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Finding Financial Freedom with The Frugal Physician - Finance, Wellness, Budget, Student Loans, Wealth, Doctor, Fitness, Money

Dr. Disha Spath, MD, FACP
Finding Financial Freedom with The Frugal Physician - Finance, Wellness, Budget, Student Loans, Wealth, Doctor, Fitness, Money
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  • Ep112: Turning Fear into Financial Freedom: Dr. Elaine Stageberg on Building Passive Income
    In this inspiring episode of Finding Financial Freedom, host Dr. Disha Spath sits down with Dr. Elaine Stageberg, co-owner and principal of Black Swan Real Estate, to explore how she turned one rental property into a half-billion-dollar real estate empire—all while raising five kids and maintaining a career in psychiatry. Dr. Elaine’s journey from a difficult childhood marked by financial instability to becoming a leading real estate investor is a testament to resilience, intention, and the power of mindset. Together with her husband, she built Black Swan Real Estate, a diversified portfolio with over 2,000 doors and nearly $500 million in assets. Tune in as Dr. Elaine shares how she overcame scarcity thinking, leaned into fear, and built financial freedom through strategic investing. Key Topics Covered: 1. Overcoming Adversity and Finding Purpose Elaine’s early life shaped by financial scarcity and addiction in her family. The role of love and stability in the midst of chaos—and how it formed her values today. 2. From Medicine to Mindset Why Elaine chose psychiatry and how her background influenced her specialty. The importance of paying it forward and mentoring others. 3. The Accidental Landlord Story How an underwater mortgage led Elaine and Nick to rent out their first home. What she learned about property management, cash flow, and providing housing. Discovering the joy and purpose of real estate beyond spreadsheets. 4. Building Black Swan Real Estate Their first intentional investment: turning a vacant, foreclosed home into a thriving rental. The philosophy behind building value and creating “sacred work” through housing. 5. Mindset, Marriage, and Money Why Elaine says there’s never a “perfect time” to start investing—only the courage to begin. How facing fear and uncertainty became their superpower for growth. 6. Introducing the Secure Freedom Fund How investors can partner with Black Swan Real Estate through the Secure Freedom Fund. Earn a 10% fixed rate of return through institutional-quality real estate investments. Listener Takeaways: Lean into fear—growth happens outside your comfort zone. Real estate can be sacred work that provides both purpose and profit. Adversity can be a foundation for resilience and success. Start before you’re ready—there’s never a perfect time to invest. Financial freedom is not just about money but about designing life on your terms. Resources Mentioned: Black Swan Real Estate Secure Freedom Fund Connect with Us: Host: Dr. Disha Spath, The Frugal Physician Guest: Dr. Elaine Stageberg – Co-Owner & Principal, Black Swan Real Estate   This episode is brought to you by Black Swan Real Estate, led by physician-investor Dr. Elaine Stageberg.  Dr. Stageberg, a Mayo Clinic–trained physician, together with her husband Nick, has spent years building Black Swan Real Estate into a diversified, large-scale portfolio now approaching half a billion dollars across 2,000 doors.  Now, through their Secure Freedom Fund, a 10% fixed rate of return offering, you can invest alongside them. The Secure Freedom Fund offers institutional-quality real estate opportunities—designed to deliver strong cash flow, long-term growth, and remarkable tax advantages.  This fund is uniquely structured so that each investor can tailor it to their own individual goals: a minimum investment of just $25,000, the ability to choose monthly cashflow distributions or to elect the compounding option for higher overall growth, the option to exit the fund on your timing, the flexibility to invest in your personal name, a trust, an LLC, or a retirement account, and so much more.  If you’re an accredited investor who’s ready to diversify beyond Wall Street and invest with experienced, trust worthy operators who’ve been exactly where you are, visit SecureFreedomFund.com today to learn more. From there, you can review the slides, watch the webinar, and even a book a call directly 1:1 with Dr. Elaine Stageberg.  That’s SecureFreedomFund.com.
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  • Ep111: Medical Student Debt after OBBB: RAP Rules, PSLF Updates, and Refi Strategy
    Big changes are here for student loans—and if you’re a doctor, student, or high-debt professional, this episode could save you thousands. Dr. Disha Spath sits down with Aaron Smith, co-founder of Savi and longtime student loan policy advocate, to break down the One Big Beautiful Bill Act and what it really means for your financial future. Aaron has worked with the Department of Education, Congress, and the White House—and he’s carried student debt himself. Together, he and Dr. Disha unravel the brand-new Repayment Assistance Plan (RAP), the elimination of Grad PLUS loans, and how these reforms reshape repayment strategies, PSLF, and refinancing decisions. Key Topics Covered: 1. The Big Beautiful Bill, Simplified What’s changing in federal student loan repayment. Which repayment plans are gone, and the details behind RAP. 2. RAP vs. Current Plans Why RAP bases payments on gross income. Why locking into an income-driven repayment plan before 2026 could be a smart move. 3. PSLF Stays Strong  The good news: PSLF wasn’t touched by the new law. How to avoid errors with employer certification and payment tracking. 4. Goodbye Grad PLUS Loans How cutting Grad PLUS reshapes graduate and medical school financing. What rising reliance on private loans means for lower-income students. 5. Smart Moves for Current Borrowers How to maximize forgiveness and avoid costly mistakes. Critical timelines for choosing your repayment plan. 6. Should You Refinance? When private refinancing could save you money—and when it locks you out of forgiveness forever. What falling interest rates might mean for borrowers in 2025–2026. 7. Employer Support & Advocacy How hospitals, universities, and employers are stepping up with student loan benefits. Why employer advocacy is helping expand PSLF eligibility. Listener Takeaways: Act before July 2026: Enroll in an income-driven plan now to keep your options open. PSLF is safe—but annual employer certification is key to avoiding lost credits. Future grad students beware: With Grad PLUS gone, private loans will change the game. Refinancing is final: weigh lower interest rates against losing federal protections. Stay plugged in—loan policy is shifting fast, and being proactive could save you years of payments. Resources Mentioned: Black Swan Real Estate Savi Student Loan Platform Secure Freedom Fund U.S. Department of Education PSLF Help Tool Connect with Us: Host: Dr. Disha Spath, The Frugal Physician Guest: Aaron Smith, Co-Founder of Savi   This episode is brought to you by Black Swan Real Estate, led by physician-investor Dr. Elaine Stageberg.  Dr. Stageberg, a Mayo Clinic–trained physician, together with her husband Nick, has spent years building Black Swan Real Estate into a diversified, large-scale portfolio now approaching half a billion dollars across 2,000 doors.  Now, through their Secure Freedom Fund, a 10% fixed rate of return offering, you can invest alongside them. The Secure Freedom Fund offers institutional-quality real estate opportunities—designed to deliver strong cash flow, long-term growth, and remarkable tax advantages.  This fund is uniquely structured so that each investor can tailor it to their own individual goals: a minimum investment of just $25,000, the ability to choose monthly cashflow distributions or to elect the compounding option for higher overall growth, the option to exit the fund on your timing, the flexibility to invest in your personal name, a trust, an LLC, or a retirement account, and so much more.  If you’re an accredited investor who’s ready to diversify beyond Wall Street and invest with experienced, trust worthy operators who’ve been exactly where you are, visit SecureFreedomFund.com today to learn more. From there, you can review the slides, watch the webinar, and even a book a call directly 1:1 with Dr. Elaine Stageberg.  That’s SecureFreedomFund.com.
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  • Ep110: How to Start a Physician-Owned MSO for Direct Primary Care: Legal Guardrails, Employer Contracts & Growth Tips with Dr. Natalie Gentile
    Most physicians dream of independence but dread the isolation and heavy lift of running a solo practice. What if there were a way to share infrastructure, lighten the load, and still maintain your autonomy? In this episode, Dr. Disha Spath sits down with special interviewer Dr. Dan Sooriabalan and guest Dr. Natalie Gentile to explore how managed services organizations (MSOs) can strengthen direct primary care practices. From sharing cross-coverage to negotiating employer contracts, she shares how she and her partner built a collaborative model that supports physicians while keeping patient care personal.  This conversation is packed with lessons on leadership, partnership, and building something bigger than yourself! Key Topics Covered: 1. The Hidden Price of 401K Breaking down what a managed services organization is and why it matters for direct primary care. 2. From Vaccine Clinics to Direct Primary Care Collaboration How grassroots community efforts during the pandemic sparked the creation of Pittsburgh’s first DPC-focused MSO. 3. Shared Pain Points, Shared Solutions Cross-coverage, marketing, vaccine acquisition, mentorship—how an MSO makes solo practice less lonely. 4. The Business Side of Medicine Legal guardrails, employer contracts, and the financial realities of keeping physician ownership at the center. 5. Scaling Without Selling Out Why Natalie and her co-founder built their MSO without private equity—and how they’re keeping it mission-driven. 6. Not a One-Size-Fits All Why MSOs aren’t one-size-fits-all and what to consider before starting one in your own region. Listener Takeaways: MSOs (Managed Services Organizations) give DPC doctors shared infrastructure—like marketing, cross-coverage, and legal support—without sacrificing independence. Collaboration often starts with small, local initiatives (like community vaccine clinics) before scaling into sustainable models. Legal and financial guardrails are essential to keep physicians—not private equity—at the center of ownership. Quarterly case reviews, mentorship, and camaraderie help prevent isolation and burnout in solo practice. Resources Mentioned: Gentile Family DPC Maintenance Phase Podcast Atlas.md Direct Care Physicians of Pittsburgh  Rebel Wellness Connect with Us: Host: Dr. Disha Spath, The Frugal Physician Guest: Dr. Natalie Gentile, Gentile Family DPC   This episode is brought to you by: Earned Wealth: Earned's unique Doctor Wealth Playbook includes tax planning, investing, insurance, career advisory, and more. It’s a holistic approach from advisors who get the financial pressures of your profession. And for a limited time, Frugal Physician listeners can visit Earned.com/Frugal  for exclusive access to this comprehensive planning at a discounted rate.
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  • Ep109: Your 401(k) Isn’t Free: How to Find and Cut Hidden Fees (Form 5500 Guide for Doctors)
    Most of us assume our 401k plans are free because we never see a bill. But hidden fees—record keeping, custodial, administration, and advisory costs—can silently erode your retirement savings over time. In this episode, Dr. Disha Spath sits down with forensic 401k consultant Paul Sippel to uncover how these costs work, why they’re so hard to detect, and practical steps you can take to protect your wealth. If you’re a physician, business owner, or employee relying on your 401k for retirement, this conversation is a must-listen! Key Topics Covered: 1. The Hidden Price of 401K Why most employees (and even physicians) don’t realize how much retirement fees are costing them 2. Decoding the Fee Structure Custodial, record keeping, administration and advisory charges explained by Paul 3. So Who Really Pays the Bill? How physicians often carry a bigger share of plan costs than their staff. 4. Defining a “reasonable” costs Benchmarks to know if your plan fees are fair or quietly draining your bank account. 5. Beware of the Transparency Trap Why statements rarely show the true expense and how the industry profits from the confusion 6. Proven Strategies to Lower the Fees From negotiating employer-level billing to exploring self-directed brokerage accounts. Listener Takeaways: If you’ve never seen a bill for your 401k, that doesn’t mean it’s free—the fees are just hidden. Even “small” percentages in fees can compound into massive retirement losses over time. Physicians are often subsidizing their staff’s 401k costs without realizing it. Shifting fees to the employer level creates more fairness and bigger savings potential. You have the tools to uncover and reduce your 401k fees—knowledge equals real money saved. Resources Mentioned: Chatgpt Department of Labor’s www.efast.dol.gov  FreeERISA   Connect with Us: Host: Dr. Disha Spath, The Frugal Physician Guest: Paul Sippel, 401k Forensic Consultant 
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  • Ep108: Direct Primary Care: Dream Job or Disaster? Lessons from Burnout to Building a Thriving DPC Practice with Monica McKittrick
    Is burnout making you question your future in medicine? You’re not alone. For many physicians, the pressures of traditional healthcare lead to stress, exhaustion, and a loss of purpose. But what if there was another way? In this powerful episode of The Finding Financial Freedom Podcast, host Dr. Disha Spath sits down with Monica McKitterick, a physician who walked away from burnout and built a thriving Direct Primary Care (DPC) practice. Monica opens up about the real challenges and rewards of DPC—what it takes to start from scratch, how to set boundaries without sacrificing patient care, and the financial strategies that make this model sustainable. Whether you’re curious if DPC could be your dream job, or you’re preparing to make the leap yourself, this episode is packed with practical insights, cautionary tales, and inspiring takeaways. Key Topics Covered: 1. Is DPC a dream job or a disaster? Monica shares the truth about life as a DPC provider, from freedom to challenges. 2. The Leap from Traditional Healthcare to DPC Why she left a broken system for a model that prioritizes patients. 3. Financial Prep for First-Time DPC Physicians Smart steps to take before transitioning 4. Traits of a Successful DPC Provider The personality strengths (and pitfalls) that determine long-term success. 5. Building Boundaries Without Breaking Your Practice How Monica protects her time while keeping patients happy 6. Hiring on a Budget  Tips for growing your team without overwhelming overhead. 7. Marketing Your DPC Practice  How to attract patients while staying true to your values.   Listener Takeaways: Learn how to recover from burnout and rebuild a fulfilling medical career. Discover what it really takes to start a DPC practice from scratch. Get practical tips on financial planning, hiring, and marketing for your DPC clinic. Find out if DPC is the right path for you—or if it might feel like a disaster. Resources Mentioned: DPC Dream Job or Total Disaster by Monica McKitterick Want to learn more about DPC? Check out: thedpcformula.com  OnlineJobs.ph   Connect with Us: Host: Dr. Disha Spath, The Frugal Physician Guest: Monica McKitterick, DPC Formula
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Financial Freedom and Peace of Mind. For all of us. A podcast by The Frugal Physician for healthcare professionals looking to get their financial house in order and design their ideal lives.
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