Notice That

EMDR for Couples: Healing Together Through Simultaneous Processing
A Conversation with Arilda Surridge, LMFT
What happens when EMDR moves beyond the individual—and into the relationship itself?
In this episode of Notice That, Bridger and Jen sit down with Arilda Surridge, LMFT, author and EMDR clinician, to explore how EMDR can be ethically, safely, and powerfully integrated into couples therapy. Arilda shares a clear, grounded framework for working with two nervous systems in the room—without deviating from EMDR fidelity—and offers concrete clinical examples that bring this work to life.
This conversation goes far beyond theory. Together, we walk through:
When couples EMDR is and is not appropriate
How to assess whether a trauma is individual, shared, or relational
What simultaneous EMDR reprocessing actually looks like in practice
How compassion, accountability, and repair emerge through bilateral stimulation
Why tools alone often aren’t enough for deeply dysregulated couples
Arilda also shares clinical wisdom from her work with couples navigating car accidents, attachment injuries, guilt and shame, trust ruptures, and relational enactments—highlighting how EMDR can help partners move from reactivity to empathy.
This episode is especially valuable for:
EMDR therapists working with couples
Clinicians navigating attachment trauma and relational enactments
Therapists curious about maintaining EMDR fidelity in non-traditional applications
Anyone interested in how trauma lives between people—not just within them
About the Guest
Arilda Surridge, LMFT is a licensed marriage and family therapist, EMDR clinician, and the owner of Wellness Counseling Inc. She specializes in integrating EMDR into couples therapy while maintaining fidelity to the eight-phase protocol. Arilda is the author of a practical, clinician-focused book on EMDR for couples and offers professional trainings on this emerging area of practice.
Find out more about her practice here: https://wellnesscounselinginc.com/about/
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In this special “take your learner hat off” episode of Notice That, Bridger and Jen sit down with Jennifer Ann Counseling—EMDR therapist and comedy content creator—for a playful, honest conversation about being a therapist and a human.
This episode isn’t about teaching a specific technique. It’s about humor, authenticity, and why laughter belongs alongside depth in trauma work. We talk about how Jennifer’s platform grew, what it’s like navigating social media as a therapist, handling negative comments, and why being real often connects more than being polished.
We also explore EMDR in everyday practice—ritual, intention, parts work, and the familiar client experience of “I don’t know why this works… but it does.”
Connect with Jennifer Ann Counseling
Instagram / TikTok: @JenniferAnnCounseling
Free resources available via her bio
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In this episode of Notice That: An EMDR Podcast, Jen and Bridger sit down with Dr. Arielle Schwartz—somatic psychologist, EMDR therapist, and author of EMDR Therapy and Somatic Psychology—to explore what really happens when EMDR and body-based work are woven together in the therapy room.
Together, they dive into:
How Arielle’s early training in somatic psychology shaped the way she learned and practices EMDR
Why the body scan and somatic check-ins are not just “boxes to tick,” but core guides for pacing, target selection, and resolution
Polyvagal theory’s view of how trauma gets “tagged” in the nervous system—both in external cues and internal sensations
What to do when clients say, “I don’t feel anything in my body” and how even that response is meaningful data
The myth that SUDs “should always go down,” especially with dissociative and complex trauma presentations
Arielle and Barb Maiberger’s “golden nugget practice” and why we shouldn’t wait for a SUD = 0 to install and future-template meaningful shifts
Therapist embodiment: using our own nervous system as an instrument for attunement, pacing, and repair

Arielle also shares about her Somatic EMDR trainings through BodyLab, her therapist retreats in Sedona and Costa Rica, and her Beyond Trauma nervous system care retreats, including an immersive experience in South Africa that combines yoga, nervous system education, and observing animals in the wild.
You’ll hear practical language, case examples, and flexible ways to honor EMDR’s structure while staying deeply relational, embodied, and responsive to the nervous system in front of you.
Learn more about Dr. Arielle Schwartz:
Website (events, retreats, trainings): resilienceinformedtherapy.com
Website (blog, yoga, additional resources): drarielleschwartz.com

Check out her card deck that integrates nature photography with quotes from The Post-Traumatic Growth Guidebook—a powerful tool for helping clients locate themselves in their healing process and set intentions for EMDR and somatic work.
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In this episode of Notice That, Bridger and Jen sit down with neurofeedback expert Leigh Povia, LCSW, RPT, BCN, founder of Center for Dynamic Growth, to explore how neurofeedback can strengthen, support, and accelerate trauma therapy.
Together, they discuss:
What neurofeedback actually is—beyond the buzzwords
How brainwave training mirrors internal states and supports regulation
Why neurofeedback can open doors when EMDR alone feels “stuck”
How clinicians can partner with neurofeedback providers
The developmental trauma connection: attachment, arousal, and brain-based interventions
A powerful case example of a child whose system finally found calm
Practical uses for neurofeedback in resourcing, closure, and state stabilization
Leigh shares candidly about her own learning curve, what it’s like to bring neurofeedback into an EMDR practice, and how both modalities can work in harmony rather than competition.
If you’ve ever wondered whether neurofeedback could strengthen your EMDR work, this episode is a rich and relatable introduction.
Resources Mentioned:
Leigh’s course: Demystifying Neurofeedback
Center for Dynamic Growth: CenterForDynamicGrowth.com
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In this episode, we wrap up our series on working memory theory in EMDR by sitting down with Sander, co-founder of WeMind—a digital platform designed to optimize bilateral stimulation, track real-time client engagement, and bring advanced working memory taxation into both virtual and in-person EMDR sessions.
We explore:
How WeMind adapts working memory load dynamically during sets
Why random-interval taxation may enhance reprocessing
The shift from hardware (light bars, tappers) to integrated platforms
Cultural differences in EMDR practice across countries
How tech can support relational, attuned therapy rather than replace it
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