The Stacking Benjamins Show

Live from Joe's mom's basement (complete with dog mugs, birthday roasting, and Doug polishing his trivia crown), the crew tackles a headline that caught plenty of attention. Suze Orman backing off her long held stance that everyone should work until age 70.

Does that mean you shouldn't work longer? Not exactly.

Joe Saul-Sehy, OG, Doug, and special guest Len Penzo break down the math behind working into your late 60s or beyond. More years to save, more compounding, fewer years drawing down assets. It's powerful stuff. But they also remind Stackers that work doesn't have to mean the same grind, and that retiring and claiming Social Security are two completely separate decisions.

Len shares why he plans to delay Social Security until 70, walks through the break even math versus claiming at 62, and highlights the importance of survivor benefits for spouses. At the same time, the crew emphasizes that health, longevity expectations, and personal priorities can completely change the right answer.

Suze's updated advice leans heavily on stress testing your retirement plan, and that's where the basement really digs in. What happens if inflation sticks around? If your side hustle disappears? If returns are lower than expected? The team argues that instead of chasing the perfect retirement date, you should solve for flexibility. Avoid analysis paralysis but don't skip the planning either.

They also debate liquidity (hint: it doesn't mean stuffing your mattress with cash), share a cautionary tale about delayed IRA access, and remind listeners that logistics matter just as much as spreadsheets.

In the TikTok Minute, a retiree reframes time as priceless instead of something to maximize. That sparks a thoughtful conversation about identity in retirement, the adjustment period after leaving work, and what makes life satisfying once the paycheck stops.

Plus: A big community win as a fellow Stacker crosses the $1 million net worth milestone, stats on how common that really is, upcoming Stackers meetups, Doug's Gutenberg themed trivia, and unexpected retirement expenses involving squirrels and BarkBox. Because this is the basement, after all.

What You'll Learn:

• Why working longer can strengthen your retirement math and when it might not

• The difference between retiring and claiming Social Security

• How to think about Social Security timing, longevity, and survivor benefits

• What it means to stress test your retirement plan

• Why flexibility often beats perfect optimization

• The real meaning of liquidity and why too much idle cash can hurt efficiency

• How retirement success is often about time, not just money

• Why identity shifts matter just as much as account balances

The Big Takeaway:

Retirement doesn't require working forever. But it does require a coordinated plan, one that brings together your assets, Social Security strategy, spending flexibility, and (most importantly) how you want to spend your time. Because in the end, money is renewable. Time isn't.

This Episode Is For You If:

• You've been told to work to 70 and aren't sure if that's right for you

• You're trying to figure out when to claim Social Security

• You want to stress test your retirement plan but don't know where to start

• You're worried about the adjustment period after leaving work

• You believe retirement planning is about more than just hitting a number

Question for You:

If you could retire tomorrow, what would you spend more time doing, and what would you happily leave behind? Share your thoughts in the Spotify comments or The Basement Facebook group. Your answer might inspire another Stacker who's quietly wondering the same thing.

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Want your kids to grow into confident money decision-makers without turning every dinner conversation into a financial lecture? In this roundtable episode, Joe sits down with Livia (“Liv”) Roder, host of the Liv Lab Podcast, Karen Holland of GiftingSense.org, and John Lanza, host of the Art of Allowance Podcast to explore what actually helps kids understand money before the stakes get big.

Instead of theory, this discussion focuses on real moments when money suddenly becomes real: college price tags, house-hunting sticker shock, allowances that run out too fast, and purchases that teach better lessons than any lecture ever could. The panel shares practical ways families can build financial confidence through everyday decisions, honest conversations, and a willingness to let kids learn by doing.

What the Stacking Benjamins “Confident Explorer” will gain from this episode:


How to talk about money naturally so kids see it as a life skill, not a stressful taboo topic


Why modeling everyday behavior matters more than formal “money talks”


A simple shift from “Can I have it?” to “Is it worth it?” that builds independent thinking


How small spending mistakes become powerful teaching moments when handled without shame


Ways to introduce big topics like college costs gradually so kids feel informed instead of overwhelmed

Real-life money lessons that sparked the conversation:


Livia’s moments when money suddenly felt real, from college forms to realizing savings aren’t just “bank numbers”


Karen Holland’s memorable eighth-grade back-to-school budget experiment


Early allowance experiences that helped connect choices with consequences


Why kids absorb far more from overheard conversations and daily habits than parents expect

Practical strategies parents can use right away:


Starting with simple allowance systems or “jars” to visualize spending, saving, and giving


Karen’s “Does It Make Sense?” pause to slow impulsive purchases


Joe’s “circle back” technique, revisiting purchases later to reflect without criticism


Letting kids fail safely so regret becomes learning instead of embarrassment


Helping kids split costs or contribute toward purchases to create ownership

Navigating tougher parenting questions:


Should kids see financial stress, or should parents shield them?


How to practice age-appropriate honesty without creating anxiety


Why financial jargon like FAFSA or taxes can unintentionally intimidate teens


Bringing kids into real financial conversations so they build confidence early

Money challenges unique to today’s kids:


Teaching spending awareness in a tap-to-pay, frictionless world


Cash vs. cards vs. apps and how each changes behavior


Building a “pause habit” before spending when transactions feel invisible

If you could teach just one money skill…

The panel compares their top priorities:


Awareness of cash flow and where money actually goes


Thinking before buying instead of reacting emotionally


Paying yourself first and building saving habits early

Plus, a little basement fun along the way:


Favorite purchases that truly felt worth it (from snowboards to board games to a Kindle)


Stories that prove money lessons stick best when tied to real experiences


Resources and next steps from each guest, including tools, calculators, and upcoming episodes

This episode reinforces a core Stacking Benjamins idea: kids don’t learn money through perfect decisions. They learn through guided experience, honest conversations, and the freedom to practice while the stakes are still small.

FULL SHOW NOTES: https://stackingbenjamins.com/how-to-teach-your-kids-about-money-1806

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Live from Joe's mom's basement (where receipts go to be judged and spreadsheets fear OG), this episode tackles two big questions Stackers are asking right now. What's the best tax software for filing your 2025 return? And what should normal, long term investors make of gold, silver, and crypto taking a wild ride?

Joe Saul-Sehy and OG are joined by Robert Farrington from The College Investor to break down the tax software landscape without the marketing fluff. Because if you're our Stacker avatar, you don't want hype. You want something that works, doesn't overcharge you, and doesn't suddenly upsell you because you clicked the wrong box.

Then in the headline segment, the crew digs into the sharp pullback in precious metals and crypto. Is this the beginning of something bigger? A buying opportunity? Or just another reminder that chasing shiny objects (literally shiny in gold's case) can make your portfolio feel like a roller coaster?

As always, Doug brings trivia, there's some basement banter, and the team separates smart strategy from financial fashion trends.

Choosing the Right Tax Software (Without Overpaying):

• Why FreeTaxUSA might be the best overall value for most Stackers

• When TurboTax or H&R Block make sense and when you're just paying for bells and whistles

• The pros and limitations of truly free options like Cash App Taxes and Chime

• Why TaxSlayer can be a solid choice for student loan borrowers, landlords, and side hustlers

• What investors and crypto traders need to know about brokerage imports and the new 1099-DA form

• Why filing taxes is mostly data entry and where real tax planning can make a difference

• Simple tools to track mileage, expenses, and side hustle income without losing your mind

Bottom line: the best software isn't universal. It's the one that fits your situation without surprise fees.

Gold, Silver, and Crypto: What the Drop Means:

• Why assets without earnings (like gold and many cryptocurrencies) can swing wildly

• The danger of investing based on FOMO instead of a plan

• How concentration risk increases the range of possible outcomes, both good and bad

• Why short term volatility doesn't automatically change a long term strategy

• The risks of misinformation, including AI generated financial advice that isn't real

OG walks through how disciplined investors think during volatile moments: zoom out, revisit your allocation, and stick to your strategy instead of reacting emotionally.

The Big Takeaway:

Whether you're picking tax software or deciding what to do during a market drop, the lesson is the same. Choose tools that fit your life. Build a plan before the chaos hits. Don't let headlines or shiny objects hijack your strategy.

This Episode Is For You If:

• You're trying to pick tax software without getting ripped off

• Markets are making you nervous and you're not sure if you should do something

• You want to understand what's happening with gold and crypto without the hype

• You're looking for calm, practical guidance during a chaotic time

• You believe steady wealth beats chasing shiny things

Let's Hear From You:

What tax software are you using this year and why? When markets get volatile, what helps you stay disciplined? Share your thoughts in the Spotify comments or The Basement Facebook group. Your experience might help another Stacker avoid an expensive mistake.

FULL SHOW NOTES: https://stackingbenjamins.com/the-best-tax-software-2026-robert-farrington-1805

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Think building seven figure wealth requires exotic investments or perfect timing? This President's Day episode from Joe's mom's basement tells a very different story.

Joe Saul-Sehy, OG, and Neighbor Doug dig into a Kiplinger My First Million case study featuring a Wisconsin couple who started saving at age 32 with exactly zero invested and quietly built $2 million over the next 22 years using mostly retirement accounts and steady habits. Their success sparks a bigger conversation about why simple strategies often outperform complicated ones, and how surviving the boring middle is where wealth is created.

Along the way, the gang tackles advisor fees, the psychology of enough, long term care decisions, and the real value financial professionals can bring. Of course, it wouldn't be a basement episode without trivia, community wins, and a few unexpected detours (including a conversation about giant toilet paper rolls that somehow reinforces the episode's central theme).

What You'll Take Away:

• Why ordinary retirement accounts (401(k)s, SEP IRAs, and Roth IRAs) can be enough to build significant wealth without chasing complex investments

• How starting with just enough to earn the employer match creates momentum without overwhelming new savers

• A simple escalation strategy: increasing contributions by 1% each year to grow savings almost painlessly

• The often missed detail of contributing through the final paycheck to capture the full employer match

• A creative gamification approach to Roth contributions tied to the Social Security wage base

• How reframing long goals into months instead of years helps investors stay motivated during the long, quiet middle stretch

• Why imperfect plans with higher fees can still beat waiting for the perfect investing setup

• The real concerns people have about trusting workplace retirement plans and how those plans actually function

• Lessons the featured couple learned, including the value of post tax flexibility later in life

• Long term care planning as risk management, including balancing insurance coverage with self funding strategies

Big Behavioral Conversations:

• A TikTok minute featuring Dr. John Delony sparks a discussion about defining enough and whether chasing more success is driven by purpose or ego

• How redefining success can shift financial decisions more than any spreadsheet ever will

• The danger of constantly moving financial goalposts once progress begins

Listener Mailbag: When Is a 1% Advisor Fee Worth It?

OG walks through how to evaluate an advisor relationship beyond performance numbers, including whether your advisor helps you make money or avoid costly mistakes, the value of saved time and reduced stress, planning continuity for spouses or heirs, typical fee structures, and how to have an honest fee conversation without damaging a long standing relationship.

This Episode Is For You If:

• You're behind on saving and worried you've missed your window

• You feel like wealth building requires strategies you don't understand

• You want proof that simple plans work if you stick with them

• You're wondering if your advisor's fee is worth it or if you should manage it yourself

• You need reassurance that boring and consistent beats exciting and complicated

This episode is a reminder that wealth rarely comes from brilliance or shortcuts. More often, it comes from steady decisions repeated consistently while everyone else searches for something more exciting.

FULL SHOW NOTES: https://stackingbenjamins.com/how-to-make-a-million-after-starting-late-1804

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Nothing says romance like a heated debate about the 4% rule.

Live from the basement (which suspiciously resembles YouTube headquarters), Joe Saul-Sehy, OG, Neighbor Doug, and the panel celebrate Valentine's Day weekend the only way Stackers know how: by putting their favorite financial ideas on the hot seat.

This isn't a polite discussion. It's a rapid fire "love it or leave it" showdown where popular money strategies either get roses or get shown the door.

On the chopping block:

Paying off a low interest mortgage early: financial freedom or opportunity cost disaster?

The FIRE movement: empowering clarity or accidental misery?

Lifestyle inflation: natural evolution or silent wealth killer?

Real estate as passive income: dream scenario or second job in disguise?

The 4% rule: reliable rule of thumb or outdated security blanket?

Budgeting apps: behavior changer or digital guilt machine?

Expect strong opinions. Expect pushback. Expect OG to bring spreadsheets to a knife fight. Expect Doug to stir the pot. And expect at least one take that makes you argue out loud in your car.

Along the way, the crew swaps Valentine's Day plans, reviews survey results from listeners, and throws down in a trivia challenge that could shake up the leaderboard. With margin call rules in play, nobody's position is safe.

What You'll Discover:

Which popular financial strategies hold up under scrutiny and which ones deserve a breakup

Why smart people disagree about mortgage payoff strategies

Whether the FIRE movement creates freedom or just different problems

The truth about lifestyle inflation and when it's okay versus when it's dangerous

Why real estate investing is rarely as passive as it sounds

Whether the 4% rule still works or needs serious revision

If budgeting apps actually help or just make you feel guilty

How to question your own financial assumptions without second guessing everything

This Episode Is For You If:

You want to understand WHY you believe what you believe about money

You're tired of one-size-fits-all financial advice

You enjoy hearing smart people debate and disagree respectfully

You've been following certain money rules without questioning if they fit YOUR life

You believe the most loving thing you can do for your financial plan is challenge it

This episode is for anyone who doesn't just want answers but wants to understand the thinking behind them. Because sometimes the most loving thing you can do for your financial plan is break up with strategies that aren't serving you anymore.

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