The Post Game Podcast

• #88 - Drew Shore: Life After the NHL, Building Amalfi, and Finding Purpose Beyond the Game

  Drew Shore is a former NHL player with the Florida Panthers, Calgary Flames, and Vancouver Canucks. After retiring from hockey, he transitioned into the business world, building a career as both an agent and a founder of Amalfi, an exclusive community helping athletes transition into business and connect with top entrepreneurs.Drew is also the host of a podcast Betting The Limit, where he talks to athletes who have successfully pivoted into the business world.What You'll Hear About:Why Drew views his hockey career as a “failure” and how that mindset fueled his business successThe mental side of hockeyHis transition into athlete representation with WassermanLaunching the “Betting The Limit” podcast Building Amalfi, an exclusive community helping athletes transition into business and connect with top entrepreneursWhy athletes should start building relationships before retirementHockey culture and missing the locker roomAdvice for current and former athletes on finding purpose after sportsTimestamps:(0:00) – Intro to Drew(2:40) – Growing up with three brothers & early hockey career(4:00) – Scoring a goal in the NHL(5:50) – When things didn’t go as planned(6:55) – Viewing “failure” as opportunity(7:50) – The mental game of hockey(9:00) – Transition to becoming an agent at Wasserman (11:55) – Starting Betting The Limit (13:55) – The origin of Amalfi(15:25) – How Amalfi compares to YPO(17:40) – The Shadow Creek event experience(20:55) – Daily highs and lows of entrepreneurship(22:10) – Balancing pricing and access for young athletes(23:25) – Does retirement uncertainty ever fade?(24:40) – Playing again at the DU charity game(27:10) – Closing the 5-year post-retirement gap(29:10) – Hockey media & athlete personalities(32:10) – The culture of hockey (33:40) – Advice for retiring athletes(35:10) – Building brand portfolios differently today(36:00) – Where to find DrewLinks:Drew Shore InstagramBetting The Limit InstagramJoin Amalfi WebsiteDrew Shore LinkedInDrew Shore (@Drew22Shore) / XThe Post Game Podcast:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://postgamepodcast.beehiiv.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thepostgame_podcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Post Game Podcast (@JoePod24) / X⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-post-game-podcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email me: [email protected]

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• #87 - Jack Adler: The Future of NIL and Out2Win’s AI Data-Driven Approach

  Jack Adler is the founder and CEO of Out2Win, a marketing platform that uses AI to match brands with athletes. He shares how he turned a passion for helping athletes into one of the most innovative companies in the NIL and creator economy space. From raising money to partnering with top college teams and brands, Jack discusses what it takes to build something meaningful in the constantly evolving NIL landscape as a first-time founder.He also dives into how Out2Win uses AI and data to rank athlete marketability, why posting consistency matters more than follower count, and the mindset that kept him from quitting along the way.What You’ll Hear About:How Jack built Out2Win from the ground upWhy Out2Win partners directly with brands Almost quitting and what kept him goingRaising money as a 23-year-old with zero revenueWhy one true supporter can change everythingHow athletes are becoming creators How Out2Win integrates AI and analytics into athlete rankingsWhy posting frequency matters more than follower countThe most marketable teams in college sportsHow to navigate the unknown as a first-time entrepreneurTimestamps:(0:00) – Intro to Jack Adler(3:00) – Jack’s upbringing and early drive(4:20) – Launching his first fundraiser with his sister(5:40) – Using social media for positive change(8:45) – The real story behind Out2Win(9:40) – What NIL really means today(12:00) – Partnering directly with brands(15:10) – Is social media essential for athletes?(17:10) – The hidden struggles of entrepreneurship(20:10) – Why the name “Out2Win”(23:40) – Raising capital at 23 with no track record(26:55) – Landing the first investors(28:25) – How he was intentional with his fundraising(30:40) – The tailwinds pushing college sports forward(32:50) – How Out2Win uses AI and data(34:30) – What goes into the Out2Win score(37:40) – NFL QBs and athlete content creation(40:20) – Deloitte’s role in NIL(43:40) – Making sure brands are educated(45:40) – Balancing athlete and brand interests(47:40) – The most marketable team in college sport(49:25) – Finding hidden gems in recruiting(50:10) – Why Instagram and TikTok matter most(52:10) – The $20.5M cap and its recruiting impact(54:55) – Expanding into pro and high school sports(57:10) – Competitors (and what sets them apart)(58:30) – What excites him most about the future(1:00:00) – Building Out2Win’s culture his way(1:02:40) – Favorite Philly athleteLinks:Out2WinJack Adler LinkedInJack Adler InstagramOut2Win InstagramThe Post Game Podcast:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://postgamepodcast.beehiiv.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thepostgame_podcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/JoePod24⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-post-game-podcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Email me: [email protected]

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• #86: Joe Poduslenko - Life After Sports: Confidence, Mindset, and Building The Post Game Podcast

  Brandon Zachary and I talk on his Podcast, Athlete Resilience Center, which he co-hosts with his former teammate Matt Owens.We talked about the mental game of baseball, figuring out what was next after sports, building the Post Game Podcast, lessons learned from cold outreach, and more.We discussed:Lessons learned from college baseballSeparation through the mental game Confidence vs. doubting your abilitiesFiguring out what was after baseballStarting the podcast Using the athlete platform to your advantage Podcasting for networking & building relationshipsThe fear of rejection Lessons learned from the podcast Setting goals and having expectations Timestamps:(0:00) - Intro & Brandon's Intro(7:30) - Background & early baseball journey(9:30) - From Malvern Prep to Seton Hall(13:15) - Dreaming of pro ball(15:00) - Obstacles faced playing the game(16:30) - Lessons from failure(18:30) - Bryce Harper and confidence(20:45) - Gratitude and perspective(22:00) - Mindset lessons from Jalen Hurts(24:00) - Transitioning out of sports(26:15) - Building The Post Game Podcast(29:00) - Life after baseball: finding purpose(32:30) - Discovering interests beyond the field(35:30) - Putting yourself out there(38:00) - Starting the podcast journey(40:50) - Creativity in outreach and growth(43:45) - Overcoming the fear of rejection(46:00) - Just getting started(49:00) - Digging meaningful stories out of guests(51:30) - Biggest lessons learned from podcasting(54:30) - How to stay consistent with episodes(59:00) - Setting goals and expectations(1:05:10) - 10 Questions in 10 SecondsLinks:Athlete's Resilience Center | Find Your Performance ArcAthlete Resilience Center SpotifyAthlete’s Resilience Center (ARC) (@athletesresiliencecenter) • Instagram photos and videosBrandon Zachary InstagramThe Post Game Podcast:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://postgamepodcast.beehiiv.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thepostgame_podcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/JoePod24⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-post-game-podcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠Email me: [email protected]

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• #85: Aidan Melograna - D3 Basketball to Building a 6-Figure Marketing Business

  Aidan Melograna is a college basketball player and founder of Melo Media, a fast-growing marketing agency helping local service businesses scale through Instagram and social media. He founded a second business recently, Ace1 Consulting, helping online creators scale through Instagram and YouTube. He shares how he went from cold-calling 100+ businesses with zero experience to generating thousands in revenue through Instagram marketing. What You’ll Hear:How Aidan came up with Melo Media after a summer internshipThe mindset shift from student-athlete to business ownerCold calling 100+ prospects and turning rejection into resultsBuilding Instagram pages optimized for sales, not vanity metricsWhy storytelling and founder-led brands dominate social mediaHow resumes are dying and portfolios are replacing themWhat it’s really like to start a business while still in collegeTimestamps:(0:00) - Intro to Aidan(2:30) - Basketball journey and path to Arcadia University(3:50) - Choosing a major in Global Media & Marketing(5:45) - Realistic outlook on D3 basketball(7:30) - From internship to entrepreneurship(10:00) - How cold calling landed his first $1,000 client(12:15) - The “value first” approach that worked(13:30) - Melo Media’s pivot to full-service Instagram marketing(15:30) - Why Instagram is the new website(16:30) - Speaking directly to your dream client(18:40) - The “best known > best” mindset shift(19:50) - Crafting the perfect Instagram bio(20:40) - The 4 essentials of a winning profile(22:30) - Why 22–40-year-olds are the ideal target audience(24:30) - TikTok vs Instagram for local service businesses(25:45) - How to win attention in a short-attention world(27:50) - Expanding into info products: Golf recruiting platform(29:30) - Why resumes are becoming obsolete(30:30) - Building digital real estate instead of interning(33:30) - Making real money and finding consistency(35:45) - The late-night grind and inconsistent income(37:30) - Handling doubt and criticism(40:30) - Power of connections and introductions(40:50) - Where to find Aidan Links:https://www.instagram.com/aidan.melograna/How I Used Storytelling to Generate 10K/mo. (USE THIS FRAMEWORK)Aidan Melograna | LinkedInThe Post Game Podcast:⁠⁠⁠⁠https://postgamepodcast.beehiiv.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thepostgame_podcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/JoePod24⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-post-game-podcast/⁠⁠⁠Email me: [email protected]

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• #84: Stephen Bienko - Athlete Branding, NIL & Life After Sports

  Stephen Bienko is a former decathlete, former college football player at The Air Force Academy and Villanova, began his career as a state trooper, franchise owner, entrepreneur, and founder of 42U, helping athletes build their brands.We discuss life after sports, athlete branding, NIL collectives, and the evolving landscape of college athletics.Stephen shares how athletes can effectively transition beyond sports, build their personal brand while they're still playing, and navigate the opportunities that NIL has created in college sports.What You'll Hear About:How Stephen approaches major life transitionsWhy building your brand online matters more than everLessons from being a decathlete and state trooperThe story behind 42U’s branding kitsHis take on NIL collectives and athlete opportunityWhy confusion in college sports creates room for growthTimestamps:0:00 – Intro to Stephen2:40 – Competing as a decathlete6:10 – Life as a state trooper8:40 – Navigating transitions13:10 – What does branding really mean?15:25 – From 42G to 42U18:00 – The meaning behind 42U20:25 – Helping student-athletes discover identity25:25 – Working with individual teams27:40 – Athletes building their brand31:40 – How coaches embrace branding33:30 – Team branding strategies36:10 – NIL collectives & upholding standards39:00 – Business-minded collectives40:20 – Where money flows in college sports42:10 – Lessons from building 42U44:40 – How kids consume sports today47:00 – Where to find StephenLinks:Stephen Bienko | LinkedInStephen Bienko (@bienkostephen) • Instagram photos and videosthe42u.comThe Post Game Podcast:⁠⁠⁠https://postgamepodcast.beehiiv.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thepostgame_podcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/JoePod24⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-post-game-podcast/⁠⁠Email me: [email protected]

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