In this show, Tom Rogers speaks to Welsh headteacher Alun Ebenezer about discipline, behaviour, boundaries and the growing debate over whether schools have become too soft. From closing wellbeing rooms and bringing parents into lessons, to challenging what he sees as a culture of over-labelling and lowered expectations, Ebenezer has become one of the most controversial voices in British education. But are stricter schools exactly what many teachers and parents now want? The conversation explores resilience, SEND and mental health debates, attendance, behaviour culture, parenting, Wales vs England, inclusion, competitive sport, and why some school leaders believe schools have become overly therapeutic. Are firm boundaries the key to restoring standards or is there a danger schools lose compassion in the process?