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- Live from a Portuguese bar annex, Chad and Joel crack open a cold cider and fire up "HR's Most Dangerous Podcast" to roast the absolute state of modern recruiting. Before tackling the tech industry's worst ideas, the boys review hostage-style movie clips, swap obscure band recommendations, and pitch a Spaceballs 2 sponsorship.
The SaaS-pocalypse Comes for Workday: Private equity behemoth Silver Lake is eyeing a $51B buyout of Workday.
Google's Resume Garbage Can: Leaked documents show Google DeepMind's AI screening tool is rejecting qualified applicants at random, forcing frustrated hiring managers to set up illegal human-only shortcuts around their own TA department.
Gen Z's AI Penalty: Stanford research shows a 19% drop in entry-level hiring for AI-exposed roles.
Babysitting the Machine at Walmart: Store associates are now tasked with cleaning up after Walmart's AI.
Indeed's Desperate Marketing Pivot: Indeed's CMO claims targeting passive job seekers at soccer matches is a "revolutionary" new strategy. Really?
Chapters
00:00 - Intro and Episode Overview
03:45 - Review of the Odyssey and movie expectations
07:43 - Changes in media consumption and radio
09:54 - New music discoveries and bands
11:21 - Music show segment and shout outs
12:26 - TA20 awards and AI professionals recognition
13:25 - Upcoming events and travel plans
20:32 - Private equity buyout talks with Workday
21:50 - Implications of PE acquisition on Workday's culture and support
23:13 - The SAS apocalypse and AI's impact on SaaS companies
24:37 - Market valuation and PE acquisitions of software companies
28:38 - Google resume dumping and AI in HR
29:06 - Challenges of AI in recruitment and hiring processes
31:15 - The puppy analogy and AI's limitations
32:13 - The importance of human skills and adaptability
37:24 - AI's impact on youth employment and highly exposed occupations
40:00 - The need for experienced workers to train AI
41:32 - Future workforce and the importance of human skills
44:34 - Adapting to AI and the importance of continuous learning
46:35 - Walmart's AI implementation and employee trust issues
49:45 - The role of human nuance in AI and workplace tasks
52:57 - The importance of understanding complex tasks in AI deployment
54:29 - Indeed's new marketing strategy and market position
55:33 - Critique of Indeed's marketing and tech evolution
57:29 - Spaceballs 2 and industry humor
58:07 - Google and Indeed traffic decline signals
59:22 - The shift to old school marketing and candidate engagement
01:00:21 - The future of job search and AI-driven applications
01:01:18 - Humor and lighthearted closing remarks - In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman sit down with Sonja Breuer, Senior Vice President of HR at Hamra Enterprises a powerhouse franchise group operating over 200 locations across Wendy’s, Panera Bread, and Noodles & Company.💡 What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
The “Easy Button” for Hiring: How custom AI bots (including a talking Frosty named Sam) drastically reduced candidate ghosting and eliminated scheduling headaches for restaurant managers.
Slashing the Ad Budget: The secret behind leveraging evergreen ads and conversational tech to keep job board spending at a fraction of the budget.
Daily Pay as a Game Changer: Why instant access to wages has become Hamra’s secret weapon for recruitment (and how it saved one employee's prom night!).
Tech Meets Culture: Why Sonja—a self-proclaimed Gen X “human connection” person—believes automation doesn't replace empathy, but actually gives leaders the time to be more human.
What’s Next for AI in HR: A sneak peek at how Hamra is using AI for company-wide internal communication and video-driven recruitment. - Get ready for a jam-packed episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast as hosts Joel Cheesman, Chad Sowash, and Emi B serve up their trademark mix of industry news, corporate earnings, and unfiltered banter.
The episode kicks off with personal updates and shout-outs, covering everything from Chad’s slippery "Charlie Brown" beach wipeout in Portugal to a Harvard report on workplace outcomes, the rise of late-night interviews for night owls.
As the episode shifts into corporate strategy, the hosts put the latest financial filings and major market moves under the microscope. You will hear them break down the Q2 earnings, cost-cutting strategies, and future outlooks for ZipRecruiter, Recruit Holdings, and Indeed.
The team then brings back their signature "Buy or Sell" segment to grade recent consolidation in the space, evaluating MetaView’s acquisition of Reval (and its autonomous coworker "fillmore"), CareerMinds picking up Jobrapido, and the big transition of a long-time leader at LinkUp.
Finally, the episode tackles the serious side of hiring tech with a look at global regulatory compliance and vendor transparency involving Maki People, Mochi AI Assessments and Recruitics, before winding down with a nostalgic debate over the unexpected relaunch of MySpace.
To find out who gets a "Buy," who gets a "Sell," and exactly why the hosts are skeptical of the latest AI trends, you will have to tune in to the full episode.
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About The Chad & Cheese Podcast
Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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