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Teaching Literacy Podcast
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  • Teaching Literacy Podcast

    Complex Text & Fluency with Dr. Jake Downs and Dr. Chase Young

    04/03/2026 | 50 mins.
    This is a rebroadcast of Episode 245 from the Melissa and Lori Love Literacy Podcast – you can check out that episode here: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/read-like-us-building-fluency-through-repeated-reading/id1463219123?i=1000748503901

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    Show Notes
    2:30 – What is Read Like Us?

    Overview of the five-step repeated reading protocol

    How it supports accuracy, automaticity, and prosody

    4:10 – The Five Reads Explained

    Listening passage preview

    Echo reading

    Choral reading

    Partner reading

    Performance/independent reading

    6:00 – Implementation in Classrooms

    Can it work in whole group settings?

    Small group intervention applications

    Working with paraprofessionals and volunteers

    10:00 – Maximizing Reading Time

    Why 90% of intervention time should be actual reading

    The workout approach to building fluency

    Ensuring students are actually reading (not just holding books)

    12:53 – How Read Like Us Differs from Traditional Approaches

    More than just “read three times and check for speed”

    Building all three components of fluency simultaneously

    The role of modeling and scaffolding

    15:00 – Gradual Release of Responsibility

    Transferring task responsibility to students

    Why rate/speed wasn’t emphasized in coaching

    Automaticity as the outcome, not the input

    18:00 – Prosody and Comprehension

    Expression as an indicator of understanding

    Using the Rasinski multidimensional fluency rubric

    Rotating focus areas: expression, phrasing, smoothness, pace

    20:00 – Study Results

    Fourth grade students: 16.5 WPM growth in 50 days

    Effect size of 0.9

    Improvements in accuracy, vocabulary, and comprehension measures

    22:30 – Potential Comprehension Enhancement

    Adding a 10-word takeaway or gist statement

    Keeping it “fluency heavy, comprehension light”

    Future iterations of the protocol

    25:30 – The Stacking Protocol Approach

    Learning from dissertation chair Dr. Kit Moore

    Combining multiple evidence-based practices

    Weaving the reading rope together

    27:30 – Cost and Accessibility

    Read Like Us is free to implement

    Comparison with commercial tier-two interventions

    Open access article available

    28:48 – Text Selection Philosophy

    The month-long process of curating 50 texts

    Using challenging and engaging content (100-200 words)

    Types included: giggle poetry, science facts, short stories with twists, weird state laws

    30:30 – The “Challenging Text” Debate

    Using texts above grade level with proper scaffolding

    Addressing the 1960s neurological impress research

    Why modern research supports stretching students

    33:17 – Texts Students Actually Want to Read

    Students asking to take intervention texts home

    Incorporating core reading program texts for continuity

    Balance between practical and engaging content

    36:00 – Lexile Levels and Text Complexity

    Many texts in 6th-8th grade Lexile range for 3rd-4th graders

    Testing the hypothesis: Can struggling readers succeed in harder texts?

    Being “level agnostic” in text selection

    39:00 – Rethinking Leveled Texts

    Limitations of the Lexile formula

    Starting with engaging content, not filter levels

    The scaffolding makes the difference, not the exact level

    42:00 – Student Motivation and Text Choice

    Chase’s son reading adult-level joke books in first grade

    The power of “want to” over prescribed levels

    Teacher control vs. student self-selection

    43:00 – Repeated Reading vs. Wide Reading

    Defining both approaches

    Why they shouldn’t be pitted against each other

    Read Like Us = repeated reading across wide array of texts

    46:30 – Wide Reading and Teacher Control

    Students won’t achieve wide reading through self-selection alone

    The teacher’s role in exposing students to diverse genres

    Balancing instruction with student choice

    48:00 – Benefits of Wide Reading

    Exposure to different language patterns across genres

    Informational vs. narrative text structures

    Building terrain navigation skills with various text types

    49:00 – Getting Started with Read Like Us

    Start with tomorrow’s text

    Find the 200-300 word section with the most “oomph”

    Use what you already have in your classroom

    50:21 – Closing

    Where to find the protocol and resources

    Final thoughts and wrap-up
  • Teaching Literacy Podcast

    E72|Pragmatic Differentiation for Reading Acceleration with Dr. Sharon Walpole

    07/01/2026 | 1h 8 mins.
    In this episode we welcome Dr. Sharon Walpole, a professor at the University of Delaware. We explore the challenges teachers face in addressing varying student needs, Dr. Walpole’s pragmatic approach to differentiation, and the developmental roadmap for reading proficiency. Dr. Walpole shares insights on the importance of grade-level instruction, the flaws of certain assessment systems, and practical classroom applications.

    Make sure to check out Dr. Walpole’s books with Guilford Press! https://www.guilford.com/author/Sharon-Walpole

    00:00 Introduction to Differentiation
    01:03 Meet Dr. Sharon Walpole
    02:15 Defining Differentiation
    03:23 Acceleration vs. Remediation
    04:45 Pragmatic Approaches to Differentiation
    08:03 Challenges with Guided Reading
    16:46 The Science of Reading and Differentiation
    23:51 The Stairway to Proficiency Model
    35:47 Maximizing Instructional Impact
    36:03 The Importance of Dosage in Education
    36:38 Resources for Differentiated Reading Instruction
    37:35 Grouping Students for Effective Learning
    40:20 Aligning Small Group and Whole Group Instruction
    48:57 Tiered Instruction: Strategies and Misconceptions
    56:40 Effective Use of Paraprofessionals
    01:01:32 Curriculum and Instructional Materials
    01:03:51 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
  • Teaching Literacy Podcast

    E72|Pragmatic Differentiation for Reading Acceleration with Dr. Sharon Walpole

    05/01/2026
    In this episode we welcome Dr. Sharon Walpole, a professor at the University of Delaware. We explore the challenges teachers face in addressing varying student needs, Dr. Walpole’s pragmatic approach to differentiation, and the developmental roadmap for reading proficiency. Dr. Walpole shares insights on the importance of grade-level instruction, the flaws of certain assessment systems, and practical classroom applications.

    Make sure to check out Dr. Walpole’s books with Guilford Press! https://www.guilford.com/author/Sharon-Walpole

    00:00 Introduction to Differentiation
    01:03 Meet Dr. Sharon Walpole
    02:15 Defining Differentiation
    03:23 Acceleration vs. Remediation
    04:45 Pragmatic Approaches to Differentiation
    08:03 Challenges with Guided Reading
    16:46 The Science of Reading and Differentiation
    23:51 The Stairway to Proficiency Model
    35:47 Maximizing Instructional Impact
    36:03 The Importance of Dosage in Education
    36:38 Resources for Differentiated Reading Instruction
    37:35 Grouping Students for Effective Learning
    40:20 Aligning Small Group and Whole Group Instruction
    48:57 Tiered Instruction: Strategies and Misconceptions
    56:40 Effective Use of Paraprofessionals
    01:01:32 Curriculum and Instructional Materials
    01:03:51 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
  • Teaching Literacy Podcast

    E71|Evaluating Advanced Phonemic Awareness with Dr. Michael Coyne

    04/12/2025 | 59 mins.
    In this episode of the Teaching Literacy Podcast, host Jake Downs discusses with Dr. Michael Coyne from the University of Connecticut the concept of advanced phonemic awareness and its implications for early reading proficiency. Dr. Coyne shares findings from his recent study that examines the impact of using oral-only advanced phonemic awareness instruction on first graders. They explore the theoretical underpinnings, practical recommendations for teachers, and the overall relevance of these findings to classroom practice. Tune in to understand the nuanced debate around advanced phonemic awareness and its role in effective literacy instruction.

    00:00 Introduction to Advanced Phonemic Awareness
    01:33 Guest Introduction: Dr. Michael Coyne
    02:25 Defining Phonological and Phonemic Awareness
    06:29 Research on Phonemic Awareness
    10:04 Advanced Phonemic Awareness: Concepts and Tasks
    12:17 Theoretical Underpinnings and Critiques
    20:21 Study Overview: Curriculum and Implementation
    26:55 Study Design and Measures
    29:44 Evaluating Phonemic Awareness Instruction
    30:46 Study Results: Phonemic Awareness Outcomes
    32:54 Near Transfer Outcomes: Word Reading and Fluency
    34:53 Exploring Differential Benefits
    37:39 Recommendations for Phonemic Awareness Instruction
    42:17 Balancing Oral and Integrated Phonemic Awareness Activities
    50:15 Optimism in Literacy Research and Instruction
    52:29 Jake’s Take on Teaching Phonemic Awareness

    Reference:
    Coyne, M. D., McCoach, D. B., Santoro, L. E., Gentile, M., Rodrigues, C., & Kastner, P. (2025). The Effects of Advanced Phonemic Awareness Instruction in First Grade. The Elementary School Journal, 000–000. https://doi.org/10.1086/737952
  • Teaching Literacy Podcast

    E70|Science of Reading for Multilingual Learners with Dr. Steve Amdendum

    11/11/2025 | 55 mins.
    How can we best apply the Science of Reading to support multilingual learners? This episode tackles that critical question with Dr. Steven Amendum from the University of Delaware.

    We explore how evidence-based literacy instruction must leverage a student’s first language as a key asset, not a barrier. Dr. Amendum breaks down practical teaching strategies to boost decoding and reading comprehension for bilingual and multilingual students in diverse classrooms.

    You’ll also learn how to build effective collaboration between classroom teachers and language specialists and hear about the research-demonstrated impact of the Bella professional learning program. If you’re looking for actionable, research-driven approaches to support your English learners, this episode is a must-listen.

    00:00 – Introduction and overview of the episode
    02:07 – Current support and challenges for multilingual learners in schools
    04:29 – State vs. federal roles and legislation for multilingual learners
    06:49 – Key research: Importance of first language (L1) in English reading development
    09:21 – Cross-linguistic transfer and leveraging home language as an asset
    11:09 – Oral language, vocabulary, and comprehension strategies in L1 and L2
    13:44 – Practical strategies for teachers: supporting students without knowing their L1
    17:30 – Previewing text language and other evidence-based practices
    21:28 – Benefits of these strategies for all students
    23:00 – Decoding, fluency, and phonological awareness across languages
    25:54 – Instructional strategies: Blend as you go & Say it, move it
    34:29 – Peer support and collaborative learning
    36:10 – Effective teacher collaboration and professional learning
    41:00 – Evidence of impact: Bella program and student outcomes
    44:35 – Final thoughts and optimism for literacy research
    46:18 – Jake’s Take

    Reference:
    Kittle, J. M., Amendum, S. J., & Budde, C. M. (2024). What Does Research Say About the Science of Reading for K-5 Multilingual Learners? A Systematic Review of Systematic Reviews. Educational Psychology Review, 36(4), 108. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10648-024-09942-6

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