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Pete Townsend | GP at Norio Ventures
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    From Lean Startup to Incorruptible | Eric Ries {EP. 316]

    28/05/2026 | 26 mins.
    Pete Townsend is joined by Eric Ries, author of the New York Times bestseller The Lean Startup and founder of the Long-Term Stock Exchange, for a conversation about the invisible structural forces that corrupt even the most mission-driven companies, and what founders can do about it before it's too late.Eric's new book, Incorruptible: Why Good Companies Go Bad and How Great Companies Stay Great, is out now. Get it here: https://www.amazon.com/Incorruptible-Good-Companies-Great-Stay/dp/B0FWZZBPZBEric spent 15 years teaching a generation how to build fast and learn faster. Incorruptible asks the harder question: how do you protect what you built from the forces that will eventually try to take it from you? In this special double-length episode, he walks through the concept of financial gravity, the structural tools that the world's most durable companies have used for over a century, and why good intentions are never enough.Topics covered:– Why corporate corruption is a structural failure, not an ethical one– What financial gravity is and why it's invisible until it's too late– The Anthropic Long-Term Benefit Trust and what it was designed to protect against– How Novo Nordisk built a structure 100 years ago that protected $500 billion in shareholder value– Why Silicon Valley Bank's mission statement was worthless– The one two-page filing most founders never makeCHAPTERS00:00 The More Golden the Goose00:23 Welcome Eric Ries01:06 The Founder's Wake05:08 What Did The Lean Startup Miss?08:09 What is Financial Gravity?12:50 The Right Architecture13:11 Anthropic and the Long-Term Benefit Trust14:59 The Novo Nordisk Story18:18 Are You Smarter Than a Nobel Laureate?19:28 The Vatican Panel20:46 The Public Benefit Corporation22:41 Is LTSE Incorruptible?23:39 The Guardian of the Company's SoulConnect with Eric:X: https://x.com/ericriesLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eries/Incorruptible (book): https://incorruptible.coInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericriesactual/Newsletter: https://news.theleanstartup.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theericriesshow Podcast: https://www.ericriesshow.co Buy on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Incorruptible-Good-Companies-Great-Stay/dp/B0FWZZBPZBConnect with Pete:X: @PeteTownsendNVLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petetownsendnv/Norio Ventures: https://norioventures.comMoneyNeverSleeps: https://moneyneversleeps.ie#incorruptible #leanstartup #founders #startups
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    Why Bad Tokens Ruin Good Projects | Sal Ternullo | SVRN + A100x Ventures [EP. 315]

    22/05/2026 | 14 mins.
    Pete Townsend is joined by Sal Ternullo, CEO of SVRN and Managing Partner at A100x Ventures, for a conversation about how to tell the difference between a token that represents ownership of the value-creating thing and one that's an accelerant bolted onto something else.Sal has been underwriting these decisions at A100x at the pre-seed and seed stage. He walks through what's actually changed in the market, what a defensible answer on value accrual sounds like in a pitch meeting, and why the race-to-TGE game that defined the last cycle is largely over.Topics covered:– Why the era of tolerating tokens with no claim on cash flows is ending– How to tell whether a founder has real conviction on decentralization or is bolting a token onto an equity business– The cap-table tensions between SAFEs, token warrants, and Series A investors who can't touch tokens– Why building the product before designing the token is the new discipline– The question Sal wishes more founders walked in with an answer toCHAPTERS:00:00 Bad Tokens Ruin Good Projects00:30 Welcome Sal Ternullo01:10 What Changed in Token Value Accrual03:00 Equity vs. Token: Where Does Value Accrue04:55 Signs a Founder Has Real Conviction06:15 Ownership or Loyalty Points08:30 Tokens After 18 Months: Pump.fun and the Lag10:00 The Race to TGE Game is Over11:30 The Cap Table Reality13:00 The Question Founders Should AskConnect with Sal:X: @sal_ternulloEmail: [email protected]: https://svrn.netA100x Ventures: https://a100x.vcConnect with Pete:X: @PeteTownsendNVLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petetownsendnv/Norio Ventures: https://norioventures.comMoneyNeverSleeps: https://moneyneversleeps.ie#crypto #venturecapital #tokens
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    You Can't Code Your Way Out of Risk | Amor Sexton | Blockdaemon [EP. 314]

    08/05/2026 | 14 mins.
    You Can't Code Your Way Out | Amor Sexton, Blockdaemon
    In the last few weeks, Drift and Kelp lost $577 million between them. Neither one was a code exploit. Both were operational and governance failures.
    Amor Sexton, Chief Operating Officer at Blockdaemon, was last on MoneyNeverSleeps in October 2022 (EP 193) talking about how institutional client expectations of resilient processes would drive blockchain adoption. Three and a half years later, the industry just got an extremely expensive lesson in exactly that thesis.
    In this episode, Pete and Amor get into:
    - Why "this isn't a hack, it's a governance failure" is the conversation the industry isn't having
    - How compliance is a subset of risk — and why DeFi keeps confusing the two
    - The Web2/human layer compromise that exploits a legitimate Web3 feature
    - Pluto on Castle Island: "Everything that TradFi has built in terms of circuit breakers, we're just speed running relearning those things in crypto"
    - The Kelp configuration was a known vulnerability — and 47% of operators chose it anyway
    - The two or three governance questions every DeFi protocol and LP should be asking right now
    - Why it always comes back to people, not code
    Chapters:
    00:00 Cold open
    00:24 Welcome back to MoneyNeverSleeps
    00:55 $577M, 18 days, no code exploit
    02:00 Compliance is a subset of risk
    03:15 Guardrails and governance
    04:30 The Web2 layer compromise
    05:45 Speedrunning what TradFi already built
    07:30 Why 47% chose the risky configuration
    09:00 Three governance questions every protocol should answer
    12:30 It always comes back to people
    13:30 Sign off
    Connect with Amor:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amor-sexton/
    Blockdaemon: https://www.blockdaemon.com/
    About MoneyNeverSleeps:
    MoneyNeverSleeps is hosted by Pete Townsend, GP at Norio Ventures. Sharp riffs, big ideas, and real insights from smart people in crypto, fintech, AI, and onchain finance.
    Connect with Pete:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petetownsendnv/
    X: @petetownsendnv
    Norio Ventures: https://www.norioventures.com
    Subscribe to MoneyNeverSleeps wherever you get your podcasts:
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    #MoneyNeverSleeps #Blockdaemon #DeFi #Crypto #AmorSexton #Governance #RiskManagement
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    Making Crypto Tax Efficient | Dan Gold | Stratiphy [EP. 313]

    01/05/2026 | 12 mins.
    Dan Gold is founder and CEO of Stratiphy, and as far as anyone knows, the only platform offering tax-efficient crypto exposure to UK retail investors right now.
    The path got narrow fast. The FCA lifted the retail crypto ETN ban in October 2025. HMRC then closed the stocks-and-shares ISA route at the start of this tax year, leaving crypto ETNs eligible only for Innovative Finance ISAs, which no mainstream platform offered. Stratiphy re-opened the door, partnering with 21Shares to offer bitcoin, ether, and the new BOLD bitcoin/gold hybrid inside an ISA wrapper.
    We get into the regulatory maze, whether Bitcoin is a lottery ticket or a real line item, and what launching into a 35% drawdown tells you about who your customers actually are. Plus: why the IFAs will come around whether they like it or not.
    Follow Dan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-gold-5186091b2/
    Learn more about Stratiphy: https://www.stratiphy.io
    CHAPTERS:
    00:00 Tax-Efficient Crypto in the UK: The Short Story
    00:25 The Regulatory Sequence
    03:00 IFAs and the Education Gap
    04:00 Portfolio Construction or a Punt?
    05:30 Bitcoin: Lottery Ticket or Asset Allocation?
    08:00 Launching Into a Down Market
    09:30 Where Stratiphy Goes Nex
    t11:30 Sign-Off
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    #MoneyNeverSleeps #Crypto #Bitcoin #ISA #UKInvesting #ETN #Fintech #21Shares #Stratiphy
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    Sell More or Don't Bother - The Hard Truth of Tokenization | Alejandro Gutierrez | Solana Superteam Ireland [EP. 312]

    24/04/2026 | 14 mins.
    Tokenization has a perception problem. The industry keeps selling it as an efficiency play — less friction, more transparency, better infrastructure. But if tokenization doesn't help you sell more of whatever you've tokenized, it's irrelevant.
    Alejandro Gutierrez leads Solana Superteam Ireland and has been building in this space since before most people knew what tokenization meant. Co-founder of the Defactor DeFi protocol. Creator of a blockchain-based supply chain financing application with Consol Freight. And the only builder on a KPMG panel last week alongside the Central Bank of Ireland, Invesco, and Dillon Eustace — in a room of over a hundred people from the heart of Irish financial services.
    The POC phase is long gone. Ireland has all the ingredients. Now it's time to move product — or get left behind.
    Also: Castle DAO is coming to Slane Castle. The TradFi Band is yet to be confirmed.
    Follow Alejandro on X and LinkedIn: 
    https://x.com/A_gutierro
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/alejandro-gutierrez-98979b43/
    Follow Superteam Ireland on X and LinkedIn
    https://x.com/superteamIE
    linkedin.com/company/superteam-ireland/

    CHAPTERS: 
    00:00 Sell More or Don't Bother 
    01:00 Is Crypto Getting Boring? 
    02:00 Guardrails, Governance and the Drift and Kelp Hacks 
    03:00 The KPMG Panel — The Builder in the Room 
    05:00 The Commercial Reality of Tokenization 
    06:00 What Defactor and Consol Freight Unlocked 
    08:00 The Colombian SME and Global Capital Formation 
    09:00 Does Ireland Have What It Takes? 
    11:00 The POC Phase Is Long Gone 
    12:00 Before We Go — Buildstation, Colosseum and Castle DAO
    🌐 https://www.moneyneversleeps.ie/
    #MoneyNeverSleeps #Tokenization #Tokenisation #Solana #Ireland #DeFi #Web3 #Crypto #Fintech #Blockchain #IrishFintech #OnchainFinance
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MoneyNeverSleeps is a weekly show where smart people bring one big idea, and Pete Townsend breaks it down in under 15 minutes. Featuring founders, operators, and investors shaping crypto, fintech, AI, and onchain finance. After 300+ long-form episodes, the show has evolved into a sharper, faster format built for a world where insights need to travel quickly.
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