Jung On Purpose Podcast by CreativeMind
Debra Maldonado and Robert Maldonado PhD Life Coach Training and Personal Transformation Experts

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Seeking Love & Belonging without the Ego: A Jungian Approach to Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
28/09/2026 | 59 mins.Seeking love and approval externally? Here's how to turn this around.
We all have the same needs for love, belonging, and esteem, but the ego and the higher self go after them in very different ways. In this episode of Jung on Purpose, Love & Belonging without the Ego, we continue our Maslow's hierarchy series and look at how these needs change when we move from the conditioned self, shaped by the world and driven by insecurity, to the individuated self Carl Jung described. The ego looks outside itself for love, approval, and status to feel secure, whether through relationships, labels, achievements, or even AI companions. The higher self builds security from within and gives love and belonging instead of chasing them.
What you'll learn
Ego needs vs. higher self: How the ego seeks love, belonging, and esteem to feel safe, and what changes when you meet those needs from a more evolved place.
Getting unstuck from labels: Why attachment styles can change, and how personality tests, diagnoses, and labels can trap you in a fixed identity.
Real connection vs. substitutes: Why social media, dating apps, and AI offer faux belonging, and how Jung understood loneliness and healthy community.
Esteem and confidence: Why self-esteem doesn't come first, and how small wins, resilience, and even failure build real confidence.
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Instagram | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | creativemindlife.com | connect@creativemindmethod.com- There's a reason you feel like playing it safe, especially now as the world is going through a huge upheaval.
In this episode, we explore Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, specifically the safety level, because I think so many of us get stuck there long after our basic needs are actually met. Debra opens up about a personal story from when she was ten that shaped her own relationship with safety in ways she didn't fully understand until much later.
Learn how fear and instability get passed down through generations and how today's chaos (AI, the economy, the political climate) keeps our nervous systems in survival mode, and why coaching, not therapy, is often exactly the right tool for working through this kind of everyday fear.
The difference between a "safety response" and real trauma, and why most people need coaching, not a diagnosis
The core fear behind almost every emotional trigger, once you dig past the surface (hint: it's not what you think)
How to feel safe in a world of chaos and uncertainty
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Instagram | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | creativemindlife.com | connect@creativemindmethod.com - Sixty-four percent of workers are disengaged and 16% are actively checked out, so if you're dreading Mondays but can't figure out why you won't just leave, you're far from alone. In this episode of Jung on Purpose, we look at the "midlife pause," the threshold moment before real change, and why the ego will do almost anything to keep you from crossing it, even dressing itself up in spiritual language to talk you out of your own life.
Learn the difference between ego-driven motivation and soul-driven motivation, why therapy's "something's broken" model can actually keep people stuck longer, and why the answer isn't a better vision board but a different way of listening to your own mind. At the end, we ask four questions designed to pull you out of the story that's been running your life.
Why the ego can only reference the past, and what that means for how it handles the fear of change
The simple test for telling ego fear from soul guidance: does the "safe" answer feel comforting, or does the "scary" one feel alive?
Why obstacles after a career change aren't a sign something's wrong, they're a sign you're finally "up to something"
The four questions to ask yourself in the pause: what do you want, what's stopping you, who do you need to become, and what will your life look like when you get there
Get on our waiting list for the new Second Horizon Coaching Community here: https://creativemindlife.com/second-horizon-coaching/
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Instagram | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | creativemindlife.com | connect@creativemindmethod.com - Are you really enlightened or just spiritual bypassing?
In this episode, we continue our conversation on enlightenment and moksha and what it actually means to wake up from the illusion of the ego.
We explore why the ego's sense of "not enoughness" is a built-in feature of the human mind, not proof of a childhood wound, and why so many people chase spiritual "quick fixes" instead of doing the deeper work.
We talk through the real difference between the awakened mind and pure consciousness, why techniques alone can't get you to enlightenment, and why a real path requires a guide and a community to get you there.
We explain why feeling "not enough" predates childhood and is part of the human condition, not a pathology to fix
We break down the difference between the awakened, cognitive mind and pure consciousness itself
We share why spiritual bypassing and quick-fix techniques keep people "digging shallow holes" instead of finding real depth
We describe why growth means facing discomfort directly, not clearing it away or spiritually bypassing it
We explain why every path to enlightenment needs three things: a path, a guide, and a community (a sangha)
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Instagram | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | creativemindlife.com | connect@creativemindmethod.com - On our new episode of Jung on Purpose called, What if Your Mid-life Crisis is a Wake-up Call?, we get personal about our own dark nights of the soul, hers arriving as a total life collapse, his arriving at the peak of "having it all." Together we explain why chasing pleasure and success (Kama and Artha in Eastern philosophy) eventually stops working, and why that collapse isn't punishment, it's an invitation.
Drawing on Jung, the Bhagavad Gita, Eckhart Tolle, and even Freud, they map out the four aims of life, Dharma and Moksha included, and explain why your midlife crisis might actually be the beginning of a rebirth into a more soul-directed life.
In this episode we share:
There are two very different roads into a midlife crisis. Debra's came through loss (broken engagement, lost job, lost home), Rob's came through achievement that left him empty. Both point to the same underlying lesson: pleasure and success alone can't sustain you.
Eastern philosophy offers four aims of life, not two. Kama (pleasure) and Artha (success) are real and worth having, but without Dharma (purpose/sacred duty) and Moksha (transcendence), they collapse into meaninglessness, addiction, or the endless "just a little more" trap.
What looks like darkness is often a doorway. When old ego-driven pursuits stop delivering, it's not a sign something's wrong with you, it's a sign you're being called toward acting from soul rather than ego, which they connect to their upcoming Second Horizon program.
Get on the notification list for our launch of Second Horizon this fall: https://creativemindlife.com/Second-Horizon-Coaching/
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Want to be a Certified Jungian Life Coach? Download our course brochure: https://creativemindlife.com/jungian-life-coach-training-brochure-download/
Stay Connected with Debra and Dr. Rob:
Instagram | LinkedIn | YouTube | Facebook | creativemindlife.com | connect@creativemindmethod.com
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Explore Jungian Depth Coaching with JUNG ON PURPOSE by CreativeMind (formerly Soul Sessions). This is your guide to uncover your authentic self and live in true purpose, success and fulfillment. Join life coaching experts and Founders of CreativeMind, Debra Berndt Maldonado and Robert Maldonado, PhD, as they explore personal growth through Jungian Theory, Eastern Spirituality and Social Neuroscience in a deep, but practical way.
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