Child Abuse Allegations: Finding Truth and Safety in Family Court with Dr. Wendy Bourg
Child Sexual Abuse Allegations in Family Court: Expert Insights with Dr. Wendy BourgIn this compelling episode, Bill Eddy and Megan Hunter welcome clinical psychologist Dr. Wendy Bourg for a rare and candid discussion about one of family court's most challenging issues. With decades of experience developing forensic interview guidelines and working directly with families, Dr. Bourg shares invaluable insights about navigating these complex situations.The conversation explores how courts, professionals, and families can move beyond emotional reactions to find practical solutions that prioritize child wellbeing. Dr. Bourg challenges common assumptions and offers fresh perspectives on handling these sensitive cases, drawing from her extensive work in Oregon's family court system.Questions Explored in This EpisodeWhat makes these cases particularly challenging for family courts?How can professionals avoid common pitfalls when investigating allegations?What approaches best serve children caught in these situations?Where do well-meaning professionals sometimes go wrong?How can courts balance competing priorities in unclear cases?Key Reasons to ListenGain practical insights from a leading expert in the fieldLearn about surprising research findings that challenge conventional wisdomUnderstand how to avoid common mistakes that can harm familiesDiscover innovative approaches to handling complex casesHear real-world examples that illuminate better ways forwardWhether you're a family court professional, mental health practitioner, or concerned parent, this episode offers crucial insights for anyone seeking to better understand and address these challenging situations. Join us for this important conversation that goes beyond typical discussions to explore practical, balanced approaches that put children first.Additional ResourcesGuest, Dr. Wendy Bourghttps://drwendybourg.com/Expert PublicationsEvaluating Sexual Abuse Reports In Family Court by Dr. Wendy BourgTell Me What Happened: Questioning Children About Abuse by Michael LambJeopardy in the Courtroom: A Scientific Analysis of Children's Testimony by Stephen CeciProfessional & Personal DevelopmentConflictInfluencer.com (website for individuals dealing with high-conflict in personal life)New Ways for Families® Training: For family and divorce professionalsConnect With UsVisit High Conflict Institute: highconflictinstitute.comSubmit questions for Bill and MeganBrowse our complete collection of books and resources in our online store—available in print and e-book formatsFind these show notes and all past episode notes on our websiteImportant NoticeOur discussions focus on behavioral patterns rather than diagnoses. For specific legal or therapeutic guidance, please consult qualified professionals in your area.
(00:00) - Welcome to It's All Your Fault
(01:31) - Child Sexual Abuse Allegations in Family Court
(02:02) - Meet Dr. Wendy Bourg
(03:19) - Her Interest in This Work
(07:45) - Karpman Drama Triangle
(09:35) - Prevalence
(13:42) - True or Not True?
(18:20) - Safety First and Hippocratic Oath
(23:55) - Grey Area Solutions
(24:42) - Increase in Frequency?
(30:24) - Cycles of Hysteria
(33:10) - Therapists and Forensic Truths
(36:26) - Flaws Still in the System
(37:36) - Working to Help Parents Come Around
(39:07) - Percent of Cases That Are True
(42:32) - Best Practice Tips
(45:38) - No Common Trigger Points
(47:10) - Thoughts for Judges
(49:19) - Non-Family Members
(50:39) - Wrap Up
(51:55) - Reminders
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Trauma vs. Entitlement: Finding Balance in High Conflict Situations
Beyond Trauma-Informed: Finding Balance Between Compassion and ConsequencesBill Eddy and Megan Hunter explore the complex relationship between trauma-informed approaches and setting appropriate boundaries when dealing with high conflict situations. This timely discussion examines how professionals and individuals can balance empathy with necessary limits.Understanding Trauma and EntitlementThe episode delves into how trauma experiences and entitled behavior can sometimes overlap, yet require different responses. Bill Eddy shares insights from his article "Are We Being Too Nice in High Conflict Situations?" highlighting the importance of maintaining appropriate boundaries while acknowledging genuine trauma.The discussion explores how some individuals may use past trauma as justification for problematic behavior, while others may demonstrate entitled behavior without trauma history. The hosts emphasize the need for a balanced approach that combines trauma-informed methods with clear limit-setting.Questions We Answer in This EpisodeHow do we distinguish between trauma response and entitled behavior?When should we set limits with someone who has experienced trauma?How can professionals balance empathy with boundary-setting?What role does DBT (Dialectical Behavior Therapy) play in addressing these issues?How can families handle situations involving threats of self-harm?Key TakeawaysTrauma history doesn't excuse harmful behavior toward othersSetting limits can be an act of respect and careProfessional help is crucial when dealing with serious threatsThe SLIC method (Setting Limits and Imposing Consequences) offers practical guidanceInterventions work best when conducted as coordinated group effortsThe episode provides valuable insights for professionals and individuals navigating complex relationships where trauma and entitled behavior intersect. Rather than choosing between empathy and boundaries, listeners learn how to implement both approaches effectively.Additional ResourcesExpert PublicationsArticle: SLIC Solutions: Setting Limits and Imposing Consequences in 2 ½ StepsArticle: Are We Being too Nice with High Conflict Behavior?Book: The Body Keeps The Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in The Healing of Trauma - Paperback by Bessel Van der Kolk M.D.Book alert: email [email protected] to be notified when SLIC Solutions book by Bill Eddy is releasedProfessional DevelopmentConflictInfluencer.comNew Ways Training types and dates: For professionals (HR; Workplace leaders; divorce counselors and coaches; mediators) to learn how to work with high-conflict cases, clients or situationsResourcesEMDRIA.com: EMDR International Association (trauma treatment training/resources)DialecticalBehaviorTherapy.com: A free course for taking control of your thoughts, emotions, and relationships. 40+ lessons with guides, videos, and worksheets.Connect With UsVisit High Conflict Institute: highconflictinstitute.comSubmit questions for Bill and MeganBrowse our complete collection of books and resources in our online store—available in print and e-book formatsFind these show notes and all past episode notes on our websiteImportant NoticeOur discussions focus on behavioral patterns rather than diagnoses. For specific legal or therapeutic guidance, please consult qualified professionals in your area.
(00:00) - Welcome to It's All Your Fault
(01:33) - Trauma and Entitlement
(01:50) - You're Being Too Nice
(07:08) - Setting Limits
(08:21) - Possibilities
(12:31) - Broader Context or Narrower?
(16:50) - Empathy at a Distance
(21:09) - Pointing to Where Limits Need to Be Set
(22:34) - Example
(25:46) - If Threats Continue
(31:28) - Wrap Up
(31:59) - Reminders
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Female Teacher Sexual Misconduct: Understanding Power Dynamics and Emotional Drivers
Female Teachers Who Sexually Assault Male Students: Understanding a Complex IssueBill Eddy and Megan Hunter explore the concerning pattern of sexual misconduct between female teachers and male students. This episode examines the psychological, interpersonal, and cultural factors that contribute to these situations, while providing insights for prevention and awareness.Understanding the DynamicsResearch indicates these cases often involve teachers targeting older adolescents (15-16 years old), with interactions occurring both inside and outside school settings. The motivations tend to be emotionally-driven rather than predatory. While federal data doesn't track gender-specific statistics, anecdotal evidence suggests increased visibility of these cases in recent years.The behavioral patterns in these cases often reveal complex emotional attachment issues, where professional boundaries become increasingly blurred. Teachers who demonstrate this conduct typically exploit their position of authority while developing inappropriate emotional connections with students. This process frequently involves grooming behaviors, where the adult gradually manipulates the relationship dynamic through special attention, emotional manipulation, and progressive boundary violations.Questions We Answer in This Episode:What psychological factors contribute to this behavior?How does grooming manifest in educational settings?What are the impacts on teenage male victims?What warning signs should parents and schools watch for?How can educational institutions prevent these situations?Key Takeaways:Clear boundaries and oversight are essential in educational settingsSchools need comprehensive policies and annual trainingParents should maintain open communication about boundariesEarly intervention and awareness can prevent escalationProfessional support should be available for at-risk teachersThis episode provides valuable insights for educators, parents, and administrators while examining the complex factors that contribute to these concerning situations. Understanding these dynamics helps create safer educational environments and better protection for students.Additional ResourcesWatch the Full New York Post video “Psychologist Explains Why Female Teachers Have Sex With Students”OrganizationsRAINN (Help for men and boys who have been sexually assaulted or abused)Article: Sexual Assault of Men and BoysNational Sexual Assault Hotline: 800.656.HOPE (U.S.)1in6.org (Support for men who have experienced sexual abuse or assault)501(c)(3) Zero Abuse ProjectExpert PublicationsLessons to Learn: Female Educators Who Sexually Abuse Their Students (Psychiatric Times)How Female Sexual Abusers Groom Their Victims (Psychology Today - Dr. Elizabeth L. Jeglic Ph.D.)Sexual assault has lasting effects on teenagers’ mental health and education (National Institute for Health and Care Research)Professional & Personal DevelopmentConflictInfluencer.comConnect With UsVisit High Conflict Institute: highconflictinstitute.comSubmit questions for Bill and MeganBrowse our complete collection of books and resources in our online store—available in print and e-book formatsFind these show notes and all past episode notes on our websiteImportant NoticeOur discussions focus on behavioral patterns rather than diagnoses. For specific legal or therapeutic guidance, please consult qualified professionals in your area.
(00:00) - Welcome to It's All Your Fault
(01:32) - Female Teachers who Sexually Assault Young Male Students
(02:00) - Background Research
(04:17) - What They're Trying to Recreate
(05:21) - Looking at the Individual Aspect
(09:06) - Trying to Fill a Hole
(11:15) - Looking at the Cultural Aspect
(12:31) - More Research
(15:26) - Impact on Student
(17:41) - Attraction to the Extremes
(20:28) - Teens with Signs of High Conflict Traits
(22:10) - What to Be Aware of
(25:01) - Raising Education Levels
(27:28) - What Parents and Schools Can Do
(33:01) - Reminders
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High Conflict Surprises: How to Recover When You Never Saw It Coming
When High Conflict Takes You By SurpriseLife can change dramatically when you unexpectedly encounter a person who demonstrates high conflict behavior. Bill Eddy and Megan Hunter from the High Conflict Institute in Scottsdale, Arizona, explore the unsettling experience of being blindsided by high conflict situations—whether in a new job, relationship, or family dynamic.Understanding the Impact of Unexpected High ConflictWhen high conflict behavior emerges unexpectedly, it often creates a destabilizing ripple effect. The initial confusion and self-doubt can leave anyone questioning their capabilities and judgment. This episode examines how these situations develop, from the early stages of confusion through the progression of mounting tension and isolation.Recognizing High Conflict PatternsThe most challenging aspect of surprise high conflict situations is their ability to create self-doubt in even the most confident individuals. What begins as an attempt to improve communication or performance often escalates into a pattern of increasing criticism and isolation. Understanding these patterns helps identify when you're dealing with high conflict behavior rather than typical workplace or relationship challenges.Questions We Answer in This EpisodeHow do you recognize when self-doubt stems from high conflict behavior?What makes group high conflict situations especially challenging?Why do attempts to "try harder" often backfire with high conflict people?How can you protect yourself from high conflict surprises?Key TakeawaysRemember "It's not about me" when facing unexpected criticism90% of people don't engage in high conflict behaviorPhysical distance can help manage high conflict situationsTrust your experience with non-high conflict relationshipsSetting clear limits with consequences can be effectiveHigh conflict surprises can happen to anyone, anywhere. This episode provides practical insights for recognizing, understanding, and managing these challenging situations while maintaining your confidence and perspective.Additional ResourcesExpert PublicationsIt’s All Your Fault at Work! Dealing with Narcissists and Other High-Conflict People - Managing High Conflict Workplace Dynamics5 Types of People Who Can Ruin Your Life - Understanding High Conflict BehaviorProfessional DevelopmentNew Ways for Couples & Families: Online relationship strengthening courseConflictInfluencer.com: Advanced conflict management training (Coming Soon)Connect With UsVisit High Conflict Institute: highconflictinstitute.comSubmit questions for Bill and MeganBrowse our complete collection of books and resources in our online store—available in print and e-book formatsFind these show notes and all past episode notes on our websiteImportant NoticeOur discussions focus on behavioral patterns rather than diagnoses. For specific legal or therapeutic guidance, please consult qualified professionals in your area.
(00:00) - Welcome to It's All Your Fault
(01:32) - High Conflict Surprises
(02:37) - Updates
(03:32) - Bill’s Example
(09:07) - What Happens In Our Minds
(11:03) - Progression and Impact
(13:02) - CARS Method
(20:23) - Recentering Yourself
(23:59) - New on the Job
(26:08) - High Conflict Traps
(27:19) - Target of Blame
(29:00) - Larger Groups
(31:42) - Wrap Up
(32:44) - Reminders
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“Why Don’t You Just Leave?”: Understanding Abuse & Finding Your Way Out
Understanding Why People Stay in Abusive RelationshipsBill Eddy and Megan Hunter return for their seventh season of It's All Your Fault to tackle a challenging but critical topic: why people stay in abusive relationships. Drawing from their extensive experience at the High Conflict Institute, they explore the complex psychological, financial, and social factors that make leaving difficult—even for those with resources and support networks.The Power of Coercive ControlThe episode delves into how coercive control operates in relationships, using the high-profile example of FKA Twigs and Shia LaBeouf. Bill and Megan examine how abusers use tactics like love bombing, isolation, and emotional manipulation to maintain power. They emphasize that this pattern appears not just in romantic relationships, but in workplaces, families, and elder care situations.Understanding Personality PatternsThe discussion explores how people with cluster B personality traits may engage in controlling behaviors. Bill and Megan carefully explain the connection between personality patterns and abusive behavior, while emphasizing that not everyone with these traits becomes abusive. They examine how cultural factors and early life experiences can influence the development of controlling behaviors.Breaking Free and Finding HelpThe hosts share practical advice for recognizing abuse and seeking help, highlighting the importance of self-talk and building support networks. They discuss how professionals and concerned individuals can better support those in abusive situations, emphasizing the need for careful investigation rather than quick dismissal of abuse claims.Questions we answer in this episode:Why do capable, independent people stay in abusive relationships?How does coercive control work in different types of relationships?What role do personality patterns play in abusive behavior?How can professionals better identify and help abuse victims?What are the first steps to breaking free from an abusive relationship?Key Takeaways:Abusive relationships often involve complex psychological manipulationFinancial and social factors can make leaving extremely difficultSelf-doubt and eroded self-esteem are common barriers to leavingSupport systems are crucial for helping people leave abusive situationsProfessional help and community awareness can make a significant differenceThis episode provides valuable insights for anyone trying to understand abusive relationships—whether personally affected or supporting others. Bill and Megan's expertise shines through as they offer practical guidance while maintaining sensitivity around this complex topic.Note: Content warning for discussions of domestic violence and abuse. Some listeners may find portions of this episode challenging.Links & Other NotesReach out to the U.S. Domestic Violence Hotline if you’re in an abusive relationship and need help via their website or call 800-799-7233BOOKSOur New World of Adult Bullies: How to Spot Them - How to Stop ThemDating Radar: Why Your Brain Says Yes to the The One Who Will Make Your Life HellARTICLESWhy Is It So Hard to Leave Abusive Relationships? (And What Can Be Done to Help?)COURSESNew Ways for Couples & Families (for strengthening or saving relationships, and helping their kids, if any)Conflict Influencer website alert signup (coming July 8)OUR WEBSITE: https://www.highconflictinstitute.com/Submit a Question for Bill and MeganAll of our books can be found in our online store or anywhere books are sold, including as e-books.You can also find these show notes at our site as well.Note: We are not diagnosing anyone in our discussions, merely discussing general patterns of behavior. Nor are we providing legal or therapeutic advice. Please seek the assistance of your local professionals to seek help.
(00:00) - Welcome to It's All Your Fault
(01:32) - Why It’s Hard to Leave Abusive Relationships
(02:58) - Catching Up
(08:42) - New Ways for Couples and Families
(11:08) - Other Updates
(11:31) - Why It’s Hard to Leave a Relationship Example
(19:38) - How It Grows
(21:25) - Evolving Inequality and Secrecy
(25:01) - Men Who Are Abused
(27:32) - Common Thread
(28:30) - Personalities and When to Report
(33:09) - Living in the Fear Mode
(36:50) - What to Do
(41:23) - If It’s Someone You Know
(44:43) - Signoff
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Hosted by Bill Eddy, LCSW, Esq. and Megan Hunter, MBA, It’s All Your Fault! High Conflict People explores the five types of people who can ruin your life—people with high conflict personalities and how they weave themselves into our lives in romance, at work, next door, at school, places of worship, and just about everywhere, causing chaos, exhaustion, and dread for everyone else.
They are the most difficult of difficult people — some would say they’re toxic. Without them, tv shows, movies, and the news would be boring, but who wants to live that way in your own life!
Have you ever wanted to know what drives them to act this way?
In the It’s All Your Fault podcast, we’ll take you behind the scenes to understand what’s happening in the brain and illuminates why we pick HCPs as life partners, why we hire them, and how we can handle interactions and relationships with them. We break down everything you ever wanted to know about people with the 5 high conflict personality types: narcissistic, borderline, histrionic, antisocial/sociopath, and paranoid.
And we’ll give you tips on how to spot them and how to deal with them.
Listen to It’s All Your Fault: High Conflict People, Inside Business with Ciaran Hancock and many other podcasts from around the world with the radio.net app
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