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L’Oréal CMO Han Wen on The Power of Listening First
When Han Wen got a job at L’Oréal as an entry-level marketing associate, she didn’t even know what marketing was. The interviewers didn’t care. They spent the bulk of the interview talking about her bold outfit, which she got off the sales rack at J.Crew just an hour before. Fast forward to 2022, and Han became the CMO of L’Oréal USA at just 39-years-old. Talk about a full circle moment. Han shares how she made impressions throughout her corporate career, and how she’s gotten really good at listening – even when it might be hard to hear.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Han shares:
Why her work stint in France was nothing like “Emily in Paris”
The best lesson she learned about being a people manager
What she focused on instead of chasing after titles during her career
How having kids destroyed any illusion of control, and how it carries into her work
Why L’Oréal encourages some rule-bending to make great products
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Mother Untitled’s Neha Ruch on Rebranding Stay-At-Home Motherhood
Neha Ruch chose to take an indefinite pause from work after having her second child. She immediately faced raised eyebrows and unsolicited advice. She didn’t bat an eye at her choice. But the reactions got her thinking: why are we riding on outdated stereotypes about moms choosing to exit the workforce to take care of their family for a chapter of their lives? Enter: Mother Untitled, the leading platform dedicated to ambitious women choosing to lean into family life – without shame. Today, Neha shares tips from her new book The Power Pause to help listeners pull it off like pro.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Neha shares:
The importance of her gap year in India and what it did for her self-trust
Why she couldn’t find the peace and purpose at work that she got from motherhood
How stay-at-home-motherhood has been wrongfully labeled as a “luxury”
The percentage of women who stop working because of high childcare costs
Financial levers couples can pull to make room in the budget for a future pause
Neha’s Instagram: @motheruntitled
Neha’s book: The Power Pause: How to Plan a Career Break After Kids – and Come Back Stronger Than Ever
Carly and Danielle’s Instagram: @carlyanddanielle
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Morgan Stanley CMO Alice Milligan on Why Your Career is a Marathon, Not a Sprint
Alice Milligan left home at 19 to escape a dysfunctional family life. Her peers went to college right out of high school. Meanwhile, Alice spent ten years getting her college degree while working full-time to support herself. She had no choice but to be resilient, independent, and patient. Decades later, and faced with choosing between a dream job or staying near her husband awaiting a liver transplant, Alice shares how the patience she cultivated as a young woman guided her choice.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Alice shares:
Her deep cut bagel order (cinnamon raisin fans, rejoice)
The strong women in her life who helped her navigate leaving home
Why working in HR in her early career served her well throughout her career
How she rationalized her choice of remaining close to her family or taking on her dream job
How Morgan Stanley prioritizes women feeling financially empowered – and how the company’s new marketing initiatives reflect that
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Connie Chung on Outwitting the Boys Club
She’s an icon, she’s a legend, and she is the moment. Connie Chung is the trailblazing veteran broadcaster who worked her way up from being a copy-girl at a local news station to anchoring one of the most popular nightly newscasts, CBS Evening News. To get there, she had to make it through the “boys club” of the 70s newsroom. Think: Mad Men, but news. She says it could’ve been worse. But she made it work by being just as confident as they were.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Connie shares:
The impact of growing up around four strong-willed sisters
How she defied the racist and sexist stereotypes men had of her
Her biggest regret of her career and how she reconciles it now
Why getting fired from CBS Evening News proved to be serendipitous
A cameo from her husband, Maury Povich. Yes, that Maury
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Jessica Alba and Lizzy Mathis on Prioritizing Your Mental Health as a Mom
Welcome back to a new season of 9 to 5ish. We’re kicking things off with Jessica Alba and Lizzy Mathis, two best friends and co-hosts of the show “Honest Renovations” on The Roku Channel. There are plenty of home renovation shows out there. But theirs highlights the importance of mom having their own space to recharge. As moms of three kids each, they learned that the hard way.
In this episode of 9 to 5ish, Jessica and Lizzy share:
Their friendship origin story and why Lizzy lied to Jessica about her age for years
How they took the jump from being friends to becoming co-hosts of a show
Why surface-level friendships don’t last in business partnerships
The burnout of filling others’ cups before their own, and how they fixed it
Tips on dealing with the highs and lows of the holiday season
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