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Dan Bowen and Ray Fleming
AI in Education Podcast
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    Higher Marks, Lower Learning? AI's Favourite Magic Trick

    18/07/2026 | 52 mins.
    Higher Marks, Lower Learning? AI's Favourite Magic Trick
    This week, Ray and Dan unpack a bumper collection of AI in education news and research, all pointing to one critical question: Is AI helping students learn…or just helping them score higher?
    The episode begins with a striking case from Brown University, where a take-home exam averaged 96%, only for the same cohort to average 48% in a supervised final. From there, Ray and Dan explore what the latest research says about AI-assisted assessment, automated marking, AI tutors, critical thinking, and the growing importance of student agency.
    They also discuss:
    New evidence on AI marking compared with human examiners
    Research showing how guided AI tutoring can improve maths learning
    Why critical thinking is the biggest predictor of successful AI use
    The risks of "never-skilling" when students rely too heavily on AI
    AI detectors: what they can (and can't) reliably tell us
    New Australian data on AI's impact on employment
    The latest Digital Education Council survey of university students
    Online safety and the growing challenge of AI-assisted image abuse
    As always, the episode is packed with practical insights, research summaries, and plenty of discussion about what all this means for educators, schools and universities.
    Links - News
    Voice got an upgrade
    https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-live/
    Inside Higher Ed article: Brown Professor Suspects Majority of His Class Used AI to Cheat
    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/faculty/learning-assessment/2026/07/08/brown-professor-suspects-most-his-class-used-ai-cheat
    Digital Education Council AI in Higher Education Global Survey
    https://www.digitaleducationcouncil.com/resource-library-items/ai-in-higher-education-global-survey-2026
    One in 25 teens affected by AI-assisted online abuse, study finds. Read Lee Barrett's opinion: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/lee-barrett-a7624923b_boys-major-victims-of-ai-assisted-online-share-7480417534723244033-OjWU/
    AI and employment in Australia - report from Department of Education and Workplace Relations
    https://www.dewr.gov.au/download/17666/ai-and-employment-australia/43205/ai-and-employment-australia/pdf
     
    Links - Research
    AI in University Assessment: Evaluating the Opportunities and Risks of Automated Marking
    https://www.emotional-cognition.psychol.cam.ac.uk/sites/default/files/OpRaise%20Report_DIGITAL.pdf
    LLM Performance on a Real, Double-Marked GCSE Benchmark
    https://arxiv.org/abs/2606.24973
    Teaching with Gemini: Measuring the impact of Guided Learning on student mathematics progress in Sierra Leone
    https://deepmind.google/blog/measuring-the-impact-of-learning-with-ai-in-sierra-leone-and-beyond/
    https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/LearnLM/learnLM_sierraleone_may26.pdf
    Access is Not Enough: Human Support Improves Engagement with AI Tutoring
    https://nssa.stanford.edu/studies/access-not-enough-human-support-improves-engagement-ai-tutoring
    The Generative AI Learning Penalty: Evidence from Chinese Secondary Education
    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6868618
    The agency gap: perceived human AI agency, reflection and generative AI learning across UK and China based higher education contexts
    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/03075079.2026.2686986
    How Do Autonomy, Critical Thinking, and Artificial Intelligence Value Perception Affect University Student Self-regulated Learning?
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11528-026-01203-3
    The cognitive impact of ChatGPT in higher education: A systematic review of critical and creative thinking outcomes
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666920X26000330
    AI-induced never-skilling in medical education
    https://doi.org/10.1038/s41591-026-04438-y (Paywalled)
    Who wrote this? Evaluating the reliability of AI detection tools in higher education
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40979-026-00226-w 
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    What schools and small business can teach each other about AI

    09/07/2026 | 31 mins.
    Most Australian students won't graduate into global tech companies. They'll build careers in small and medium businesses. So are schools and universities preparing them for that reality?
    In this episode, Dan and Ray are joined by Amanda Rose - Co-founder and Director of Women in AI Australia and Founder & CEO of Entrepreneurial & Small Business Women Australia (ESBWA) -to explore what education can learn from the businesses driving Australia's economy.
    Amanda shares practical advice on introducing AI without losing critical thinking, why educators should partner with local businesses to bring authentic problem-solving into the classroom, and how simple AI policies can help schools and organisations move from uncertainty to action. The conversation also tackles AI equity, bias in AI systems, and why students need to develop their own voice and judgement before relying on AI tools.
    If you're a teacher, school leader, university educator or anyone interested in preparing learners for an AI-enabled workforce, this episode offers practical strategies you can put into practice straight away.
    Find out more about:
    Women in AI Australia

    Entrepreneurial & Small Business Women Australia (ESBWA)
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    We've Read the AI Reports So You Don't Have To - Series 17, Episode 9

    02/07/2026 | 44 mins.
    This week, Ray and Dan dive into a mountain of new AI in education research, so you don't have to.
    They unpack major reports from around the world covering how students are really using AI, why schools are still struggling to provide clear guidance, and what the latest AI literacy and education readiness frameworks mean for teachers and leaders.
    Along the way they discuss Norway's AI restrictions in primary schools, student concerns about AI data centres, new guidance on AI in assessment, and the growing importance of the human skills that AI can't replace.
    If you're trying to make sense of where AI in education is heading, this episode brings together the latest evidence, trends and practical insights in one conversation. And hopefully you won't have to read all the reports below, but our conversation has given you a head start to find the right one(s) for you!
    Power Toys (to turn your Copilot button into a shortcut for any AI)
    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/keyboard-manager 
    EU: Norway imposes near ban on AI in elementary schools
    https://www.reuters.com/technology/norway-imposes-near-ban-ai-elementary-school-2026-06-19/ 
    Australia: Sunshine Coast students push back as Australia positions itself as a global AI leader
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-23/students-protest-ai-amid-growing-national-concerns/106808776 
    UK: Navigating AI in Education - Pupils' perspectives on the role of AI in the classroom
    https://fdslive.oup.com/www.oup.com/oxed/research-reports/Navigating_AI_in_Education_Research_Report_June2026_v05.pdf 
    US: Common Sense Media Census: AI use by Teens and Tweens
    https://www.commonsensemedia.org/research/a-comprehensive-report-on-teens-tweens-and-ai 
    Australia: Learning First School Research
    https://learningfirst.com/s/Learning-First_AI-use-in-schools-Taking-action-now_FINAL.pdf 
    Global: AI Literacy Framework from OECD & EC
    https://ailiteracyframework.org/ 
    Global: New WEF report: Shaping the Future of Learning: Education Readiness for the Age of AI
    https://www.weforum.org/publications/shaping-the-future-of-learning-education-readiness-for-the-age-of-ai/ 
    Australia: AI in Higher Education Research in Australia
    https://aiinhe.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/2026-hedx-conference-260617_0114.pdf 
    US: Lumina Foundation/Gallup - "AI in Higher Education: Widespread Use, Unclear Rules"
    https://www.luminafoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Lumina-Foundation-Gallup-SOHE_AI_Report.pdf 
    Australia: TEQSA's new guidance on detecting AI use in student assessments
    https://www.teqsa.gov.au/guides-resources/protecting-academic-integrity/academic-integrity-toolkit/risks-academic-integrity-ai/detecting-plagiarism-ai-generated-text-student-assessments-and-securing-take-home-written-assessments 
    Global: Preparing students for the future of work from Microsoft 
    https://info.microsoft.com/ww-landing-preparing-students-for-the-future-of-work.html
    Global: QS World Future Skills Index
    https://www.qs.com/world-future-skills-index/2027
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    Victoria Hedlund on AI bias: What every teacher needs to know

    25/06/2026 | 45 mins.
    AI systems are increasingly being used in education, but what happens when those systems introduce hidden bias into learning, feedback, assessment and career advice?
    In this episode, we're joined by Victoria Hedlund (AKA The AI Bias Girl), founder of GenEd Labs, former physics teacher, consultant and researcher specialising in AI bias in education.
    Victoria shares practical examples of how AI tools can produce different outputs based on gender, names, backgrounds and other personal characteristics. From explanations of how a light bulb works to career guidance and assessment, we explore how seemingly small biases can compound over time and influence attainment, wellbeing and opportunity.
    The conversation covers AI tutors, safeguarding concerns, assessment risks, the importance of keeping humans in the loop, and why educators need to adopt a more experimental mindset when working with generative AI.
    This is a thought-provoking discussion about fairness, agency and what every teacher needs to know as AI becomes increasingly embedded in education.
    For more background, here's two bits of Victoria's writing:
    Deep dive on using AI for marking
    https://victoriahedlund.substack.com/p/bias-bytes-special-edition-evidence 
    Deep dive on Squishmallow Top Trumps
    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/victoriamhedlund_biasgirl-biasaware-chatgpt-ugcPost-7452959849623220225-bIWG 
    And finally, free downloads from Victoria, including 8 bias-mitigating prompts for teachers, and a growing set of other resources on AI bias in education.
    https://genedlabs.ai/downloads
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    More A's, More Fails: What AI Is Really Doing to Student Performance

    18/06/2026 | 37 mins.
    What happens when AI helps students earn more A grades, and also contributes to more failures when it's taken away?
    In this episode, Ray and Dan explore new research on AI's impact on student performance, assessment integrity, and learning. They discuss studies linking AI to rising grades, the risks of over-reliance on AI, and growing evidence that AI tutors may support learning better than general-purpose chatbots.
    The conversation also covers AI detectors, AI humanisers, teacher workload, Microsoft's latest Copilot updates, and a new tool for measuring the environmental footprint of AI use.
    AI in Education Research Papers
    Artificial Intelligence and Grade Inflation
    https://escholarship.org/uc/item/80x8d3qd 
    ps WSJ wrote an article on this https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/a-grades-are-suddenly-everywhere-since-the-arrival-of-chatgpt-845baae7 
    Failing grades soar as professors see greater AI usage, dwindling math skills in UC Berkeley computer science classes
    https://www.dailycal.org/news/campus/academics/failing-grades-soar-as-professors-see-greater-ai-usage-dwindling-math-skills-in-uc-berkeley/article_16fad0bf-02cb-4b8c-8d88-888ffd9f8608.html


    Building AI Companions that Prioritise Learning over Performance
    https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.04816


    Effective Personalized AI Tutors via LLM-Guided Reinforcement Learning
    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=6423358


    Law Professors prefer AI over peer answers
    https://law.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/salinas_et_al.pdf


    Fixing teachers' problems? exploring teachers' repair and maintenance work around generative AI technologies
    https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01596306.2026.2657793\


    Dramaturgies of Deception: AI Humanizers and the Performance of Legitimacy in Higher Education Assessment
    https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.02649


    Homogenizing effect of large language models (LLMs) on creative diversity: An empirical comparison of human and ChatGPT writing
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S294988212500091X 
    AI Detectors Fail Diverse Student Populations: A Mathematical Framing of Structural Detection Limits
    https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.20254
     
    AI News 
    Copilot Cowork released
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2026/06/16/copilot-cowork-is-now-generally-available/ 


    Copilot notebooks released for all free copilot chat basic accounts
    https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/educationblog/copilot-notebooks-and-study-guide-now-available-to-copilot-chat-users/4527320


    Andy Masley's Carbon footprint calculator|
    https://www.andymasley.com/visuals/ai-prompt-footprint/ 

    Mazenod College: Year 12 students caught using AI to cheat
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-06-09/year-12-students-in-melbourne-caught-cheating-using-ai/106777700
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About AI in Education Podcast
Dan Bowen and Ray Fleming are experienced education renegades who have worked in many various educational institutions and educational companies across the world. They talk about Artificial Intelligence in Education - what it is, how it works, and the different ways it is being used. It's not too serious, or too technical, and is intended to be a good conversation. Please note the views on the podcast are our own or those of our guests, and not of our respective employers (unless we say otherwise at the time!)
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