Amelie & Lucy: Losing Dad to alcohol then campaigning for kids like me
In this powerful and deeply moving episode of COA Lives, host Jonathan Ashworth sits down with Lucy Norfolk and her 13-year-old daughter Amelie Peek—two extraordinary voices bravely speaking out about the realities facing children of alcoholics. Together, they share the story of Daniel, Amelie’s father and Lucy’s long-term partner, whose lifelong struggle with alcoholism ended tragically in 2022.
Lucy offers an unflinching account of navigating a system that repeatedly failed her family—from the lack of mental-health and rehabilitation support to the stigma and judgment that too often surrounds addiction. She describes Daniel’s rapid physical decline, the emotional toll of caring for him largely alone, and the extraordinary act of generosity he made at the end of his life: becoming an organ donor and saving others.
Amelie, wise beyond her years, talks about recognising her dad’s drinking, writing a courageous letter to the Prime Minister, and taking her campaign all the way to Downing Street. She shares her hopes for change—better support for children, restrictions on alcohol advertising, and a world where talking about addiction doesn’t come with shame.
Through honesty, humour, grief and hope, this conversation shines a light on the unseen struggles so many families face. It is a testament to resilience, to speaking up, and to the belief that by sharing our stories, we can make lasting change.
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Sarah Drage: I'd change my Ted Talk on alcohol addiction and stigma
Welcome to the first episode of “COA Lives”, a new podcast hosted by Jonathan Ashworth, former Labour MP and long-time advocate for children of alcoholics.
In this moving conversation, Jonathan speaks with Sarah Drage — a Nacoa ambassador, podcaster, and mental-health advocate whose life changed forever after losing her father, Steve, to alcohol addiction.
Sarah opens up about the emotional complexity of loving someone with addiction, the years of gaslighting and denial, the heartbreaking moment she had to decide to switch off her father’s life-support machine, and how that trauma led her into national advocacy work.
Together, Jonathan and Sarah explore:
What it means to grow up as a Child of an Alcoholic (COA)
The guilt, anger, love, and confusion that shape COA families
Why stigma kills — and how silence harms families
The price of public advocacy, both healing and painful
How childhood trauma shapes identity, adulthood, and parenting
What breaking generational cycles really looks like
This episode is tender, honest, and full of hope for anyone affected by a loved one’s drinking.
You are not alone.
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Calum Best - Every memory of dad's brilliance has a counter to it
Former Labour MP Jonathan Ashworth sits down with Calum Best — TV personality, entrepreneur, and son of football legend George Best — for an open and emotional conversation about family, addiction, and hope.
Calum shares powerful stories of growing up with his famous father, how he learned to channel pain into purpose, and why he’s dedicated to supporting the National Association for Children of Alcoholics (Nacoa UK). Together, they explore fatherhood, resilience, and how to break the cycle for future generations.
Support Nacoa UK: https://nacoa.org.uk
Nacoa provides vital help and resources for children affected by parental drinking. Please donate or become a member if you can.
Topics in this episode:
George Best’s football legacy and personal struggles
Calum’s journey through fame, loss, and recovery
The emotional impact of growing up with an alcoholic parent
Finding purpose through charity, running, and helping others
The importance of breaking stigma around addiction and mental health
Follow Jonathan Ashworth for more conversations that shine a light on untold stories and real lives.
YouTube Chapters
00:00 – Introduction: Jonathan Ashworth on why this podcast matters
00:29 – Welcoming Calum Best: TV personality and Nacoa patron
02:12 – George Best’s legacy and early life at Manchester United
04:53 – Growing up as George Best’s son
06:35 – Finding meaning and gratitude through hardship
07:23 – “I wouldn’t change a thing” – lessons from childhood
09:17 – Family connections, Manchester memories, and shared history
10:16 – The love behind the chaos: remembering their fathers
11:08 – Why telling these stories matters for children of alcoholics
13:24 – Life in California and visiting his father in London
15:08 – Lessons learned from fame, family, and the press
16:31 – The pool hall fight: a wild memory from youth
20:01 – How trauma shaped Calum’s mindset and resilience
25:14 – Reflections on addiction as illness vs. choice
29:12 – The genetic side of addiction and breaking the cycle
30:30 – Masculinity, stigma, and men’s mental health
32:18 – Running for Nacoa: the Chasing Yesterday challenge
35:26 – The tribute football matches and Calum’s love of the game
37:13 – Carrying George Best’s legacy with pride
39:57 – Using pain for purpose: the power of Nacoa
41:34 – George Best as an icon and the “fifth Beatle”
43:41 – Reflections on family, love, and his mother’s strength
44:59 – Calum’s message of gratitude and hope
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Welcome! Subscribe to 'COA Lives' with Jonathan Ashworth
I’m Jonathan Ashworth,
As a politician, in parliament I championed the cause of COAs, the children of alcoholics. It opened up a word of voices to me I’d never heard before.
Now it’s my mission to share real stories from people from all walks of life affected by parental addiction.
I know how healing it can be to find a common thread of fellow feeling. I know how painful it be to feel alone.
And through these conversations I want to shine a light on experiences too often kept in the shadows.
Come with me on this journey to explore the challenges, the hope, and the healing. This is, ‘In their Words: COA Lives.’
About In Their Words: COA Lives with Jonathan Ashworth
Hosted by former politician Jonathan Ashworth, In Their Words: COA Lives explores the hidden harm of parental addiction.
As a politician, Jonathan championed Nacoa UK the cause of Children of Alcoholics (COAs). And ended up changing the issue around the world by normalising the conversation.
Now he's ready to explore the pain and the passion that has brought his high profile guests to the COA community.
What to expect?
Each episode features honest, heartfelt conversations with people from all walks of life whose childhoods were shaped by addiction. Together, they share their journeys—the challenges, the hope, and the healing.
Whether you’re a COA yourself or simply want to understand more about the lasting effects of parental addiction, this podcast offers empathy and insight. If you are someone in recovery, you will be able to share in the stories of resilience and recovery.
Join us on this journey!
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