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Startups For the Rest of Us

Rob Walling
Startups For the Rest of Us
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  • Startups For the Rest of Us

    Episode 854 | How to Find Startup Ideas (Sneak Peek Chapter from My New Book)

    13/10/2026 | 23 mins.
    Where do the best SaaS ideas actually come from?

    In this episode, Rob reads a chapter from his new book, Idea to Traction: Stop Building SaaS Nobody Wants in the Age of AI. He walks through the five places problems tend to show up, eight strategic approaches for finding and shaping a product idea (with real examples), and when it makes sense to replicate an existing idea.

    Pre-order the hardback before November 10th to get bonus PDFs, a seat in a live Q&A to ask your early stage questions, and a free copy of the ebook or audiobook ideatotractionbook.com.

    Topics we cover:

    (1:41) – Why Rob wrote Idea to Traction

    (3:29) – What the new book covers

    (6:03) – Pre-order bonuses and live Q&A

    (7:32) – Chapter three: how to find startup ideas

    (9:09) – Solve a problem, not a moonshot

    (10:34) – Five places problems come from

    (12:52) – Approach 1: Translate an idea to a new niche

    (13:50) – Approach 2: Find a hated competitor

    (14:57) – Approach 3: Build on your audience

    (16:04) – Approach 4: Build on your network

    (16:50) – Approach 5: Undercut a clunky enterprise competitor

    (17:49) – Approach 6: Enter a fast-growing ecosystem

    (19:15) – Approach 7: Build on an existing product

    (20:13) – Approach 8: Audit your day job spending

    (21:20) – Can you replicate an existing idea?

    Links from the show:

    Idea to Traction: Stop Building SaaS Nobody Wants in the Age of AI

    Start Small, Stay Small 

    The SaaS Playbook

    MicroConf

    State of Independent SaaS Report 

    TinySeed

    The Stair Step Method of Bootstrapping

    Derek Sivers

    Jason Cohen

    Basecamp

    WP Engine

    Builder Prime

    Bidsketch 

    SignWell

    SparkToro

    ScrapingBee 

    ScatterSpoke 

    Clarity.fm 

    DealForma 

    ScoutDNS

    Baremetrics

    StaticKit

    SavvyCal

    Seriously Simple Podcasting / Castos 

    CartHook 

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you'd like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We'd love to hear from you!

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    Episode 853 | How to Become the SaaS That AI Recommends

    06/10/2026 | 31 mins.
    How do you get LLMs to actually recommend your SaaS? 

    In this episode, Rob Walling talks with Ross Hudgens, founder of Siege Media and author of the new book Generative Engine Optimization, about how SaaS companies get recommended by ChatGPT, Gemini, and the AI tools customers now use to shop. They cover why "best X" roundups and versus articles outperform, how much Reddit actually matters, and what a bootstrapped founder should do first to start showing up in AI search. 

    Topics we cover:

    (1:28) – SEO's evolution into GEO

    (3:01) – Why Ross wrote his new AI SEO book

    (3:58) – An S&P 100 client's SEO team gets laid off

    (5:29) – Is GEO separate from traditional SEO?

    (6:33) – Why publish "best category" roundup articles

    (11:06) – Versus articles: an underrated GEO tactic

    (14:14) – Handling competitor pushback on comparison pages

    (16:57) – Recruiting YouTubers and using affiliate listings

    (21:47) – Reddit's real influence on AI search

    (25:38) – First GEO steps and how to measure visibility

    Links from the show:

    MicroConf US | April 18–20, 2027 · Austin, TX | Promocode: ROB50

    TinySeed

    Siege Media

    Generative Engine Optimization: The Definitive Guide to AI SEO

    Peec AI

    G2

    Capterra

    PartnerStack

    SelectSoftwareReviews

    Technology Advice

    SelectSoftware Reviews

    Limelight 

    Passionfroot

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you'd like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We'd love to hear from you!

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    Episode 852 | Getting Big Name Customer Case Studies and More Listener Questions (with Ruben Gamez)

    29/09/2026 | 32 mins.
    Should you be worried that another founder will steal your idea if you ask them for advice?

    In this episode, Rob is joined by Ruben Gamez to answer four listener questions: whether reaching out to more advanced founders puts your idea at risk, how to convince big name customers to agree to a case study, what to do when a platform ecosystem (like Shopify's app store) turns hostile, and how to sell a B2G SaaS product when your sales cycle only runs during the hours you're already at a day job.

    Want to get your question answered? Submit your question for an upcoming episode.

    Topics we cover:

    (1:59) – Fear that outreach could get an idea stolen

    (3:50) – Why no one actually steals ideas

    (9:12) – Getting copied is inevitable once you're public

    (13:45) – How to land big brand case studies

    (15:39) – Using discounts to secure case studies

    (18:11) – Shopify's fake review extortion

    (20:21) – Should you move to a standalone SaaS

    (25:06) – B2G SaaS around a day job

    (28:29) – Why GovTech rarely attracts angel investment

    Links from the show:

    Tiny Summit | December 5–7, 2026 · Cancun, Mexico

    TinySeed SaaS Institute

    MicroConf

    SignWell

    Ruben Gamez (@earthlingworks) | X

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you'd like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We'd love to hear from you!

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    Episode 851 | The Messy Middle of a SaaS Pivot

    22/09/2026 | 43 mins.
    How do you pivot your SaaS when things aren’t working?

    This week Rob talks with Nathan Tyler, founder of BlinkMetrics, about the messy, uncertain process of finding product market fit in real time. Nathan walks through why his original EOS scorecard idea didn't work, how hundreds of coffee chats led to a done for you reporting business, and why he just launched a second product, BlinkPages, right in the middle of it all.

    Topics we cover:

    (2:43) – The Staging Pilot exit to Pantheon

    (4:44) – BlinkMetrics origin story

    (5:59) – 104 coffee chats, real revenue

    (8:09) – Why not launch 12 products in 12 weeks

    (9:39) – Launching a second product: BlinkPages

    (13:09) – Squarespace to BlinkPages migration

    (17:03) – Why static sites beat WordPress now

    (21:02) – Knowing when to pivot

    (25:26) – Market pull vs. shiny object

    (32:10) – Pricing migrations, hosting, and AI costs

    Links from the show:

    Get your Ticket for MicroConf US - Austin, Texas on April 18 - 20, 2027 | Use promo code ROB50 

    BlinkMetrics

    BlinkPages

    The SaaS Playbook

    Exit Strategy Book

    Nathan Tyler | LinkedIn 

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you'd like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We'd love to hear from you!

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    Episode 850 | How Not to Screw Up When Hiring Your first Developer and More Listener Questions (with Derrick Reimer)

    15/09/2026 | 51 mins.
    How do you onboard a hire onto a codebase you built alone?

    In this episode, Derrick Reimer joins Rob to tackle four listener questions. They cover hiring and onboarding your first developer as a bootstrapped founder, then move into the temptation to build features just because AI makes them cheap to ship, getting past social anxiety as a founder, and whether it's worth trademarking your product name.

    Topics we cover:

    (3:59) – How do you hire your first developer?  

    (5:14) – Qualities to look for in a first developer hire

    (13:37) – Onboarding a new hire into your codebase with AI

    (16:49) – Reducing hiring risk: pairing, reliability, recruiters

    (22:50) – The temptation to build features just because AI makes it cheap

    (30:43) – Getting over social anxiety as a founder

    (35:25) – Is trademarking your product name worth it?

    Links from the show:

    TinySummit | December 5–7, 2026 · JW Marriott, Cancun

    MicroConf US | April 18–20, 2027 · Austin, TX

    Partnerships: sponsors@microconf.com

    Idea to Traction: Stop Building SaaS Nobody Wants (book wait list)

    Rob Walling Newsletter

    Remote First Recruiting 

    SavvyCal

    Derrick Reimer | LinkedIn

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you'd like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We'd love to hear from you!

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About Startups For the Rest of Us
The original podcast for bootstrapped and mostly bootstrapped startups, this show follow the stories of founders as they start, acquire, and grow SaaS companies. Hear when they fail, struggle, succeed, and take you with them through the tumultuous life of a SaaS founder. If you like Mixergy, This Week in Startups, or SaaStr, you’ll enjoy Startup for the Rest of Us.
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