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She's 70 years old, holds a PhD she earned in her late 60s, and looks like she cracked the code on aging. But Dr. Catharine Arnston isn't selling a beauty secret she's sharing 17 years of research into two of the most scientifically documented superfoods on Earth: spirulina and chlorella.
In this episode of SHE MD, Mary Alice Haney and Dr. Aliabadi sit down with Dr. Catharine Arnston, Chief Scientific Officer of ENERGYbits, for one of the most eye-opening conversations we've had on this show. It started with her sister's breast cancer diagnosis and a pivot away from a 25-year corporate career. What she found in the research changed everything she thought she knew about energy, brain health, aging, and women's bodies.
This isn't wellness fluff. There are over 100,000 peer-reviewed studies on these two algae. NASA has been feeding them to astronauts for 50 years. The United Nations endorsed spirulina as the answer to world hunger. And yet most women in the Western world have never heard of them.
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What You'll Learn
Why algae was the first life on Earth and why that matters for your body
The difference between macroalgae (seaweed, kelp) and microalgae (spirulina, chlorella)
How spirulina creates cellular energy without the crash of caffeine or sugar
What phycocyanin is and how this blue pigment behaves differently in healthy versus unhealthy cells
Why mitochondria decline with age and how to protect them with nutrition
The role of superoxide dismutase (SOD) and why your body stops making it after age 30
Why menopause damages women's mitochondria twice as fast as men's
How chlorella detoxes heavy metals, glyphosate, aluminum, and other environmental toxins
Why chlorella is essential for anyone on a GLP-1 or any weight loss journey
How chlorella naturally supports serotonin, melatonin, sleep, and bowel motility
The right dosage of each algae by age, condition, and time of day
Why high heat in processing kills the benefits of most algae on the market
The truth about excess stored iron, inflammation, and "rusting from the inside" after menopause
How ENERGYbits are sourced in Taiwan in triple-filtered mountain spring water
How to use algae for weight loss, sleep, brain fog, skin health, and longevity

Key Timestamps
00:00 Welcome Dr. Catharine Arnston & Why Algae Matters
00:25 Catharine's Sister, Cancer, and the Origin of ENERGYbits
01:49 Plant-Based Nutrition and the Otto Warburg Discovery
02:46 Why People Don't Eat Vegetables (and What to Do About It)
03:28 Why No One Knows About Algae Despite 100,000 Studies
04:19 Why NASA Feeds Algae to Astronauts
04:43 Algae Is Food, Not a Supplement
06:45 "Aging Is Natural, Declining Is Not"
07:08 Macroalgae vs. Microalgae Explained
08:24 Why Lake & Ocean Algae Can Be Toxic
09:27 Spirulina: Energy at the Cellular Level
10:22 Why Algae Protein Beats Animal Protein
10:49 Dosage 101: When and How Much to Take
12:13 Phycocyanin: The Blue Pigment That Targets Unhealthy Cells
14:34 The Electron Transport Chain & ATP (The "Ferrari" Analogy)
15:48 Aging, Mitochondria & Cellular Decline
16:13 Superoxide Dismutase (SOD): The Hidden Antioxidant
17:53 Why Menopause Hits Women's Mitochondria Twice as Hard
19:38 Brain Fog, Depression & Damaged Mitochondria
20:37 Mary Alice's Family History & The Case for Prevention
22:10 How Fast You'll Feel It & Mitochondrial DNA Regeneration
23:16 Anti-Angiogenesis & Stopping Tumor Blood Supply
24:10 Chlorella: The Body's Tow Truck for Toxins
27:45 Chlorophyll, Hemoglobin & Building Your Blood
28:35 Glutathione, Liver Health & Tryptophan
29:03 Chlorella, Serotonin & Mood
29:34 Chlorella for Bowel Motility
30:25 The Athlete Protocol (NHL & NFL Dosing)
31:12 Sleep, Melatonin & Why Chlorella Works at Night
32:54 Chlorella for Chemotherapy Recovery
36:01 Pricing, Daily Cost & the Discount Code
36:45 Important: Talk to Your Oncologist Before Combining
38:17 Algae for Weight Loss & GLP-1 Support
40:32 Safety, Sourcing & Why ENERGYbits Are Grown in Taiwan
42:20 Catharine's Trip to Taiwan & Why It Matters
43:31 Excess Iron, Menopause & "Rusting From the Inside"
46:07 Final Thoughts & Why Consistency Wins
47:32 Absorption, Exosomes & Why Algae Works So Fast
48:39 Dosage for Kids, Husbands & Pets
49:41 Beauty Bits: The Pink Spirulina for Skin & Hair
51:07 Mary Alice Starts Her Algae Journey

Key Takeaways
Aging is natural, declining is not
Algae is food, not a supplement, so your body recognizes and absorbs it instantly
Spirulina nourishes & energizes, chlorella detoxes & repairs
You need both algaes for different reasons, especially after 40
Most brain issues trace back to damaged mitochondria
Women lose antioxidant and hormone protection twice as fast as men in menopause
The right dosage matters more than the right ingredient
Consistency beats intensity, your body is not a light switch
Most supplements are artificial, your body wastes up to 90% of them
Toxins live in your fat, so detoxing is part of any weight loss journey
The science exists, the connection between scientists and women is what's missing
Mother Nature provided answers long before pharmaceutical companies did
What you can't see at the cellular level is often what's hurting you most

Guest Bio
Dr. Catharine Arnston is the founder and Chief Scientific Officer of ENERGYbits, the medical-grade algae company she launched 17 years ago after pivoting from a 25-year international corporate career to research plant-based nutrition for her sister, who had been diagnosed with breast cancer. Her research led her to spirulina and chlorella, two microalgae backed by more than 100,000 scientific studies, and to a mission of bringing clean, hand-sourced algae nutrition to women, families, and elite athletes around the world. Catharine earned her health coaching certificate from the Institute for Integrative Nutrition and went on to complete her PhD in her late 60s, becoming one of the most credentialed and outspoken advocates for algae nutrition in the world. Her upcoming book, Love Your Health to Bits with Algae, set for an October release, distills 17 years of research into accessible, "science with sarcasm" guidance for the everyday reader. Catharine lives by the philosophy that "aging is natural, declining is not" and is on a mission to make algae as common in the Western world as it has been in Asia for the past 60 years.

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In this special Mother’s Day episode of SHE MD, Kris Jenner sits down for a raw, emotional, and deeply insightful conversation about motherhood, resilience, and building a life you’re proud of. From raising six children to navigating divorce and launching a global empire at 52, Kris shares the real story behind the woman the world thinks it knows.
The conversation dives into everything from her highly publicized hysterectomy and approach to proactive health, to how she built an unbreakable bond with her children. She opens up about the hardest moments of her life, how she pushed through them, and why surrounding yourself with strong women is one of the most important decisions you can make.
This episode is ultimately about perspective: motherhood as a lifelong journey, success as something you build step by step, and the reminder that it’s never too late to start over. Whether you're a new mom, navigating a tough season, or redefining your purpose, Kris shares the mindset shifts that helped her turn challenges into opportunities and create a life filled with meaning, connection, and joy.
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What You’ll Learn
How Kris approached her hysterectomy decision and why proactive health matters
The difference between hysterectomy vs. ovary removal (and why it matters)
How to navigate fear and uncertainty when it comes to your health
Why financial independence and awareness are essential for women
How to rebuild your life after divorce or a major life shift
The mindset that helped Kris go from overwhelmed mom → global businesswoman
How to raise confident, ambitious, and emotionally connected children
Why being “friends” with your kids can actually strengthen your relationship
How to balance motherhood and career (without sacrificing connection)
The importance of female friendships and building a support system
Why your 50s (and beyond) can be your most powerful era
How to handle chaos, stress, and “fires” as a parent
The role of routine, discipline, and energy management in success

Key Timestamps
0:00 Introduction to SHE MD
02:58 Introducing Kris Jenner — "America's Mother"
07:57 Kris's Hysterectomy Story
09:08 Why Postmenopausal Ovarian Cysts Matter
11:39 Hysterectomy vs. Salpingo-Oophorectomy Explained
13:25 Becoming a Mom (Six Times Over)
16:48 From Stay-at-Home Mom to Working Mom
19:28 Learning Financial Literacy After Divorce
27:25 Confidence, Grandma's Candle Store & a Donut Shop
30:20 Raising Strong Daughters by Example
32:10 Pivotal Moments, Faith & "Show Me Who Your Friends Are"
36:32 The Decision to Bring Cameras Into Their Lives
39:36 The Stripper Pole Heard 'Round the World
43:14 Turning Lemons Into Lemonade
46:29 Kris's 4:30 AM Morning Routine
55:00 The LA Fires: What She'd Grab From Her Closet
57:12 Working With Family — No Boundaries, Just Love
1:05:21 Advice for Moms Who Are Struggling
1:11:13 It's Never Too Late
1:13:31 Rapid Fire: The Daughters
1:15:24 Khloé's Sneaky Side & Big Heart
1:17:10 Facelifts, Peptides, Hormones & Supplements
1:20:25 Strength Training, Pilates & Walking
1:21:30 Non-Negotiables for Health: Get the Scan
1:23:22 Protecting Mental Health & Brain Health
1:25:32 A Mother's Day Message

Key Takeaways
Everything in life builds & no experience is wasted
You can start over at any age (Kris started her show at 52)
Motherhood is not a phase, it’s a lifelong relationship
Your kids learn more from what you do than what you say
Adversity is inevitable & resilience is a skill you build
Keep your circle small, but meaningful and supportive
Strong female friendships are a lifelong lifeline
It’s okay to feel overwhelmed, those moments pass
Preparation (financial, emotional, physical) creates freedom
Success comes from consistency, not perfection
Health is non-negotiable. Don’t ignore warning signs!
Loving yourself makes you a better parent

Guest Bio
Kris Jenner is a globally recognized businesswoman, producer, and media personality best known for building one of the most influential families and brands in modern pop culture. As the manager behind her children’s multi-billion-dollar ventures, Kris has redefined what it means to be both a mother and an entrepreneur.
Kris turned a family reality show into a global empire, becoming a pioneer in personal branding, media, and business strategy. Beyond her professional success, she is a devoted mother of six and grandmother of thirteen, known for her unwavering commitment to family, resilience through adversity, and ability to lead with both strength and heart
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In this episode of SHE MD, we sit down with entrepreneur and founder Emma Grede to unpack what it really takes to build success from the ground up. From growing up in East London to co-founding billion-dollar brands, Emma shares the unfiltered truth about ambition, confidence, and what actually creates success.
We talk about the myths holding women back… from work-life balance pressure to money mindset, imposter syndrome, and the idea that you have to “feel ready” before you start. Emma breaks down why confidence isn’t something you wait for, it’s something you build through action, failure, and repetition. She also shares how motherhood, leadership, and building businesses all collide in real life, not the curated version we see online.
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What You’ll Learn
Why confidence is built after you take action, not before
The real reason most people stay stuck (and how to break out of it)
Why “work-life balance” might be holding you back
The mindset shift that helped Emma Grede build billion-dollar brands
How to stop overthinking and start making real progress
What actually matters when building a successful career in today’s world
The truth about manifestation (and what works instead)
How to develop resilience through failure, not avoid it
What young professionals should focus on in the age of AI
Why your relationship with money can determine your future

Key Timestamps
0:00 Introduction to SHE MD
02:08 Meet Emma Grede
02:31 Career, Motherhood and Reinvention
04:08 Growing Up Without Traditional Path
06:28 Finding Confidence at a Young Age
08:19 Confidence Comes From Taking Action
10:43 Manifestation vs Putting in Real Work
12:26 Thinking in Long-Term 10 Year Goals
13:19 Taking Ownership of Your Success
14:44 Managing Emotions and Fear in Business
20:42 The Journey to Building Good American
22:29 Spotting Opportunities Others Don’t See
23:37 When Selling Out Becomes a Problem
25:18 Fixing Mistakes and Listening Customers
26:43 How AI Is Changing Work Today
28:20 Skills That Matter More Than Ever
30:55 Why Women Need Better Money Mindset
42:47 The Failure That Changed Everything
49:25 What’s Next for Emma Grede

Key Takeaways
Success comes from repetition, failure, and learning. Not perfection!
Most fear is self-created and doesn’t reflect reality
Ambition without action leads nowhere. Execution is everything!
Curiosity and adaptability are more valuable than expertise today
Building a strong reputation creates opportunities money can’t buy
Community and connection are powerful drivers of business success
The biggest breakthroughs happen when you get out of your own way

Guest Bio
Emma Grede is an entrepreneur, investor, and business leader known for building and scaling globally recognized brands across fashion and consumer goods. Raised in East London and largely self-made, she began working at a young age and built her career from the ground up, eventually launching multiple successful companies and achieving several exits before the age of 31. She is the co-founder and CEO of Good American and a founding partner of SKIMS, with a track record rooted in understanding customers, building community, and executing at a high level. A mother of four, Emma is known for her candid perspective on ambition, leadership, and modern work, and continues to champion a practical, action-driven approach to success.
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If you’re constantly bloated, tired, or struggling with hormone imbalances, your gut might be the missing piece. In this episode of SHE MD, we sit down with double board-certified physician Dr. Amy Shah to break down the powerful connection between gut health, hormones, metabolism, and brain function, and why so many women are overlooking it. From IBS and SIBO to PCOS and endometriosis, this conversation reveals how inflammation and gut imbalance can silently drive so many common symptoms.
Dr. Shah shares her simple, science-backed “30-30-3” framework (30g of protein at your first meal, 30g of fiber daily, and 3 probiotic foods) to help you rebuild your microbiome and feel better fast. We also dive into the truth about probiotics, why fiber is essential (and why most people aren’t getting enough), and how everyday habits like sleep, sunlight, and movement can dramatically improve your gut health.
Plus, we cover magnesium for stress and sleep, the role of antibiotics, how to approach SIBO and elimination diets, and the easiest (and most overlooked) ways to support your brain and body long-term. If you’ve been feeling off and can’t figure out why, this episode will give you actionable steps to start healing from the inside out.
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What You’ll Learn
The gut-hormone connection (and why it affects everything)
Dr. Shah’s “30-30-3” method for better health
Why 95% of people aren’t eating enough fiber
The difference between probiotics and prebiotics
How antibiotics impact your gut microbiome
Signs of SIBO and gut imbalance
How gut health affects mood, anxiety, and brain function
The best foods to support your microbiome
Why walking is one of the best things you can do for your brain
How magnesium supports sleep, stress, and hormone health

Key Timestamps
(0:00) Introduction to SHE MD
(2:19) Welcome, Dr. Amy Shah!
(6:23) Why Gut Health Matters
(9:02) Best High-Fiber Foods
(10:37) The 30-30-3 Rule Explained
(16:52) Apple Cider Vinegar Benefits
(22:00) Prebiotics vs Probiotics
(24:19) SIBO, Hormones & Gut Inflammation Explained
(30:07) Gut Health & Antibiotics Impact
(36:00) Organic vs Non-Organic Foods
(40:50) Magnesium Benefits, Foods, Supplements & Sleep Support
(45:19) Walking for Brain Health
(46:39) Top 5 Health Habits for Women
(47:52) Top 5 Foods
(49:27) Where to Find Dr. Amy Shah

Key Takeaways
Gut health is directly tied to hormones, metabolism, and brain health
Fiber is essential and most people are severely deficient
You can’t out-supplement a poor diet (food first always wins)
Probiotics alone won’t fix your gut—lifestyle matters more
Inflammation is the root cause linking many chronic conditions
Start small… Gradually increase fiber to avoid digestive issues
Exercise, sleep, and sunlight are just as important as nutrition
Simple daily habits can dramatically shift your health in days
Healing your gut often improves symptoms you didn’t realize were connected

Guest Bio
Dr. Amy Shah is a double board-certified physician in allergy, immunology, and internal medicine, trained at Cornell, Columbia, and Harvard. She is a leading voice in gut health, nutrition, and women’s wellness, known for translating complex science into practical, everyday strategies. After experiencing her own health struggles, she shifted her focus to lifestyle medicine and has since helped millions optimize their energy, metabolism, and hormones through diet and simple daily habits. She is also the bestselling author of I’m So Effing Tired and I’m So Effing Hungry.
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Disclaimer: This interview includes in-depth discussions of serious mental health topics, such as personality disorders and other highly sensitive subjects. These topics may be distressing or triggering for some listeners.
In this episode of SHE MD, Mary Alice Haney and Dr. Thaïs Aliabadi sit down with Dr. Suzanne Wallach, a leading expert in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT), to unpack what every woman should understand about emotional regulation, trauma, and personality disorders. From the difference between borderline personality disorder, bipolar disorder, and narcissism to the real signs of emotional dysregulation, this conversation brings clarity to topics that are often misunderstood and misdiagnosed.
Dr. Wallach breaks down how trauma shapes behavior, why narcissists rarely seek help, and what narcissistic abuse and gaslighting actually look like in relationships. The conversation also explores how to recognize unhealthy patterns, why you should never stay in a relationship where you’re being disrespected, and how emotional overwhelm impacts your ability to think clearly or problem-solve in the moment.
You’ll also learn practical, science-backed tools you can start using immediately, including DBT techniques like the TIPP method for panic attacks and emotional distress. The episode expands into parenting and generational trauma, offering insight on how to raise emotionally healthy children through validation, boundaries, and consistency. If you’ve ever struggled with your emotions, relationships, or mental health, this episode is filled with actionable strategies to help you regain control and build a more stable, grounded life.
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What You’ll Learn
The difference between borderline personality disorder (BPD), bipolar disorder, and narcissism
Why narcissists rarely self-diagnose, and why they’re difficult to treat
Signs you may be experiencing emotional dysregulation or unresolved trauma
What narcissistic abuse and gaslighting actually look like
Why BPD is often misdiagnosed as bipolar disorder
The role of childhood trauma in personality disorders
How to tell if someone is a narcissist. or just not treating you well
Why you should never stay in a relationship where you’re being disrespected
The DBT “TIPP” method for panic attacks and emotional overwhelm
How to lower distress quickly and regain control of your thoughts
Why you can’t problem-solve while emotionally flooded
The importance of sleep, nutrition, and physical health in emotional regulation
How to raise emotionally healthy children without shame or overpraise
Why validation and boundaries must coexist in parenting
How generational trauma develops, and how to break the cycle

Key Timestamps
(0:00) Introduction to SHE MD
(3:16) Welcome Dr. Suzanne Wallach!
(4:54) What Is Narcissism?
(6:36) Is Narcissism Based On Childhood Trauma?
(8:27) Borderline Personality Disorder vs Narcissism?
(12:41) Borderline vs Dependent Personality Disorder
(13:37) Cluster B Disorders: Higher Risk of Self-Harm & Suicide
(14:05) Women Are Overdiagnosed With Personality Disorders
(15:58) Many Therapists Avoid Treating Borderline Personality Disorder
(22:15) DBT Skills Coaching: 24/7 Support in Crisis Moments
(23:36) Thoughts vs Ideation
(27:00) How Dr. Suzanne Handle Patients With Suicide Plans
(30:29) Does Trauma Come First in Treating Cluster B Disorders
(37:35) How to Avoid Raising a Narcissist as a Parent
(38:20) Praise Parenting: Where’s the Healthy Balance?
(42:24) Opposite Parenting Styles After Divorce
(48:01) Should Trauma Be the First Focus in Treating DBT?
(58:54) How to Recognize BPD or Narcissism: Key Signs & Diagnosis
(1:02:44) What Is Bipolar Disorder?
(1:04:40) Bipolar vs BPD: Genetics vs Trauma
(1:05:05) The TIPP Skill
(1:13:45) Rapid Fire Questions

Key Takeaways
You can’t think clearly during emotional distress. Regulation must come first
Personality disorders are treatable, and many can go into remission
Trauma often drives behavior, but it doesn’t excuse staying in harmful situations
Emotional regulation is a skill that can be learned with the right tools
Boundaries are essential, even when you understand someone’s pain
Parenting requires both emotional validation and consistent consequences
Small daily tools (like breathing or cold exposure) can dramatically reduce anxiety

Guest Bio
Dr. Suzanne Wallach is a clinical psychologist and DBT specialist based in Los Angeles. She is the founder of SoCal DBT, where she and her team provide high-fidelity, evidence-based Dialectical Behavior Therapy for individuals, couples, and families. Her work focuses on helping patients regulate emotions, heal from trauma, and build healthier relationships through practical, science-backed tools.
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