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AI in Education Podcast

Dan Bowen and Ray Fleming
AI in Education Podcast
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    Jocelyn Brewer - How schools and parents rethink student wellbeing in the age of AI

    09/04/2026 | 35 mins.
    In this episode, Dan and Ray are joined by psychologist and cyber psychology expert Jocelyn Brewer, founder of Digital Nutrition, to unpack one of the biggest challenges facing education today: how schools and parents can support student wellbeing in an AI-driven world.
    Jocelyn introduces the concept of "digital nutrition" - a more balanced, intentional approach to technology use that moves beyond simplistic ideas like screen time limits. Together, they explore how young people are already using AI for everything from homework to navigating friendships, often in ways adults don't fully understand.
    The conversation dives into the risks and opportunities of AI as a companion, why banning technology rarely works, and how schools can shift from restriction to risk minimisation. Jocelyn also challenges educators and parents to engage more openly with young people, positioning them as experts in their own digital lives.
    This episode is a powerful reminder that there are no simple answers - but doing nothing isn't an option.
    We recommend you follow or connect with Jocelyn on LinkedIn to keep topping up with her fantastic advice!
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    UnBlooms: Tina Austin on thinking well with AI and rethinking Bloom's

    26/03/2026 | 38 mins.
    Tina Austin joins Ray and Dan for a wide-ranging conversation about what AI adoption really looks like in US education beyond the hype, the headlines and the endless frameworks.
    Tina is an educator, consultant, policy adviser and the founder of GAInable. She works with schools, colleges and faculty teams on responsible AI adoption. In this episode, she shares how her work evolved from teaching bioethics and AI ethics into supporting educators across the US as they grapple with policy, privacy, assessment, tools, and changing classroom practice.
    The conversation explores the fragmented reality of AI in education, why many teachers are feeling "frameworked out", and why Tina believes the best place to start is not with the tool, but with the problem you are trying to solve.
    We also dig into Tina's "UnBlooms" framework - a challenge to linear interpretations of Bloom's Taxonomy in the age of generative AI - and discuss critical thinking, student reflection, equity, privacy, and why educators should stay sceptical of easy answers.
    A thoughtful episode on using AI well, asking better questions, and meeting learners where they are.
    Here's all the links you need:
    Tina's new venture, Gainable AI Gainable.ai 
    The UnBlooms™ model: A Problem-Centered Framework for Learning Design in the AI Era
    https://zenodo.org/records/17298679 
    The UnBlooms™ Workbook: How to Design, Teach, and Assess Human Reasoning in the AI Era

    Tina's Custom GPT for UnBloom: Unbloom-it


    You can contact Tina on email at [email protected]
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    AI News: the future of work we're not ready for

    19/03/2026 | 38 mins.
    In this AI News episode, Dan and Ray explore the fast-moving reality of AI in the workplace - and why many of us might not be as prepared as we think.
    They unpack a striking story of a KPMG partner fined for using AI to cheat on an AI ethics course, raising questions about assessment, responsibility, and what "cheating" even means in an AI-enabled world.
    The conversation then shifts to a growing trend: organisations and universities rolling out AI tools like Copilot at scale, and what this means for equity, productivity, and expectations in the workplace.
    Dan and Ray also dive into new research from Anthropic on the future of work, highlighting which roles are most exposed to AI disruption - and why knowledge work may change more than hands-on professions. They explore the idea that the real shift isn't job loss, but job transformation.
    Finally, they tackle bold claims from industry leaders that office roles could be automated within 12–18 months, debating what's hype versus reality.
    This episode challenges a simple narrative: AI isn't just replacing work - it's redefining what valuable work looks like.
    Links to discussions in the podcast:
    KPMG partner fined for using artificial intelligence to cheat in AI training test
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/feb/16/kpmg-partner-fined-artificial-intelligence-ai-training-test
    Aston University is first Midlands University to provide all staff with Microsoft 365 Copilot and Copilot Chat for Students
    https://www.aston.ac.uk/latest-news/aston-university-first-midlands-university-provide-all-staff-microsoft-365-copilot-and
    NY Times: Who's a Better Writer: A.I. or Humans? Take Our Quiz.
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/03/09/business/ai-writing-quiz.html 
    Anthropic and US Government
    https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-department-of-war
    Anthropic future of labour report
    https://www.anthropic.com/research/labor-market-impacts
    AI Exposure of the Australian & US Job Market
    AUS: https://0xtreme.github.io/aus-jobs/ 
    US: https://joshkale.github.io/jobs/  
    Anthropic Education Report - AI Fluency index
    https://www.anthropic.com/research/AI-fluency-index
    The end of office workers as we know it?
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/microsoft-ai-ceo-mustafa-suleyman-issues-18-month-warning-for-office-workers/ar-AA1WvXMi?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=69957afbd4c747f08d77afaead77499c&ei=56
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    Stephen Heppell on Building Smarter Schools in the Age of AI

    12/03/2026 | 55 mins.
    Professor Stephen Heppell joins Dan and Ray for a wide-ranging conversation about the future of schools, assessment, and learning in the age of AI.
    Stephen reflects on more than four decades of innovation in education technology — from early experiments with AI and HyperCard through to today's generative AI systems. Drawing on work around the world, he shares stories from radical learning environments including beach schools, post-hurricane classrooms in the Cayman Islands, and experimental learning spaces designed with students themselves.
    A central theme of the episode is the growing gap between how schools currently operate and the skills the modern world demands. Stephen argues that as AI makes knowledge abundant, the most valuable human capabilities will be creativity, ingenuity, collaboration, and ethical judgement - qualities that traditional assessment systems rarely measure well.
    The discussion also explores how AI can support teachers rather than replace them, helping with differentiated learning activities, analysis of student understanding, and freeing teachers to focus on the human side of education.
    Finally, Stephen challenges educators and policymakers to rethink learning spaces, assessment, and student agency - and to build education systems that prepare learners for a rapidly changing world.
    If you want to read about more of Stephen's work, there's plenty more detail on Lindfield Learning Village and lots more on https://www.heppell.net/
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    From Classrooms to Careers: The New AI Skills Race

    05/03/2026 | 35 mins.
    In this news-packed episode, hosts Ray and Dan explore Purdue University's bold new requirement for all graduates to demonstrate AI competency; and the strategic partnerships between Harvey.ai (the specialised system for the legal profession) and universities in Sydney, Oxford and Chicago.
    The conversation turns to the "first in the world" move by the University of Manchester to provide Microsoft 365 Copilot to 65,000 students and staff - paying homage to the legacy of Alan Turing.
    A highlight of the episode is the deep dive into "vibe coding"— the phenomenon of non-programmers using AI to build applications through iterative prompting rather than manual syntax. They also tackle the "AI bubble," the rise of "work slop," and the surprising research showing that Boomers often have a more accurate understanding of how AI works than Millennials.
    Links & Resources:
    Purdue University adds 'AI working competency' graduation requirement
    https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/2025/Q4/purdue-unveils-comprehensive-ai-strategy-trustees-approve-ai-working-competency-graduation-requirement/ 
    University Law Schools introduce AI partnerships
    https://www.afr.com/companies/professional-services/sydney-and-uts-law-schools-bow-to-ai-wave-partner-with-harvey-20260119-p5nv49 
    University of Manchester announces 'world first' AI rollout with Microsoft
    https://www.manchester.ac.uk/about/news/world-first-ai-partnership-between-the-university-of-manchester-and-microsoft-announced/ 
    "What we are doing about AI at UWA"
    https://www.uwa.edu.au/news/article/2026/february/what-we-are-doing-about-ai-at-uwa 
    High school students forced to fight false allegations of AI cheating
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-22/ai-detectors-incorrectly-brand-high-school-students-ai-cheats/106138394 
    New Future of Work Report from Microsoft
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/New-Future-Of-Work-Report-2025.pdf 
    The Impact of AI on Work in Higher Education
    https://www.educause.edu/research/2026/the-impact-of-ai-on-work-in-higher-education 
    Americans Have Mixed Views of AI – and an Appetite for Regulation
    https://www.searchlightinstitute.org/research/americans-have-mixed-views-of-ai-and-an-appetite-for-regulation/ 
    And finally....
    From the "Do you ever read T&C's" dept
    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/matthewwemyss_i-logged-into-ai-studio-yesterday-and-i-ran-activity-7411400400177729536-hgPL

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About AI in Education Podcast

Dan Bowen and Ray Fleming are experienced education renegades who have worked in many various educational institutions and educational companies across the world. They talk about Artificial Intelligence in Education - what it is, how it works, and the different ways it is being used. It's not too serious, or too technical, and is intended to be a good conversation. Please note the views on the podcast are our own or those of our guests, and not of our respective employers (unless we say otherwise at the time!)
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