of psychedelics? The Nazi Germany and LSD connection Albert Hoffman's complicated relationship with LSD The pharmaceutical politics behind psychedelic suppression Reflections on the modern psychedelic renaissance The challenges of psychedelics in a globalized society From "Blitzed" to "Tripped": Norman's research journey Norman's personal connection: Microdosing for Alzheimer's The mysterious story of JFK and LSD Episode Links: Website Instagram: @normanohler Norman’s book "Tripped: Nazi Germany, the CIA and the Dawn of the Psychedelic Age" Norman’s previous book "Blitzed: Drugs in the Third Reich" Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" by William Shirer These show links may contain affiliate links. Third Wave receives a small percentage of the product price if you purchase through the above affiliate links.
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Tracy Townsend, M.D. - Legal Psilocybin Frontlines: A Physician's Perspective
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Tracy Townsend, a Harvard-trained physician who left orthopedic surgery to become a licensed psilocybin facilitator in Oregon. Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-296/?ref=278 Dr. Townsend shares her journey from conventional medicine to psychedelic facilitation, describing how her own transformative experiences with plant medicines led her to question the limitations of Western healthcare. She discusses the Oregon psilocybin model, challenges within the current regulatory framework, and draws fascinating parallels between physical surgery and the "mind surgery" of psychedelic experiences. Dr. Townsend also explores emerging research on psychedelics for autoimmune conditions and shares her hopes for policy changes that could expand access to these powerful healing modalities. Dr. Tracy Townsend is a Harvard trained medical doctor, licensed psilocybin facilitator, and vitality coach. She has an undergraduate degree in biochemistry, as well as a medical degree, both from the University of Virginia. She completed orthopedic surgical training at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center in Los Angeles, CA and a fellowship in pediatric orthopedic surgery at Boston Children's Hospital of Harvard University. She is a graduate of the Innertrek Psilocybin Facilitator training program. After personally experiencing transformative healing with psychedelic medicines, Tracy went on to become the Co-Founder and CEO of Project Circle, a legal psilocybin service center and practice based in Portland, Oregon. Highlights: From surgeon to psychedelic facilitator: Tracy's journey The parallels between surgery and psychedelic "mind surgery" Navigating Oregon's legal psilocybin framework Addressing necessary regulatory improvements Psychedelics and psychiatric medications The mind-body connection in autoimmune healing Hope for psychedelic policy under new HHS leadership
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Ava Johanna - Breathwork as Medicine: Building a Purpose-Driven Coaching Business
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Ava Johanna, founder and CEO of The Academy of Breath. Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-295/?ref=278 Ava shares her journey from corporate burnout and weekend escapism to discovering breathwork as a powerful, accessible tool for transformation. She discusses how breathwork provided the same ecstatic states she once sought through substances, but in a healing, sustainable way. Beyond the practice itself, Ava offers valuable insights for coaches and practitioners looking to build successful businesses in the wellness space, emphasizing the importance of creating "bulletproof offers," trauma-aware sales approaches, and exceptional client experiences. Ava Johanna is the author of upcoming book, Your Vision Board Life, set to be released in April 2025 and the founder and CEO of The Academy of Breath™ an online education brand for entrepreneurs and coaches bridging the gap between neuroscience and spirituality in the realm of breathwork and meditation. After working with brands like Yoga Journal, Mindbodygreen and Wanderlust, Ava built The Academy of Breath™ that has now certified over 700 students across the globe. Blending science, mysticism and business, The Academy of Breath™ is blazing a trail in the breathwork industry making the practices more accessible than ever before while providing teachers with the tools to be able to lead with integrity, make a global impact, and safely facilitate lasting transformation in their client's lives. Highlights: Corporate burnout to breathwork: Ava's transformational journey How breathwork creates substance-free ecstatic states Building a sustainable coaching business: from 0 to 100K Creating "bulletproof offers" that can't be commoditized Trauma-aware sales approaches for wellness practitioners The power of exceptional client experiences Transitioning from hourly sessions to value-based packages Breathwork as an accessible gateway to spiritual connection Trusting your intuition as an entrepreneur Episode Links: Website Academy of Breath Ava on Instagram Icons with Ava Johanna Podcast Pre-order Ava Johanna's Book These show links may contain affiliate links. Third Wave receives a small percentage of the product price if you purchase through the above affiliate links. Episode Sponsor: The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
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Austin Perlmutter, M.D. - Unsticking the Brain: Psychedelics, Inflammation, and Mental Health
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul welcomes Dr. Austin Perlmutter, a board-certified internal medicine physician, New York Times bestselling author, and researcher. Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-294/?ref=278 Dr. Perlmutter shares his perspective on how psychedelics can help "unstick" the brain from harmful patterns, explores the relationship between inflammation and mental health, and discusses his current research on ayahuasca's effects on epigenetics and the microbiome. From understanding the biological basis of our mental states to finding balance in a modern world that often works against our wellbeing, this conversation offers valuable insights on integrating psychedelics with healthy lifestyle practices for optimal brain function and mental health. Dr. Austin Perlmutter is a board-certified internal medicine physician, New York Times bestselling author, published researcher and international educator. His mission is to help people improve their health by targeting the biological basis of "stuckness" in our brains and bodies. His writing, presentations, podcasts, and online educational programs have reached millions. Dr. Perlmutter has been featured on PBS, Rolling Stone, Newsweek, NPR and other media outlets. He is a co-producer of the Alzheimer's, the Science of Prevention series, and host of the Better Brain Blueprint series. Dr. Perlmutter currently serves as the managing director at Big Bold Health, a food-as-medicine company where he published a pioneering study on plant nutrients and human aging through epigenetics. He also consults with the Helfgott Research Institute, researching the effects of ayahuasca on epigenetics, metabolism, microbiome and immune function. Highlights: The biology of mental health and decision-making Inflammation's crucial role in brain function How psychedelics create perspective shifts Balancing psychedelic use with lifestyle practices Breaking the cycle of chronic inflammation Understanding the autonomic nervous system's response The microbiome's connection to brain health Research on ayahuasca's epigenetic effects The importance of post-psychedelic environments Moving beyond the "psychedelic as panacea" mindset Episode Sponsors: The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
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Nick Musica - SEO to ESP: Psychedelics, Pattern Recognition & Animal Telepathy
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Nick Musica, founder and CEO of Optics In and psychic animal communicator. Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-293/?ref=278 Nick shares his fascinating journey from SEO expert to animal communicator, bridging the worlds of technical analysis and spiritual connection. He discusses how plant medicine experiences and meditation opened channels of communication with animals, particularly through his relationship with his cat Chucky. The conversation explores the intersection of consciousness, communication, and how animals can serve as profound teachers in our lives. Nick also offers insights into the evolving landscape of SEO in the age of AI, drawing parallels between pattern recognition in both digital and spiritual realms. Nick Musica is an SEO expert, plant medicine enthusiast & psychic animal communicator. He had his first psychic and psychedelic experiences in his early 20s, twenties, though it would take nearly 25 years for these experiences to resurface. In fact, much of his adult life was what most people would consider "normal". This changed when Nick began exploring consciousness through plant medicine and work with a spiritual teacher. The connection that opened continued to grow and evolve. After visiting a psychic medium who told him he would communicate with animals and that it would be easy, Nick discovered - following a few false starts - that she was right. Today, Nick communicates with other people's animals and helps individuals develop their own intuitive gifts. Highlights: The DMV.org Story: Building and Losing a Digital Empire From SEO Expert to Animal Whisperer: A Transformational Journey How San Pedro Medicine Opened New Channels of Perception Understanding Mixed Signals: Why Animals Mirror Our Energy The Profound Teacher-Student Dynamic with Cats Dolphins and Family Bonds: Insights from Cabo Practical Steps for Developing Animal Communication The Hidden Language: Reading Beyond Animal Behavior Episode Sponsors: The Practitioner Certification Program by Third Wave’s Psychedelic Coaching Institute.
The Psychedelic Podcast connects you to the leaders and pioneers of the psychedelic renaissance.
From deep healing to creativity, leadership to spirituality, business, health, human performance, relationships, sexuality, and even culture itself—every aspect of our world is being transformed by psychedelic medicines.
Get an inspired, informed, balanced look into how these powerful medicines are already being safely and responsibly used to catalyze both personal and collective transformation.
Whether you’re just curious or a seasoned psychonaut, or somewhere in between, you’ll get insightful, practical, cutting-edge conversations from the forefront of the psychedelic movement.
Join us as we explore how psychedelics can be integrated into culture for the evolution of humanity.
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