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    The business of international arbitration with Boies Schiller’s Tim Foden

    10/06/2026 | 36 mins.
    Tim Foden is co-head of the international arbitration group at Boies Schiller Flexner in London.
    In this episode, he joins the podcast to discuss his path into arbitration, his time at Allen & Overy and Quinn Emanuel, and why he believes specialist disputes firms offer something fundamentally different to full-service law firms.
    The conversation explores the business of international arbitration, from commercial disputes between companies to high-stakes claims brought by investors against states.
    Tim explains how investment treaty arbitration works in practice, why resource nationalism continues to drive disputes around the world, and what it is like handling cases involving governments, mining projects and politically sensitive assets.
    Tim also shares his perspective on litigation funding, pushing back on the idea that funders encourage weak claims. He explains how funding has become a critical tool for many claimants, how funded cases are assessed, and why the UK Supreme Court’s PACCAR decision has had less impact on his practice than many predicted.
    Finally, we discuss London's position as a global disputes hub, the outlook for arbitration and collective actions, and Boies Schiller Flexner's growth plans in the UK as the firm continues to expand its London disputes practice.
    The Non-Billable Podcast is sponsored by Legora. To find out more about Legora, visit: https://legora.com/
    Today’s episode is also supported by Definely. To find out more about Definely, visit: https://www.definely.com/nonbillable
    Chapters
    00:01 Introduction
    01:34 From courtroom dramas to international arbitration
    03:10 Allen & Overy, Quinn Emanuel and life at a disputes boutique
    05:06 Why specialist disputes firms think differently
    10:48 Joining Boies Schiller and rebuilding the London office
    16:16 The business of international arbitration and investor-state disputes
    22:30 Litigation funding, PACCAR and access to justice
    30:59 Why London remains the world's leading disputes hub
    33:55 The future of disputes and Boies Schiller's growth plans in London
    About Non-Billable
    Non-Billable is the media company for modern legal professionals across private practice, in-house and legal tech.
    Visit our website: ⁠⁠https://www.nonbillable.co.uk
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    Why US firms are still winning the talent battle in London

    27/05/2026 | 51 mins.
    Headhunter Scott Gibson returns to the podcast for a wide-ranging conversation on what’s going on in the London partner market. As co-founder of Edwards Gibson, Scott tracks every major partner move in the City and has one of the clearest views of how the market is moving beneath the surface.
    We discuss why partner movement remains near record levels despite a tougher economic backdrop, the continued influence of US firms in London, and how areas like private capital, infrastructure and real estate are driving demand. Scott also explains why mergers create far more disruption than firms like to admit, and why that often leads to opportunities elsewhere in the market.
    The conversation also dives into the changing economics of partnership itself. Scott breaks down the rise of non-equity partnership structures, why UK firms face a “home turf disadvantage” against US rivals, and how compensation systems are evolving as firms compete for rainmakers.
    We also talk about whether partnership is still as attractive as it once was, what top firms are really looking for when they hire laterals, and why law firms today may be more fragile than many lawyers realise.
    The Non-Billable Podcast is sponsored by Legora. To find out more about Legora, visit: https://legora.com/
    Today’s episode is also supported by Definely. To find out more about Definely, visit: https://www.definely.com/nonbillable
    Chapters
    00:01 Introduction
    02:26 The London partner recruitment market explained
    04:21 Why partner moves hit record highs in 2025
    08:17 The hottest practice areas in Big Law right now
    11:37 Will restructuring finally boom in London?
    14:41 Are Magic Circle firms fighting back against US rivals?
    21:30 What law firms really want from lateral partner hires
    27:06 The rise of non-equity partnership in Big Law
    45:44 Which recent law firm mergers will actually work
    About Non-Billable
    Non-Billable is the media company for modern legal professionals across private practice, in-house and legal tech.
    Visit our website: ⁠⁠https://www.nonbillable.co.uk
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    Inside Lawfront: The PE-backed law firm group betting big on consolidation

    20/05/2026 | 35 mins.
    Axel Koelsch, COO of private equity-backed legal group Lawfront, joins the podcast to discuss how outside investment is reshaping the UK legal market and why he believes consolidation is still in its early stages.
    Koelsch explains how Lawfront’s model works in practice, why the group allows firms to retain their brands and leadership teams, and how central investment in areas like technology, operations and business services is becoming increasingly important as law firms face growing competitive pressure.
    The conversation also explores what lawyers often misunderstand about private equity, the operational lessons Koelsch brought from senior roles at firms including Freshfields and Addleshaw Goddard, and why the traditional partnership model can struggle to move quickly enough in a rapidly changing market.
    Finally, Koelsch discusses the future of the sector, including AI, scale, talent and why he expects further consolidation across both the regional and commercial law firm markets in the years ahead.
    The Non-Billable Podcast is sponsored by Legora. To find out more about Legora, visit: https://legora.com/
    Today’s episode is also supported by Definely. To find out more about Definely, visit: https://www.definely.com/nonbillable
    Chapters
    00:01 Introduction
    01:30 Axel’s journey from lawyer to law firm COO
    03:25 Applying consultant-style strategy inside major law firms
    07:18 Why Axel joined Lawfront
    10:38 Inside Lawfront’s “national scale for regional leaders” model
    14:31 How Lawfront integrates firms without losing culture
    20:08 The Lawfront growth playbook: recruitment, pricing and EBITDA
    22:25 Why equity partnership is becoming less attractive to lawyers
    27:46 Why Axel believes consolidation in UK law is inevitable
    About Non-Billable
    Non-Billable is the media company for modern legal professionals across private practice, in-house and legal tech.
    Visit our website: ⁠⁠https://www.nonbillable.co.uk
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    How private equity is changing the legal market in Sweden

    12/05/2026 | 29 mins.
    In this episode, Maria-Pia Hope - former managing partner of top Swedish law firm Vinge and now CEO of private equity-backed legal group AGRD - explains why she believes the legal market is entering a “paradigm shift” driven by AI, technology and changing client expectations.
    Backed by Nordic PE firm Axcel, AGRD has already brought together eight Swedish commercial firms and is now one of the country’s largest legal groups.
    Maria-Pia discusses how the model works in practice, with firms retaining their own brands, clients and day-to-day independence while pooling resources around AI, technology and central functions. The aim, she says, is to help entrepreneurial firms embrace industry change without losing their culture or identity, while also benefiting from faster decision-making and longer-term investment horizons.
    The conversation also explores how private equity’s role in legal is evolving, with Maria-Pia arguing that modern investors bring expertise, operational support and strategic thinking rather than simply focusing on cost-cutting. She also discusses AGRD’s plans to expand further across the Nordics and eventually into the UK market, where the group sees significant opportunity.
    The Non-Billable Podcast is sponsored by Legora. To find out more about Legora, visit: https://legora.com/
    Today’s episode is also supported by Definely. To find out more about Definely, visit: https://www.definely.com/nonbillable
    Chapters
    00:01 Introduction
    01:30 Leading Sweden’s top law firm Vinge
    03:50 Why Maria-Pia joined private equity-backed AGRD
    06:07 Building a group of entrepreneurial commercial law firms
    08:38 The “Nordic governance model” and preserving firm independence
    11:15 AGRD’s AI and technology strategy
    13:00 How private equity-backed law firms operate day-to-day
    18:00 Leaving the Swedish Bar Association to take PE investment
    19:50 AGRD’s UK expansion plans and the future of legal consolidation
    About Non-Billable
    Non-Billable is the media company for modern legal professionals across private practice, in-house and legal tech.
    Visit our website: ⁠⁠https://www.nonbillable.co.uk
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    The private wealth opportunity behind Taylor Wessing’s US merger

    06/05/2026 | 30 mins.
    Today, we unpack the private wealth angle of Taylor Wessing’s merger with Winston & Strawn. Partners Gabriel Estevez and Nick Warr explain how the firm defines private wealth as a holistic, multi-service offering built around high net worth individuals and families, rather than a narrow private client practice.
    They discuss how the market has evolved, with clients becoming more international and more sophisticated in how they structure and invest their wealth. Today, the vast majority of clients operate across multiple jurisdictions, and the rise of second and third-generation wealth is driving a more institutional approach to decision-making.
    The conversation also touches on the migration of wealth out of the UK, with hubs like Milan and Dubai gaining traction. While recent tax changes have accelerated the trend, the shift has been underway for years - and for globally positioned firms, it often creates more complex, cross-border work.
    Finally, they look ahead to the Winston Taylor combination, with private wealth set to be a core pillar of the new firm. The ambition is to build a genuinely integrated US-UK offering - something the market has so far struggled to deliver at scale.
    The Non-Billable Podcast is sponsored by Legora. To find out more about Legora, visit: https://legora.com/
    Today’s episode is also supported by Definely. To find out more about Definely, visit: https://www.definely.com/nonbillable
    Chapters
    00:01 Introduction
    01:30 Private wealth vs private client: what’s the difference?
    02:54 How the private wealth market has evolved
    04:37 The rise of international, mobile wealth
    06:27 Are high net worth individuals really leaving the UK?
    09:32 What private wealth lawyers actually do day-to-day
    14:10 How Taylor Wessing positions its private wealth practice
    20:10 Winning clients in a relationship-driven market
    23:48 What the Winston Taylor merger means for private wealth
    About Non-Billable
    Non-Billable is the media company for modern legal professionals across private practice, in-house and legal tech.
    Visit our website: ⁠⁠https://www.nonbillable.co.uk
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About The Non-Billable Podcast
The Non-Billable Podcast takes UK legal professionals beyond the billable hour, bringing you interviews with top lawyers, law firm leaders, industry experts and legal tech innovators to uncover actionable insights on the business of law, career growth and the future of the industry. Hosted by Oliver Attinger, a former finance lawyer at a leading City law firm, and brought to you by Non-Billable, the legal media platform for City lawyers, in-house counsel, and legal professionals.
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