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The Practice Playbook Podcast with Susan Guthrie

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  • The Practice Playbook Podcast with Susan Guthrie

    Are You Building a Firm or Just a High-Paying Job? | The Founder Dependency Trap with Andrea Steinbrenner on the Practice Playbook Podcast #555

    19/02/2026 | 50 mins.
    Are you building a firm, or have you really built yourself a very high-paying job? That is a question every entrepreneurial professional needs to confront at some point, whether you are five years into practice or thirty-five. This week, Susan Guthrie welcomes Andrea Steinbrenner for a thoughtful and eye-opening conversation about what it truly means to build something that can sustain itself beyond the founder.

    Andrea is the CEO and Partner of Exit Consulting Group, where she helps business owners plan for succession, transition, and exit. A former fractional CFO and operational leader, she brings deep strategic and practical experience. What makes this conversation especially powerful is that she does not view exit planning as simply a transaction. She frames it as something much bigger.  It is about transition, legacy, and long-term relevance.

    Together, Susan and Andrea explore what happens when a business is built around one person, the emotional and practical challenges of letting go, and what it really takes to create something that can endure. 

    Whether you plan to sell, wind down, pass your work on, or simply want more freedom in your life, this conversation invites you to consider an essential truth: A business that depends entirely on you is inherently fragile, and building something that lasts requires intentional planning long before any transition begins.

    What You’ll Learn:

    Why a business that cannot run without you is not yet transferable and what that actually means about structure, not success

    How to think about exit strategy as transition, legacy, and future freedom rather than simply selling

    Why timing matters and how early structural changes create more options later

    How to assess whether you are building a scalable firm or sustaining a high performing job

    Where founder dependency shows up and how to identify if you are a single point of failure

    One practical step you can take in the next ninety days to build real leverage in your business

    Guest

    Andrea Steinbrenner is the Chief Executive Officer and Partner of Exit Consulting Group, Inc. (ECG), where she leads with strategic vision and cultural integrity. Her career spans retail management, accounting, and operations, including serving as a fractional CFO and VP of Operations at TGG Accounting, where she helped scale the firm significantly. After earning her EMBA, she founded Canopy Consulting before joining ECG in 2019, rising from consultant to COO and ultimately CEO in 2022. Known for her clear communication and “Tarzan” analogy of bridging strategy and execution, Andrea prioritizes active listening to align company goals with client success. Outside of work, she enjoys baking, hiking, reading, and raising poodles with her husband, Todd.

    Connect with Andrea:
    Website: https://exitconsultinggroup.com/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreasteinbrenner/

    Featured Companion Resource: The Founder Independence Scorecard
    Take this conversation from insight to action with The Founder Independence Scorecard, a companion resource created for this episode.

    This short, strategic self assessment helps you see clearly whether you are building a scalable firm or sustaining a high performing job. More importantly, it helps you identify where you are structurally strong, where you may be a single point of failure, and one practical move you can make in the next ninety days to build real leverage.

    Download the companion scorecard here:

    bit.ly/PPP-Founder-Scorecard

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    Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie
    Susan E. Guthrie is one of the most respected voices in mediation and conflict resolution today. A nationally recognized family law attorney and mediator for 35 years, she is now a top professional coach and consultant helping dispute resolution and legal professionals build thriving, modern practices.

    Susan recently appeared on The Oprah Daily Podcast, expanding her reach to an even broader audience and highlighting her role as a trusted expert in divorce, communication, and modern conflict resolution. She is also the creator and host of The Divorce & Beyond Podcast, ranked in the top 1% worldwide, with millions of listeners and a global following.

    As Immediate Past Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan continues to shape the future of the profession while training and mentoring practitioners around the world.

    Connect with Susan E. Guthrie
    Website: https://susaneguthrie.com
    Books: https://susaneguthrie.com/susans-books
    LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/susaneguthrie
    Instagram: @susaneguthrie and @practiceplaybookpodcast 

     

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  • The Practice Playbook Podcast with Susan Guthrie

    Revenue Isn’t the Goal. Profit Is. Darren Wurz on What Really Matters on the Practice Playbook Podcast #554

    05/02/2026 | 48 mins.
    This is not your typical episode on profitability. Susan Guthrie welcomes guest Darren Wurz,CFP®, who brings a fresh and innovative approach to what profit really means for legal professionals. He explains why chasing higher revenue alone can actually leave firm owners feeling more stressed, stretched thin, and disconnected from the life they want their practice to support.

    Darren is the founder of The Lawyer Millionaire and a fiduciary financial planner who works exclusively with law firm owners. He brings a rare perspective shaped by his background as an educator and his deep understanding of both business strategy and personal finance.

    In this conversation, they dig into what profitability really means, why growing a firm can actually reduce profit if you’re not careful, and the practical systems that help lawyers keep more of what they earn while building businesses that support the lives they want.

    This episode invites you to slow down, challenge familiar assumptions, and think about profit in a more intentional, sustainable way.

    What You’ll Learn:

    Why profitability is not the same thing as revenue, and how a growing practice can still leave you financially strained if you’re not being intentional 

    How separating business and personal finances, paying yourself consistently, and setting profit aside on purpose can transform both your numbers and your decision-making

    Why profitability is a team sport, and how aligning your staff around clear financial goals leads to better choices across the firm

    The hidden cost of rushed decisions, and why slowing down to think strategically can protect your profit and your long-term vision

    Guest

    Darren Wurz, CFP®, is the founder of The Lawyer Millionaire®. He is a fiduciary financial planner who works exclusively with law firm owners, helping them bridge the gap between running a successful practice and actually building lasting wealth.

    What makes Darren’s perspective so compelling is his path. He didn’t come up through traditional finance sales. He started as a teacher, driven by a genuine commitment to helping people grow, and that mindset carries through everything he does today.

    Through his work with lawyers across the country, Darren saw a pattern that will sound very familiar to many of you. Talented, driven professionals bringing in good revenue, but still struggling with cash flow, taxes, long-term planning, and the question of what all that hard work is really building toward.

    So he built something that didn’t exist. A flat-fee advisory firm designed specifically for law firm owners, combining business strategy, tax-smart planning, and personal financial coaching.

    Connect with Darren

    Community: https://community.lawyermillionaire.com
    Website: https://thelawyermillionaire.com
    Podcast: https://www.lawyermillionaire.com/the-lawyer-millionaire-podcast
    Book: https://www.lawyermillionaire.com/the-lawyer-millionaire-book

    Related Resources

    Download the Law Firm Profit First Set Up Guide and Instant Cash Flow Assessment

    Profit First by Mike Michalowicz

    Simple Numbers, Straight Talk, Big Profits by Greg Crabtree

    The Great Game of Business by Jack Stack

    The Road Less Stupid by Keith Cunningham

    Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie

    Susan E. Guthrie is one of the most respected voices in mediation and conflict resolution today. A nationally recognized family law attorney and mediator for 35 years, she is now a top professional coach and consultant helping dispute resolution and legal professionals build thriving, modern practices. 

    Susan recently appeared on The Oprah Daily Podcast, expanding her reach to an even broader audience and highlighting her role as a trusted expert in divorce, communication, and modern conflict resolution. She is also the creator and host of The Divorce & Beyond Podcast, ranked in the top 1% worldwide, with millions of listeners and a global following.

    As Immediate Past Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan continues to shape the future of the profession while training and mentoring practitioners around the world.

    Connect with Susan E. Guthrie

    Website: https://susaneguthrie.com

    Books: https://susaneguthrie.com/susans-books

    LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/susaneguthrie

    Instagram: @susaneguthrie and @practiceplaybookpodcast

     

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  • The Practice Playbook Podcast with Susan Guthrie

    Why LinkedIn Likes Aren't Growing Your Practice (And What Actually Does) with Susan Guthrie on the Practice Playbook Podcast #553

    22/01/2026 | 15 mins.
    You’re posting on LinkedIn. People are liking and commenting on your posts. And yet, when you look at your practice, nothing has really changed.

    In this episode, Susan Guthrie unpacks a pattern she sees repeatedly in workshops, retreats, and strategy sessions with experienced professionals using LinkedIn. The effort is there. The consistency is there. But the results do not match the visibility.

    Susan explores why LinkedIn engagement can be misleading, how professionals get stuck being visible without being positioned, and how to use the platform as a long-term trust builder rather than a popularity contest.

    What You’ll Learn:

    Why LinkedIn likes and comments reflect agreement, not trust, and what decision-makers are actually evaluating before they reach out

    How the content that leads to clients often receives less engagement, and why authority-signaling posts work differently by design

    How to tell when your LinkedIn visibility is not positioning you clearly, and why positioning matters more than posting consistency

    Related Resources

    The Business Planning Playbook

    The Flat Fee Playbook

    The Thought Leadership Playbook

    Upcoming Live Session
    🎙 Ask Susan Anything: New Year Practice Building Focus
    📅 February 2 at 11am CT

    A free live session for dispute resolution professionals ready to break old patterns and build smarter strategies.

    Register here: https://lnkd.in/ggtQJudk

    Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie
    Susan E. Guthrie is one of the most respected voices in mediation and conflict resolution today. A nationally recognized family law attorney and mediator for 35 years, she is now a top professional coach and consultant helping dispute resolution and legal professionals build thriving, modern practices.

    Susan recently appeared on The Oprah Daily Podcast, expanding her reach to an even broader audience and highlighting her role as a trusted expert in divorce, communication, and modern conflict resolution. She is also the creator and host of The Divorce & Beyond Podcast, ranked in the top 1% worldwide, with millions of listeners and a global following.

    As Immediate Past Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan continues to shape the future of the profession while training and mentoring practitioners around the world.

    Connect with Susan E. Guthrie
    Website: https://susaneguthrie.com
    Books: https://susaneguthrie.com/susans-books
    LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/susaneguthrie
    Instagram: @susaneguthrie and @practiceplaybookpodcast
  • The Practice Playbook Podcast with Susan Guthrie

    The Future of Dispute Resolution Is Already Here: 3 Trends for 2026 with Susan Guthrie on the Practice Playbook Podcast #552

    15/01/2026 | 20 mins.
    What trends will shape dispute resolution in 2026?
    How should mediators and arbitrators adapt right now?
    And what does this mean for your business plan going forward?

    In this episode of The Practice Playbook Podcast, Susan Guthrie breaks down the three most important trends shaping dispute resolution in 2026 and explains how dispute resolution professionals can use these shifts to future-proof their practices.

    This conversation grew out of Susan’s work on the third book in the Practice Playbook Series, The Business Planning Playbook, and centers on one essential idea:

    A business plan is not a one-and-done document.
    It is a living strategy that must evolve as the world and your practice change.

    You will learn how AI is becoming infrastructure in dispute resolution, why the profession is moving beyond hourly billing, and how specialization in emerging practice areas is driving growth in the U.S. and globally.

    This episode also includes a free downloadable handout with sample AI prompts to help you apply these ideas immediately.

    What You’ll Learn

    Why AI is now part of everyday dispute resolution practice

    How AI can support pricing analysis and innovative fee models

    Why the shift is not flat fees versus hourly billing, but moving beyond hourly billing entirely

    How AI Deep Research and Learning Mode can help you identify emerging practice areas

    Why specialization is driving visibility and opportunity in 2026

    How emerging trends should inform your business plan this year and beyond

    The 3 Trends Covered
    1. AI as Infrastructure
    AI is no longer optional. Used responsibly, it enhances judgment, preparation, and workflow efficiency.

    2. Moving Beyond Hourly Billing
    Clients want clarity and predictability. Innovative pricing models align services with value, not time.

    3. Specialization and Emerging Practice Areas
    Growth is increasingly driven by depth, particularly in areas like data privacy, employment, and ESG-related disputes.

    Free Download: AI Prompt Handout
    Download the companion resource to this episode, including sample AI prompts to help you:

    Evaluate your current pricing

    Explore innovative pricing models

    Research emerging practice areas

    Build a learning and positioning plan

    📥 Download here:
    https://susaneguthrie.thinkific.com/products/digital_downloads/ai-placeholder-8

     

    Related Resources

    The Business Planning Playbook

    The Flat Fee Playbook

    The Thought Leadership Playbook

    Upcoming Live Session
    🎙 Ask Susan Anything: New Year Practice Building Focus
    📅 February 2

    A free live session for dispute resolution professionals ready to break old patterns and build smarter strategies.

    Register here: https://lnkd.in/ggtQJudk

     

    Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie

    Susan E. Guthrie is one of the most respected voices in mediation and conflict resolution today. A nationally recognized family law attorney and mediator for 35 years, she is now a top professional coach and consultant helping dispute resolution and legal professionals build thriving, modern practices.

    Susan recently appeared on The Oprah Daily Podcast, expanding her reach to an even broader audience and highlighting her role as a trusted expert in divorce, communication, and modern conflict resolution. She is also the creator and host of The Divorce & Beyond Podcast, ranked in the top 1% worldwide, with millions of listeners and a global following.

    As Immediate Past Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan continues to shape the future of the profession while training and mentoring practitioners around the world.

    Connect with Susan E. Guthrie
    Website: https://susaneguthrie.com

    Books: https://susaneguthrie.com/susans-books

    LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/susaneguthrie

    Instagram: @susaneguthrie and @practiceplaybookpodcast
  • The Practice Playbook Podcast with Susan Guthrie

    The Mediator’s Edge: Experience, Intuition, and the Skills That Endure with Lawrence Kolin on the Practice Playbook Podcast #551

    08/01/2026 | 44 mins.
    In a profession increasingly shaped by AI, virtual platforms, and rapid technological change, it is easy to believe that success depends on mastering the newest tools. In this episode, we take a different approach.

    Susan Guthrie is joined by veteran mediator and arbitrator Lawrence Kolin for a grounded, insightful conversation about what actually gets cases settled and why the core skills of peacemaking still matter more than ever.

    With nearly twenty-five years of experience resolving complex disputes, Lawrence has practiced through sweeping changes in how mediation is conducted. Yet his message is clear: while the tools have evolved, human nature has not. Trust, intuition, preparation, and the ability to read people in the room remain the true differentiators for effective neutrals.

    This episode explores why experienced mediators continue to succeed even as the profession evolves and what practitioners at every stage can learn from returning to fundamentals.

    In this episode, you’ll hear:

    Why mediation’s core principles have endured for thousands of years

    The limits of technology and what AI cannot replace in dispute resolution

    How experienced neutrals identify the true “nub” of a dispute

    The information paradox in modern mediation and why more data does not always lead to better outcomes

    How trust, reputation, and word of mouth still drive mediator selection

    The role of intuition, judgment, and experience in moving parties toward agreement

    Why adaptability and curiosity are essential skills for long-term success

    Whether you are building your practice, refining your craft, or navigating a rapidly changing professional landscape, this conversation is a powerful reminder of where the real edge comes from.

    Guest:
    Lawrence Kolin is an AV-Rated, Preeminent Super Lawyer and a highly respected mediator and arbitrator who has resolved thousands of cases in state, federal, and appellate courts. A former General Magistrate in Florida’s Ninth Judicial Circuit, Lawrence now serves as a neutral panelist with Upchurch Watson White & Max, the American Health Law Association, and the American Arbitration Association.

    Contact Lawrence Kolin: 

    Email: [email protected]

    Blog: www.OrlandoMediator.blogspot.com 

    LinkedIn:  https://linkedin.com/in/lkolin

     

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    Get Susan's Latest Book and Start 2026 with a Plan!

    The Business Plan Playbook is a practical guide for dispute resolution professionals and legal entrepreneurs who want to build a sustainable, intentional practice. This book walks you through how to clarify your vision, define your ideal work, structure your services, and make smart business decisions in a profession that is evolving quickly. It is not about predicting the future. It is about creating a framework you can rely on as your practice grows and changes.

    Learn more about the book and explore Susan’s full collection of titles here:
    https://susaneguthrie.com/susans-books

     

    Meet Our Creator and Host: Susan Guthrie

    Susan E. Guthrie is one of the most respected voices in mediation and conflict resolution today. A nationally recognized family law attorney and mediator for 35 years, she is now a top professional coach and consultant helping dispute resolution and legal professionals build thriving, modern practices.

    Susan recently appeared on The Oprah Daily Podcast, expanding her reach to an even broader audience and highlighting her role as a trusted expert in divorce, communication, and modern conflict resolution. She is also the creator and host of The Divorce & Beyond Podcast, ranked in the top 1% worldwide, with millions of listeners and a global following.

    As Immediate Past Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution, Susan continues to shape the future of the profession while training and mentoring practitioners around the world.

    Connect with Susan E. Guthrie
    Website: https://susaneguthrie.com

    Books: https://susaneguthrie.com/susans-books

    LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/susaneguthrie

    Instagram: @susaneguthrie and @practiceplaybookpodcast

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About The Practice Playbook Podcast with Susan Guthrie

Welcome to The Practice Playbook Podcast, the go-to show for legal and dispute resolution professionals who want more than just survival in their practices; they want strategy, sustainability, and success. Hosted by best-selling author, attorney, mediator, and practice development expert Susan E. Guthrie, this podcast brings you straight-talking insights, actionable tips, and real-world advice on what it takes to thrive in today’s evolving professional landscape. Whether you're a lawyer, mediator, coach, or consultant, you'll learn how to build a business that reflects your values, supports your lifestyle, and positions you as a trusted expert. Each episode pulls from the strategies in The Practice Playbook book series, featuring topics like: Ditching the billable hour and implementing flat fees with confidence Building a thought leadership brand that attracts ideal clients Using AI and technology to streamline your workflow and boost productivity Mastering client experience, referrals, and pricing strategy Real-world case studies, expert interviews, and practice-building stories From the creator of The Flat Fee Playbook, The Thought Leadership Playbook, and The Practice Accelerator membership community - this is your weekly shot of clarity, confidence, and momentum. Your practice doesn’t have to be overwhelming. It just needs a better playbook.
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