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Perfect Prey: A Coercive Control Podcast

Dr. Christine Marie Cocchiola
Perfect Prey: A Coercive Control Podcast
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    How Predators Groom Children with Jeremy Indika

    03/07/2026 | 39 mins.
    DescriptionIn this episode of Perfect Prey, I’m joined by Jeremy Indika, child sexual abuse educator, survivor, speaker, and advocate. Jeremy shares his own experience of childhood sexual abuse and explains why understanding grooming, coercive control, and child exploitation has never been more urgent.Together, we explore how perpetrators identify vulnerable children, the similarities between child sexual predators and coercive controllers, and why abuse is so often hidden in plain sight. Jeremy explains how grooming happens both offline and online, why "stranger danger" misses the mark, and what parents can do to empower children without taking away their innocence. We also discuss the rise of online exploitation, the importance of body autonomy education, role-playing safety skills with children, and why creating confident, educated children makes them far less attractive targets for predators.This conversation is both deeply personal and incredibly practical—offering parents, caregivers, educators, and professionals the tools to better understand how abuse happens and, more importantly, how we can prevent it.What we cover•Jeremy Indika's story as a survivor of childhood sexual abuse•The connection between coercive control and child sexual abuse•The stages of grooming and how predators build trust•Why children are "perfect prey" for abusers•The dangers of online grooming, pornography, and sextortion•Why "stranger danger" is no longer enough•Body autonomy and age-appropriate abuse prevention•Teaching children confidence, boundaries, and safe disclosure•Why role-playing difficult situations helps protect children•Supporting children without creating fear•Why education—not shame—is the key to preventionWhy listenIf you're a parent, educator, clinician, advocate, or simply someone who wants to better understand how child sexual abuse happens, this episode provides practical, trauma-informed guidance that could help protect a child.Jeremy reminds us that abuse is rarely about force in the beginning—it's about grooming, trust, and manipulation. By understanding these tactics, adults can create safer environments where children are empowered to speak up and predators lose their greatest advantage.Guest BioJeremy Indika is a child sexual abuse educator, speaker, survivor, and advocate dedicated to preventing child sexual exploitation through education and awareness.Drawing from both his lived experience and years of advocacy, Jeremy works with schools, parents, law enforcement, and organizations to teach practical strategies for recognizing grooming behaviors, empowering children, and preventing abuse before it occurs. Through workshops, social media, YouTube, and his podcast, Jeremy is helping make conversations about child protection more accessible, practical, and impactful.Connect with JeremyWebsite: https://www.jeremyindika.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@JeremyIndikaInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyindikaTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jeremyindikaPodcast: https://www.jeremyindika.com/podcastConnect with Dr. Christine:Protective Parenting Program: https://www.coercivecontrolconsulting.com/services/for-parents/Dr. C's Community: https://go.drcocchiola.com/innercirclecommunityOfficial site: https://www.coercivecontrolconsulting.com/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DrCocchiola-coercivecontrol/videosTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dr.c_coercivecontrolInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.cocchiola_coercivecontrol/TEDxTalks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp2qByKOue4&t=24sBooks:https://url-shortener.me/c/FramedBookhttps://url-shortener.me/c/EveryMomentOfEveryDayIf this episode landed for you, please share it with someone who needs to hear it, subscribe for more trauma-informed conversations, and consider leaving a review—it helps other survivors find validation and safety.— Dr. Christine Cocchiola & Jeremy Indika
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    The Hidden Impact of Trauma Across a Lifetime with Dr. Ann Burgess

    05/06/2026 | 35 mins.
    Description
    In this episode of Perfect Prey, I’m joined by Ann Burgess, pioneering forensic nurse, researcher, educator, and author of Expert Witness. Ann’s groundbreaking work transformed how professionals understand trauma, victimization, sexual violence, and offender behavior. Her research has influenced criminal investigations, forensic psychology, victim advocacy, and some of the most well-known criminal cases in modern history.

    Together, we explore the long-term impact of trauma, why victims are so often disbelieved, and how systems continue to fail those who come forward. Ann shares insights from decades of work studying victims, offenders, serial violence, child abuse, and the psychology of coercion and control. We also discuss institutional betrayal, trauma responses in children and adults, family court failures, pornography, grooming, and what it takes to create meaningful change within systems that were never designed to fully protect victims.
    What we cover
    Ann Burgess’s pioneering work in victimology and forensic nursing

    How trauma impacts behavior across the lifespan

    Why victims are often disbelieved by systems and institutions

    Institutional betrayal and systemic failures

    Coercive control, fear, and psychological abuse

    Trauma responses in children and adolescents

    Child sexual abuse and delayed disclosure

    Family court, victim credibility, and expert testimony

    The role of pornography and grooming in abusive behavior

    The Menendez case and evolving understandings of trauma

    Why trauma-informed education is critical for professionals

    How offender thinking patterns develop and escalate

    Why listen
    If you are a survivor, clinician, attorney, advocate, educator, or protective parent, this episode offers a rare opportunity to hear from one of the most influential voices in trauma and victim research.

    Ann Burgess’s work helped shape how we understand trauma today. Her insights illuminate why victims respond the way they do, why systems often misunderstand those responses, and why meaningful reform requires us to listen more closely to survivors’ experiences.

    Guest Bio
    Ann Burgess, DNSc, APRN, FAAN is an internationally recognized forensic nurse, researcher, educator, and author. She is a professor at Boston College and has spent decades studying trauma, victimization, sexual violence, serial offenders, and forensic mental health.

    Ann's groundbreaking research on rape trauma syndrome helped transform the understanding of victim responses to sexual assault. She has consulted with the FBI's Behavioral Science Unit, contributed to offender profiling research, and served as an expert witness in numerous high-profile cases.

    She is the author of several books, including Expert Witness, which chronicles her work at the intersection of trauma, criminal behavior, and justice.

    Connect with Ann Burgess
    Book: Expert Witnesshttps://www.amazon.com/stores/Ann-W.-Burgess/author/B0H13DQXPP?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_3&qid=1780604748&sr=1-3&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=9489809f-1ae4-4998-b8db-a0cbcc536d23
    Boston College Faculty Profile: https://www.bc.edu

    Connect with Dr. Christine
    Protective Parenting Program: https://www.coercivecontrolconsulting.com/services/for-parents/
    Dr. C’s Community: https://go.drcocchiola.com/innercirclecommunity
    Official site: https://www.coercivecontrolconsulting.com/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DrCocchiola-coercivecontrol/videos
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dr.c_coercivecontrol
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.cocchiola_coercivecontrol/
    TEDxTalks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp2qByKOue4&t=24s
    Books:
    https://url-shortener.me/c/FramedBook
    https://url-shortener.me/c/EveryMomentOfEveryDay

    If this episode landed for you, please share it with someone who needs to hear it, subscribe for more trauma-informed conversations, and consider leaving a review — it helps other survivors find validation and safety.

    — Dr. Christine Cocchiola & Ann Burgess
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    Why Traumatized Children Are Often Misunderstood

    22/05/2026 | 25 mins.
    In this solo episode of Perfect Prey, Dr. Christine Cocchiola explores the connection between coercive control, childhood trauma, attachment, and the growing number of children being diagnosed with ADHD and other behavioral disorders.

    Dr. Cocchiola challenges listeners to consider a critical question: what if many of the behaviors we label as “problematic” are actually trauma responses? What if children living within coercively controlling family systems are being misunderstood rather than truly seen?

    Drawing from the work of Dr. Bessel van der Kolk, Dr. Gabor Maté, Dr. Bruce Perry, and betrayal trauma theory, this episode examines how trauma can manifest as fight, flight, freeze, and fawn responses in children — and how coercive control fractures attachment, identity, safety, and regulation.

    Dr. Cocchiola also discusses how predatory parents weaponize children, how attachment is intentionally disrupted, and why protective parents play such a critical role in healing and rebuilding safety for their children.

    What we cover
    This episode is essential listening for protective parents, clinicians, educators, advocates, and anyone trying to better understand trauma, child behavior, and coercive control.
    How trauma can mimic ADHD symptoms
    Fight, flight, freeze, and fawn trauma responses in children
    Coercive control within family systems
    How predatory parents fracture attachment intentionally
    Why dysregulated children are often misunderstood
    Attachment, authenticity, and child development
    Trauma, dissociation, and emotional regulation
    The impact of coercive control on school performance and behavior
    Why children exposed to abuse may appear oppositional or disengaged
    Protective parenting and reigniting attachment
    Broken attachment, broken safety, and “broken brain”
    How systems often pathologize traumatized children instead of protecting them
    Why listen
    If you are raising a child impacted by coercive control, navigating post-separation abuse, or working professionally with children and families, this episode offers a trauma-informed framework for understanding behavior through the lens of attachment and survival.

    Dr. Cocchiola invites listeners to shift away from asking “What’s wrong with this child?” and instead ask: “What happened to this child?”

    Connect with Dr. Christine:
    Protective Parenting Program: https://www.coercivecontrolconsulting.com/services/for-parents/
    Dr. C’s Community: https://go.drcocchiola.com/innercirclecommunity
    Official site: https://www.coercivecontrolconsulting.com/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DrCocchiola-coercivecontrol/videos
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dr.c_coercivecontrol
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.cocchiola_coercivecontrol/
    TEDxTalks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp2qByKOue4&t=24s
    Books:
    https://url-shortener.me/c/FramedBook
    https://url-shortener.me/c/EveryMomentOfEveryDay

    If this episode resonated with you, please share it with someone who may need this conversation, subscribe to Perfect Prey, and leave a review — it helps other survivors and protective parents find support and validation.
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    — Dr. Christine Cocchiola
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    Why Survivors Must Be Heard to Heal with Dr. Judith Lewis Herman

    08/05/2026 | 47 mins.
    In this episode of Perfect Prey, I’m honored to be joined by Judith Herman, one of the world’s foremost pioneers in trauma research and recovery.

    Dr. Herman is the author of the groundbreaking books Father-Daughter Incest, Trauma and Recovery, and Truth and Repair—works that fundamentally changed how we understand trauma, complex trauma, institutional betrayal, and survivor healing.

    Together, we discuss the origins of trauma theory, the women’s movement that brought survivor voices into public consciousness, the devastating lifelong impact of childhood abuse and coercive control, and why children living in unsafe family systems are so deeply affected—even when the abuse is not overtly physical.

    We also explore the ACEs study, attachment, institutional failures, protective parenting, intergenerational trauma, and the critical role of safe relationships in healing.

    This is an essential conversation for survivors, clinicians, advocates, educators, attorneys, judges, and anyone seeking a deeper understanding of trauma and recovery.

    What we cover
    The origins of trauma and complex trauma theory

    How the women’s movement changed the understanding of abuse

    Dr. Herman’s groundbreaking work on incest and child sexual abuse

    The lifelong mental and physical health impacts of childhood trauma

    The ACEs study and adverse childhood experiences

    Coercive control, family violence, and child development

    Isolation as a tactic of abuse and coercive control

    Why children exposed to family violence are profoundly harmed

    Protective factors that help children heal from trauma

    Attachment, belonging, and the importance of safe relationships

    Institutional betrayal and why survivors must be heard

    Protective parenting and rebuilding connection with children

    Why listen
    If you are a survivor, protective parent, clinician, advocate, educator, researcher, or legal professional, this episode offers foundational insight into trauma, coercive control, attachment, and recovery.

    Dr. Herman’s work helped shape the modern understanding of trauma and continues to guide how we think about healing, institutional accountability, and the long-term impact of childhood abuse.

    Guest bio (short)
    Judith Herman, MD, is a psychiatrist, researcher, professor, and internationally recognized pioneer in the study of psychological trauma. She is the author of Father-Daughter Incest, Trauma and Recovery, and Truth and Repair, groundbreaking works that transformed the understanding of trauma, complex PTSD, and survivor recovery.

    About Dr. Judith Lewis Herman
    Guilford Press: https://www.guilford.com/author/Judith-Lewis-Herman?srsltid=AfmBOopF18dr2S7Z0VoukbbZiSSvNFY7XqwmoLAmoT2OykKgsoR2T4fY

    Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Lewis_Herman

    Psychology Today: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/judith-l-herman-md

    Connect with Dr. Christine:
    Protective Parenting Program: https://www.coercivecontrolconsulting.com/services/for-parents/
    Official site: https://www.coercivecontrolconsulting.com/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DrCocchiola-coercivecontrol/videos
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dr.c_coercivecontrol
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.cocchiola_coercivecontrol/
    TEDxTalks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp2qByKOue4&t=24s
    Books: https://url-shortener.me/c/FramedBook
    https://url-shortener.me/c/EveryMomentOfEveryDay

    If this episode landed for you, please share it with someone who needs to hear it, subscribe for more trauma-informed conversations, and consider leaving a review — it helps other survivors find validation and safety.
    🩵
    — Dr. Christine Cocchiola & guest Dr. Judith Herman
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    Greyson’s Choice: Ali Kessler’s Mission to Protect Children

    24/04/2026 | 35 mins.
    Description
    In this episode of Perfect Prey, I’m joined by Ali Kessler, founder of Greyson’s Choice, child safety advocate, and a powerful voice for prevention, awareness, and systemic change.

    Ali shares her deeply personal story of loss, resilience, and purpose—and how unimaginable grief became a mission to protect other children. Through Greyson’s Choice, Ali has transformed pain into advocacy, using her son Greyson’s legacy to create education, awareness, and meaningful change for families everywhere.

    This conversation is both heartbreaking and inspiring, highlighting what it means to carry love forward through action, courage, and protection.

    What we cover
    The story behind Greyson’s Choice

    Honoring Greyson’s legacy through advocacy

    Turning grief into purpose and prevention

    Why child safety awareness matters

    Systemic gaps that leave children vulnerable

    Supporting families after trauma and loss

    Creating change through courage and community

    Why listen
    If you are a parent, survivor, advocate, clinician, or someone navigating grief after trauma, this episode offers compassion, courage, and hope.

    Ali’s story is a reminder that even after devastating loss, love can still become action—and protection for others.

    Guest bio (short)
    Ali Kessler is the founder of Greyson’s Choice, a child safety advocacy organization created in honor of her son, Greyson. Through education, awareness, and reform efforts, she works to protect children, support families, and create lasting change in Greyson’s memory.

    Connect with Ali Kessler:
    Website: https://greysonschoice.org
    Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/greysonschoice/
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreysonsChoice
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/greysons-choice/posts/?feedView=all
    YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjQd87p3UbsHmUWxVkxJlUw

    Connect with Dr. Christine Cocchiola:
    Protective Parenting Program: https://www.coercivecontrolconsulting.com/services/for-parents/
    Official site: https://www.coercivecontrolconsulting.com/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DrCocchiola-coercivecontrol/videos
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dr.c_coercivecontrol
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.cocchiola_coercivecontrol/
    TEDxTalks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp2qByKOue4&t=24s
    Books:https://url-shortener.me/c/FramedBook
    https://url-shortener.me/c/EveryMomentOfEveryDay

    If this episode landed for you, please share it with someone who needs to hear it, subscribe for more trauma-informed conversations, and consider leaving a review — it helps other survivors find validation and safety.

    🩵
    — Dr. Christine Cocchiola & guest Ali Kessler
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About Perfect Prey: A Coercive Control Podcast
Dr. Christine Marie Cocchiola, DSW, LCSW is a Coercive Control Educator, Researcher, & Survivor. She has been an advocate since the age of 19, passionate about protecting children from abuse. Yet, even as a therapist, she didn't see the signs in her own relationship. How do we, as protective parents, support our children harmed by the coercive controller (aka Narcissistic Abuser)? Dr. Cocchiola's expertise provides the framework for supporting protective parents as they navigate parenting children harmed by the coercive controller. Protective parents can show their children a path to freedom.
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