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    Will ICIMS AI Coalesce?

    06/03/2026 | 1h 1 mins.
    This week on The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the gang proves once again that you can’t separate HR from the real world—especially when the real world feels like it’s on fire. What starts as travel talk quickly spirals into global tension, disrupted plans, and a larger conversation about leadership in moments of chaos. Let’s just say when flights get rerouted and headlines get louder, it’s hard not to wonder how instability at the top trickles down to the rest of us. The trio doesn’t pretend to have foreign policy solutions—but they do have opinions. Lots of them.

    Of course, it wouldn’t be Chad & Cheese without a few sharp left turns. A certain fast-food giant’s awkward attempt at relatability gets the roast treatment, sparking a conversation about authenticity in the age of executive social media. That dovetails nicely into a broader debate about AI-generated marketing campaigns—especially when “people companies” experiment with removing actual people from the picture. Bold move? Lazy shortcut? Marketing genius? The gang weighs in.

    On the industry side, several heavy hitters are making moves. One longtime ATS player is rolling out a fresh brand and a shiny AI layer meant to unify its platform—raising questions about whether this is a true product evolution or a well-timed narrative shift. Another HR tech roll-up with a portfolio of recognizable recruiting brands has a new CEO at the helm, bringing big AI and SaaS credentials to what some see as a complex integration puzzle. Meanwhile, a job board giant finally makes a major technical leadership hire after years of operating without one—prompting debate about product vision, innovation debt, and what it really takes to modernize at scale.

    Add in contrasting approaches to AI-driven workforce strategy from major financial and retail employers, a glimmer of revenue optimism from a familiar job platform, a dad joke that absolutely no one asked for, and the usual sponsor shoutouts—and you’ve got classic Chad & Cheese: equal parts insight, irreverence, and “did they really just say that?”

    Chapters

    00:00 - Introduction and Current Events

    02:57 - Impact of War on Travel and Daily Life

    05:59 - Fast Food and Cultural Reflections

    08:48 - Advertising Trends and AI in Marketing

    11:59 - Privacy Concerns and Societal Reflections

    14:57 - Shoutouts and Personal Reflections

    16:28 - Introduction to Traders and Travel Plans

    18:32 - Industry Changes and iSIMS' New Brand Identity

    28:41 - The Importance of Execution in Branding

    32:05 - Leadership Changes at Employee and Future Prospects

    36:58 - The Future of ATS and Customer Retention

    39:41 - Challenges Facing Legacy ATS Providers

    44:52 - Leadership Changes at Indeed

    47:18 - AI's Impact on Employment

    55:43 - ZipRecruiter's Recent Growth and Strategy
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    Shredded: Elly, DHI Group, Block, iCIMS, Consello, The Mentor Hub, HireBound, & More

    05/03/2026 | 6 mins.
    The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
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    Swiftynomics w/ Misty Heggeness

    03/03/2026 | 35 mins.
    Get ready to punch the clock because the boys are back, and this time they’re bringing the data to the drama. In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, HR’s most dangerous duo sits down with Misty Heggeness, the powerhouse economist and author of Swiftynomics: How Women Mastermind and Redefine Our Economy.

    They’re diving deep into the messy reality of gender dynamics, from the "recognition gap" that leaves women’s best ideas stranded in the boardroom to the strategic masterminding required to navigate a lopsided workforce.

    Misty breaks down how women are effectively refining the economy—even when they’re working twice as hard for half the credit—and offers a no-BS roadmap for self-advocacy, networking, and why your personal story is the most lethal tool in your professional arsenal.

    Chapters

    00:00 - Introduction and Misty Heggeness's Background

    02:02 - Family Lore and Early Life in Fargo

    04:07 - Career at the US Census Bureau and Academic Role

    05:35 - Inspiration Behind 'Swift Dynamics' and Taylor Swift

    08:02 - Taylor Swift’s Impact on Women and Business Strategies

    10:59 - Economic Impact of Taylor Swift’s Tours and Business Tactics

    13:08 - Early Career and Nashville Country Music Scene

    15:01 - Women’s Progress in the Workforce and Cultural Shifts

    18:05 - Gender Dynamics in Economics and Leadership Styles

    21:07 - Women Making Their Own Pyramids and Future Outlook

    24:02 - Women’s Earnings, Education, and Top Leadership Barriers

    28:04 - Taylor Swift’s Employee Bonuses and Local Economic Impact

    31:59 - Pay Equity, Economic Growth, and Corporate Responsibility

    36:03 - Where to Find the Book and Connect with Misty

    Link to book: https://www.amazon.com/Swiftynomics-Women-Mastermind-Redefine-Economy/dp/0520403118
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    Stepstone Spins & Kombo Wins

    27/02/2026 | 54 mins.
    Cheese is MIA, so Chad bring the ladies in to take over, and chaos follows:

    StepStone celebrates record applications… during record job desperation. Spin level: Olympic gold.

    AI agent harassment enters the chat.

    IBM’s COBOL cash cow meets AI with a chainsaw.

    Google’s “CareerDreamer” Copy prompt → paste → profit?

    Kombo vs. Humand at 2 am

    Tech layoffs are giving Hunger Games energy.

    CEOs call unemployment “momentum.” Workers call it “rent’s due.”

    AI in hiring: helpful assistant or reputation wrecking hallucination machine?

    Stay tuned.
  • The Chad & Cheese Podcast

    Shredded: Kombo, Humand, Stepstone Group, Giggle, Oyster, Workday, Employ, & More

    26/02/2026 | 7 mins.
    The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

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About The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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