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The Latch Revolution

Katie James & Johanna Sargeant
The Latch Revolution
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  • The Latch Revolution

    "My Milk Has Disappeared” — What’s Actually Happening? E12

    25/03/2026 | 40 mins.
    “My milk has disappeared.”

    It’s one of the most common messages mums send in panic — often around the 8–10 week mark.

    Breasts feel soft, leaking stops, letdowns change… and suddenly everything feels different.

    In this episode of The Latch Revolution, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant (IBCLCs) explore the common experience of breastfeeding mums feeling like their milk has suddenly disappeared.

    They begin with the classic scenario around 8–10 weeks, where breasts feel softer, leaking reduces, and sensations like letdown are no longer as noticeable. This shift can feel alarming, particularly as many mums are no longer receiving regular support at this stage.

    Katie and Joh explain how this change is often a normal transition from the early, less regulated phase of milk production into a more efficient, demand-led system. The body has learned how much milk to make and no longer needs to overproduce.

    The conversation then moves into other situations that can feel like milk has disappeared, including illness, hormonal changes, return of periods, pregnancy, and thyroid changes. They explain how these factors can temporarily affect milk supply but do not mean that milk is gone permanently.

    Finally, the episode explores a more sensitive and complex topic — how grief and significant stress can affect the milk ejection reflex and make it feel as though milk is no longer there. They discuss how this is a physiological response to overwhelming stress, and the importance of compassion in these situations.

    In This Episode We Cover

    – Why breasts feel softer around 8–10 weeks
    – Why leaking and letdown sensations can disappear
    – How milk production becomes more efficient over time
    – Why babies are the best indicator of milk supply
    – Temporary changes from illness or hormonal shifts
    – The impact of returning periods on milk supply
    – Pregnancy and breastfeeding changes
    – Thyroid conditions and milk production
    – How grief can affect milk ejection

    Want More From Katie and Joh?

    Check out our courses for professionals:

    Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties

    “My milk has disappeared.”

    It’s one of the most common messages mums send in panic — often around the 8–10 week mark.

    Breasts feel soft, leaking stops, letdowns change… and suddenly everything feels different.

    Episode Summary

    In this episode of The Latch Revolution, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant explore the common experience of breastfeeding mums feeling like their milk has suddenly disappeared.

    They begin with the classic scenario around 8–10 weeks, where breasts feel softer, leaking reduces, and sensations like letdown are no longer as noticeable. This shift can feel alarming, particularly as many mums are no longer receiving regular support at this stage.

    Katie and Joh explain how this change is often a normal transition from the early, less regulated phase of milk production into a more efficient, demand-led system. The body has learned how much milk to make and no longer needs to overproduce.

    The conversation then moves into other situations that can feel like milk has disappeared, including illness, hormonal changes, return of periods, pregnancy, and thyroid changes. They explain how these factors can temporarily affect milk supply but do not mean that milk is gone permanently.

    Finally, the episode explores a more sensitive and complex topic — how grief and significant stress can affect the milk ejection reflex and make it feel as though milk is no longer there. They discuss how this is not a failure of milk production, but a physiological response to overwhelming stress, and the importance of compassion in these situations.

    In This Episode We Cover

    – Why breasts feel softer around 8–10 weeks
    – Why leaking and letdown sensations can disappear
    – How milk production becomes more efficient over time
    – Why babies are the best indicator of milk supply
    – The role of nappies and swallowing as evidence
    – Temporary changes from illness or hormonal shifts
    – The impact of returning periods on milk supply
    – Pregnancy and breastfeeding changes
    – Thyroid conditions and milk production
    – How grief and stress can affect milk ejection

    Want More From Katie and Joh?

    Check out our courses for professionals:

    Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties

    “My milk has disappeared.”

    It’s one of the most common messages mums send in panic — often around the 8–10 week mark.

    Breasts feel soft, leaking stops, letdowns change… and suddenly everything feels different.

    Episode Summary

    In this episode of The Latch Revolution, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant explore the common experience of breastfeeding mums feeling like their milk has suddenly disappeared.

    They begin with the classic scenario around 8–10 weeks, where breasts feel softer, leaking reduces, and sensations like letdown are no longer as noticeable. This shift can feel alarming, particularly as many mums are no longer receiving regular support at this stage.

    Katie and Joh explain how this change is often a normal transition from the early, less regulated phase of milk production into a more efficient, demand-led system. The body has learned how much milk to make and no longer needs to overproduce.

    The conversation then moves into other situations that can feel like milk has disappeared, including illness, hormonal changes, return of periods, pregnancy, and thyroid changes. They explain how these factors can temporarily affect milk supply but do not mean that milk is gone permanently.

    Finally, the episode explores a more sensitive and complex topic — how grief and significant stress can affect the milk ejection reflex and make it feel as though milk is no longer there. They discuss how this is not a failure of milk production, but a physiological response to overwhelming stress, and the importance of compassion in these situations.

    In This Episode We Cover

    – Why breasts feel softer around 8–10 weeks
    – Why leaking and letdown sensations can disappear
    – How milk production becomes more efficient over time
    – Why babies are the best indicator of milk supply
    – The role of nappies and swallowing as evidence
    – Temporary changes from illness or hormonal shifts
    – The impact of returning periods on milk supply
    – Pregnancy and breastfeeding changes
    – Thyroid conditions and milk production
    – How grief and stress can affect milk ejection

    Want More From Katie and Joh?

    Check out our courses for professionals:

    Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties

    https://thelatchrevolution.com

    Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals
    https://katiejames.site

    The Feeding Couch® – Breastfeeding SOS
    https://katiejames.site

    You can also access the 5 Gentle Questions Booklet — a clinical tool designed to support deeper conversations in breastfeeding consultations: https://www.thelatchrevolution.com/gentle-questions

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    Medical Disclaimer

    Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.

    Keywords

    milk supply disappeared, breastfeeding 9 weeks, soft breasts breastfeeding, breastfeeding panic milk gone, letdown disappeared breastfeeding, breastfeeding hormones period return, thyroid breastfeeding milk supply, pregnancy breastfeeding changes, stress milk supply, grief breastfeeding
  • The Latch Revolution

    What’s Normal in the First Month of Breastfeeding? - Ep 11

    11/03/2026 | 37 mins.
    The first month of breastfeeding can feel completely unpredictable.

    One day your baby feeds constantly. The next day they barely wake to feed. Your breasts feel full, then suddenly soft. And every small change can make a new mum wonder if something is wrong.

    In this episode, Katie and Joh talk about what is actually normal in those early weeks.

    Episode Summary

    In this episode of The Latch Revolution, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant explore what typically happens during the first month of breastfeeding and why this period can feel so confusing for new mothers.

    They discuss how babies often feed in very unpredictable patterns during the early weeks. Some days a baby may feed almost continuously, while on other days they may sleep more and feed far less. This variation can feel alarming to new mums, but it often reflects normal growth patterns and recovery cycles rather than a problem.

    Katie and Joh explain why focusing on nappies and overall weight trends is far more helpful than watching daily changes in feeding frequency or weight. They discuss how frequent weighing can create unnecessary anxiety and why weekly weight checks are often more appropriate once feeding is established.

    The conversation also explores the importance of recognising feeding cues and how easily these can be missed, especially when families are busy or when babies are more sleepy. Katie describes early, mid and late feeding cues, while Joh explains how subtle head movements and searching behaviours often signal that a baby is looking for the breast.

    They also unpack what is happening hormonally in the mother’s body during the first month. In these early weeks breastfeeding is still hormonally driven, with frequent feeding stimulating prolactin and helping establish long-term milk production. As the weeks progress, the system gradually shifts toward supply-and-demand regulation.

    Finally, they discuss why introducing bottles, dummies, or other feeding tools in the first weeks requires nuance. While these tools can sometimes help families in specific situations, understanding the physiology of milk production in the first month is key to protecting long-term milk supply.

    In This Episode, We Cover:

    Why feeding patterns can feel unpredictable in the first month

    Why daily baby weight checks can increase anxiety for breastfeeding mums

    How nappies and output help confirm that a baby is feeding well

    The early, mid and late feeding cues newborn babies show

    Why sleepy babies can sometimes miss feeding opportunities

    What is happening hormonally in a mother’s body during the first month of breastfeeding

    How prolactin and frequent feeding help establish milk supply

    When breastfeeding shifts from hormonal regulation to supply and demand

    Why introducing bottles or dummies in the early weeks requires consideration

    How understanding breastfeeding physiology helps protect milk supply



    Want More?

    Courses for birth professionals:

    Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties

    thelatchrevolution.com

    Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals

    katiejames.site

    For pregnancy and new mums and parents:

    The Feeding Couch® – Breastfeeding SOS

    katiejames.site



    Instagram

    Katie: @katiejameslactation

    Johanna: @milkandmotherhood



    YouTube

    The Latch Revolution



    Enjoying the podcast?

    Leave us a 5-star review

    Subscribe so you don’t miss future episodes



    Medical Disclaimer

    The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.



    Keywords

    first month breastfeeding, newborn feeding patterns, breastfeeding frequency newborn, breastfeeding feeding cues, newborn nappies breastfeeding, prolactin milk production, supply and demand breastfeeding, early breastfeeding weeks, breastfeeding weight gain newborn, breastfeeding physiology first month
  • The Latch Revolution

    Antenatal Colostrum Harvesting: Helpful Skill or Hidden Pressure? E10

    25/02/2026 | 41 mins.
    Antenatal colostrum harvesting.

    Some call it essential. Others call it unnecessary pressure.

    In this episode, Katie and Joh unpack the nuance — without extremes.



    Episode Summary

    In this episode of The Latch Revolution, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant, IBCLC's sit down for an unplanned, cuppa-style conversation about antenatal colostrum harvesting — and quickly discover that while their opinions are strong, they are surprisingly aligned.

    They explore how colostrum harvesting has evolved from a targeted strategy for mothers with gestational diabetes to something increasingly promoted to the wider pregnant population. Katie reflects on how social media, online kits, and pressure to “prepare properly” can strip the nuance from what is meant to be a gentle, curiosity-based skill.

    Joh shares how she approaches the conversation in prenatal consults: as an opportunity for a breastfeeding mum to learn how to handle her breasts confidently, without urgency or expectation. The focus is not on stockpiling syringes, but on familiarity, technique, and understanding how the body works while the placenta is still in place.

    The episode also addresses common concerns, including why using a pump in pregnancy is not recommended, and the important distinction between curiosity and rigidity. Katie and Joh discuss the second night feeding frenzy, how small amounts of expressed colostrum can sometimes support maternal well-being, and why larger volumes may interfere with the natural frequency that brings milk in.

    Throughout the conversation, they return to the same core principle: context matters. Technique matters. Personality matters. And above all, nuance matters.



    In This Episode, We Cover:

    Why colostrum harvesting moved beyond gestational diabetes

    The difference between curiosity-based practice and pressure

    Why using a pump in pregnancy is not recommended

    How placenta hormones affect milk production before birth

    Why technique may determine whether colostrum appears

    The second night feeding frenzy and how small volumes may help

    How large antenatal stores could potentially interfere with early feeding frequency

    The importance of tailoring advice to each breastfeeding mum’s personality and capacity



    Need More Support?

    Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties

    thelatchrevolution.com

    Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals – Course for birth professionals

    katiejames.site

    The Feeding Couch® – Breastfeeding SOS – for new mums and parents

    katiejames.site



    Instagram:

    Katie: @katiejameslactation

    Johanna: @milkandmotherhood



    YouTube: The Latch Revolution



    Enjoying the podcast?

    Leave us a 5-star review

    Subscribe so you don’t miss future episodes



    Editor’s Note:

    During this conversation, Katie misquoted the proportion of women in the DAME trial who collected zero colostrum antenatally. The correct figure is approximately one in four. We have added a brief in-episode clarification to ensure accuracy.



    Medical Disclaimer

    The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.



    Keywords:

    antenatal colostrum harvesting, colostrum expression in pregnancy, DAME trial colostrum, gestational diabetes breastfeeding, hand expression technique pregnancy, placenta and milk production, second night feeding frenzy, breastfeeding preparation pregnancy, hand expressing colostrum before birth, breastfeeding confidence antenatal
  • The Latch Revolution

    Antenatal Colostrum Harvesting: Helpful Skill or Hidden Pressure?

    25/02/2026 | 40 mins.
    Antenatal colostrum harvesting.

    Some call it essential. Others call it unnecessary pressure.

    In this episode, Katie and Joh unpack the nuance — without extremes.



    Episode Summary

    In this episode of The Latch Revolution, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant, IBCLC's sit down for an unplanned, cuppa-style conversation about antenatal colostrum harvesting — and quickly discover that while their opinions are strong, they are surprisingly aligned.

    They explore how colostrum harvesting has evolved from a targeted strategy for mothers with gestational diabetes to something increasingly promoted to the wider pregnant population. Katie reflects on how social media, online kits, and pressure to “prepare properly” can strip the nuance from what is meant to be a gentle, curiosity-based skill.

    Joh shares how she approaches the conversation in prenatal consults: as an opportunity for a breastfeeding mum to learn how to handle her breasts confidently, without urgency or expectation. The focus is not on stockpiling syringes, but on familiarity, technique, and understanding how the body works while the placenta is still in place.

    The episode also addresses common concerns, including why using a pump in pregnancy is not recommended, and the important distinction between curiosity and rigidity. Katie and Joh discuss the second night feeding frenzy, how small amounts of expressed colostrum can sometimes support maternal well-being, and why larger volumes may interfere with the natural frequency that brings milk in.

    Throughout the conversation, they return to the same core principle: context matters. Technique matters. Personality matters. And above all, nuance matters.



    In This Episode, We Cover:

    Why colostrum harvesting moved beyond gestational diabetes

    The difference between curiosity-based practice and pressure

    What the DAME trial revealed about outcomes and psychology

    Why one in two women may collect zero colostrum antenatally

    Why using a pump in pregnancy is not recommended

    How placenta hormones affect milk production before birth

    Why technique may determine whether colostrum appears

    The second night feeding frenzy and how small volumes may help

    How large antenatal stores could potentially interfere with early feeding frequency

    The importance of tailoring advice to each breastfeeding mum’s personality and capacity



    Need More Support?

    Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties

    thelatchrevolution.com

    Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals – Course for birth professionals

    katiejames.site

    The Feeding Couch® – Breastfeeding SOS – for new mums and parents

    katiejames.site



    Instagram:

    Katie: @katiejameslactation

    Johanna: @milkandmotherhood



    YouTube: The Latch Revolution



    Enjoying the podcast?

    Leave us a 5-star review

    Subscribe so you don’t miss future episodes



    Medical Disclaimer

    The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.



    Keywords:

    antenatal colostrum harvesting, colostrum expression in pregnancy, DAME trial colostrum, gestational diabetes breastfeeding, hand expression technique pregnancy, placenta and milk production, second night feeding frenzy, breastfeeding preparation pregnancy, hand expressing colostrum before birth, breastfeeding confidence antenatal
  • The Latch Revolution

    Breastfeeding Pain: What’s Normal, What’s Not, and Why Words Matter - Ep 9

    05/02/2026 | 44 mins.
    Breastfeeding pain is one of the most common reasons mums stop feeding — yet many are never given the language to describe what they’re feeling.

    In this episode of The Latch Revolution, Katie James and Johanna Sargeant unpack breastfeeding pain with nuance, practicality, and honesty.

    Breastfeeding pain is often talked about in extremes: either it’s “normal, push through,” or “it should never hurt.” In this conversation, Katie and Joh slow the topic down and help differentiate between normal, stretchy discomfort and pain that signals injury or a deeper feeding issue.

    They talk about why pain often peaks in the early days, what ongoing pain is telling us, and how positioning choices — particularly upright feeding with firm pillows — can contribute to shallow attachment and nipple damage. The episode also explores laid-back feeding, why it supports baby reflexes and maternal comfort, and why it still isn’t taught routinely despite decades of discussion.

    A key theme throughout is observation. Rather than focusing only on the breastfeeding, Katie and Joh discuss watching the whole mum — posture, breathing, hands, shoulders, voice, and tension — and how these cues give vital information about what’s really happening during a feed.

    This episode is about giving mums and lactation supporters better language, clearer guidance, and confidence to know when to seek help — without guilt or dismissal.

    In this episode, we cover:

    Why breastfeeding pain isn’t one thing and needs better language

    The difference between normal stretchy discomfort and injury pain

    Why the belief that breastfeeding should never hurt is unhelpful

    When pain typically peaks in the early days

    Signs that pain needs further assessment

    How positioning and pillows affect attachment and comfort

    Why laid-back feeding supports deeper attachment

    What observing the whole mum can tell us about pain

    Need more support?

    If you want to go deeper into breastfeeding assessment and support:

    Decoding the Suck: Gentle support for babies with sucking difficulties

    Learn how to assess suck, attachment, and oral function with confidence, and support babies whose feeding challenges aren’t straightforward.

    Visit thelatchrevolution.com



    Breastfeeding & Lactation: The Fundamentals

    A comprehensive, evidence-based foundation for birth workers who want to strengthen their understanding of breastfeeding physiology and clinical decision-making.

    Visit katiejames.site



    The Feeding Couch® – Breastfeeding SOS

    Ongoing support for breastfeeding mums who need reassurance, clarity, and help navigating feeding challenges.

    Visit katiejames.site



    Follow on Instagram: @katiejameslactation @milkandmotherhood

    Watch on YouTube: The Latch Revolution



    Enjoying the podcast?

    Leave us a 5-star review — it helps more mums and birth workers find the show.

    Subscribe so you don’t miss future episodes.



    Medical Disclaimer

    The content of this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not a substitute for personalised medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Listeners should always seek the guidance of their own healthcare provider, midwife, or lactation consultant with any questions they may have regarding their own situation or that of their clients. Katie James and Johanna Sargeant do not accept responsibility for any decisions made based on this content.

    Keywords:

    breastfeeding pain, nipple pain breastfeeding, normal breastfeeding pain, painful latch, laid-back breastfeeding, breastfeeding positioning, breastfeeding assessment, lactation support, midwife breastfeeding care, IBCLC support

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About The Latch Revolution

The Latch Revolution is a straight-talking lactation podcast for midwives, IBCLCs & doulas. Join Katie James & Johanna Sargeant as we explore our real-life breastfeeding practice—no holding back, saying it like it is, sharing the tips and pivots that got us through, the debates in our heads and hearts, and the odd topic that might get some knickers in a twist. If you live this work with passion and heart, this is for you. Follow and catch every drop.
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