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At Work with The Ready

Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin
At Work with The Ready
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  • At Work with The Ready

    AUA: How Do You Tell Leadership The Truth Without Getting Fired?

    06/07/2026 | 7 mins.
    You can see it clearly: the project is FUBAR, the reporting is rosy, and the people with the power to do something about it are several levels above you. But sending a flare up the chain feels risky—especially when your boss's boss's boss is the one you need to reach. So what do you actually do?

    In this mini episode, Rodney and Sam respond to a listener stuck in that exact spot and offer a few moves that don't involve career-ending emails or anonymous screeds nailed to the CEO's door, and explore whether you can quietly reshape the data story being told upstream in a way that's helpful rather than accusatory.

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  • At Work with The Ready

    51. It's Time, Babe: How to Know When to Leave Your Job

    29/06/2026 | 52 mins.
    Everyone tells you leaving a job is a math problem: runway, comp, the next offer, the spreadsheet that finally tips. But most people who ask "how do I know when it's time?" have already answered the question. They just haven't let themselves hear it yet.

    In this episode, Rodney and Sam get personal, both are in the middle of their own transitions, and unpack what it actually takes to leave well. They dig into the difference between the best days, the worst days, and the average day that actually tells you the truth; why your body tends to figure it out long before your brain does; and why leaving of your own volition is often better for your mental health than running out the clock.

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    Mentioned references:

    Sky and Midnight Zones

    "layoffs episode": BNW Ep. 152

    EOT (Employee-Owned Trust)

    "ways of working episode": AWWTR Ep. 50

    Dual Transformation: AWWTR Ep. 43

    "Gareth": BNW Ep. 5 with Dr. Gareth Holman

    FIRE (Financially Independent, Retire Early)

    "10% of Americans don't have enough food"

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    AUA: How Do You Make Employee Ownership Actually Feel Real?

    22/06/2026 | 8 mins.
    Plenty of companies make the move to employee ownership—ESOPs, EOTs, buyouts—and then wonder why nothing really changes. The shares transfer, the announcement goes out, and then... people still feel like employees. The ownership is technically there, but the culture hasn't caught up.

    In this mini episode, Rodney and Sam respond to a listener who's seen this gap firsthand and wants to know which parts of the operating system to examine first. Drawing heavily from The Ready's own experience as an EOT, Rodney and Sam make the case that ownership culture lives in three places most companies underinvest in and why checks and balances between long-term purpose and short-term operations are the structural move that makes distributed power meaningful.

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    Mentioned references:

    ESOP (Employee Stock Ownership Plan)

    EOT (Employee Owned Trust)

    The Ready's EOT transition

    The Ready's OS Canvas

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  • At Work with The Ready

    50. The Ways of Working Movement Failed. Now What?

    15/06/2026 | 51 mins.
    Fifteen years ago, the future of work seemed inevitable: bureaucracy was crumbling, adaptive organizations were the next default, and a whole movement of practitioners was going to get us there. That future never arrived. Agile transformation offices are being eliminated, the pendulum has swung hard back to command-and-control, and the companies we held up as proof are still the exceptions, not the rule.

    This week, Rodney and Sam take an honest look at the failure of the ways of working movement, including their own part in it. They dig into the mismatches that doomed so much of this work and get practical about what still works—because while the movement may have stalled, the moves still matter.

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    Mentioned references:

    Bradlees

    Twilight and Sunshine Zone

    Buurtzorg

    Morning Star: BNW Ep. 54 with Doug Kirkpatrick

    Haier

    "Bayer under Bill": BNW Ep. 68 with Bill Anderson

    Mary Parker Follett

    org debt: FOHR Miniseries

    action meeting: BNW Ep. 80

    strategy stack: AWWTR EP. 2

    op rhythm: BNW Ep. 118

    00:00 Intro + Check-in: Your first music purchase with your own money?
    05:18 The failure of the new ways of working movement
    07:54 What we mean by "failure"
    11:08 ZIRP, COVID, and the swing back to command-and-control
    15:27 What people will buy isn’t actually what they need
    17:30 Selling Sunshine Zone products for Twilight Zone work
    20:12 Bottoms-up to a fault
    25:01 Nobody has capacity to learn anymore
    28:11 Tennis vs. golf: the new consulting posture
    35:23 Is local change worth it?
    38:42 Failure of the movement, not the moves
    40:34 Change #1 - Go deeper
    42:49 Change #2 - Orient to the outcome
    44:47 Change #3 - Branching roadmaps and scenario planning
    46:15 Change #4 - Build organizations that benefit from change
    49:15 The End

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    AUA: Is Real Change Possible Inside Federal Bureaucracy?

    08/06/2026 | 7 mins.
    Most of the conversation about the future of work is aimed squarely at the corporate sector—growth engines, dual transformation, quarterly targets. But what if your organization exists to regulate, administer, and serve the public? What if the purpose isn't changing, and innovation of the underlying mission isn't really on the table?

    In this mini episode, Rodney and Sam respond to an internal consultant at a large federal agency who's wondering how much of the podcast's advice actually translates to their world. The answer: more than you'd think.

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    Mentioned references:

    The Ready's OS Canvas

    "Dual Transformation episode": AWWTR Ep. 43

    "org debt"

    "user centered design": AWWTR Ep 42, Skill 2

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About At Work with The Ready
Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin have helped teams around the world adopt more modern ways of working and on At Work with The Ready they’re sharing the inside scoop with you, too. Whether you’re struggling with a carousel of ineffective meetings, annual strategy sessions that go nowhere, or decision-making churn that never ceases, they’ve seen it all and are here to help. In each episode, they'll break down common workplace challenges and show you the moves—both big and small—to start making real, lasting change. (Formerly “Brave New Work” with Aaron Dignan and Rodney Evans)
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