In this episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash rope in Alex Fourlis, the big cheese (sorry, Joel) at Veritone Hire, for a wild ride through the job market’s circus. Fourlis, with 25+ years of recruitment street cred, brags about Veritone slinging over a million jobs a month worldwide—like a digital paperboy on steroids.
The trio dives into the chaos: hiring’s been dropping faster than a bad Tinder date for two years, automation and programmatic advertising are the cool kids Enterprises can’t stop swiping right on, and AI in recruitment is basically the robot overlord we all saw coming. LinkedIn’s flexing as the job board prom king, while Google for Jobs lurks like that quiet kid who might just steal the crown.
Smaller job boards? They’re scrambling to jazz up their tech, services, and content—or risk fading into obscurity like a MySpace page. Fourlis spills the tea on how these sites have been their own worst enemies (think clunky UX and “please wait” vibes), and why smart employers need to mix up their ad game like a DJ at a wedding.
Veritone’s here to play hiring fairy godmother with analytics fairy dust, and the chat—covering job ad maturity models to AI’s job-search takeover—serves up laughs and wisdom. It ends with Fourlis tossing out his LinkedIn like a mic drop, daring listeners to slide into his DMs.
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31:45
Indeed’s Midlife Crisis
On this episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast, our hosts sling wit and wisdom faster than paintballs at a corporate team-building fiasco, dreaming up a tournament that’d make HR - and Cheesman - cry.
Topics are spicy with the soap opera at Deel, where legal drama’s juicier than a reality TV reunion. Plus, they geek out over Indeed’s search boxes making a comeback and some fancy new premium service—because job hunting needed more flair.
Switching gears, they clown on Indeed’s latest job-seeker gadgets, throw shade at LinkedIn’s “innovations,” and size up Adzuna’s AI job search bot like it’s a contender in a tech cage match.
They also muse about the future of U.S. manufacturing jobs and raise eyebrows at the cash flow in the adult entertainment biz, courtesy of OnlyFans’ economic glow-up. It’s a wild ride of laughs, hot takes, and enough wit to make your commute feel like a comedy special.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction and Paintball Tournament Idea
05:58 - Education System Discussion
12:16 - LGBTQ+ Education and Political Challenges
18:00 - Unleash Event and Networking Opportunities
20:00 - Deel CEO Drama and Corporate Governance
22:53 - Indeed's Search Box Return and Premium Service
27:23 - Job Seekers and Employer Signals
30:03 - Indeed's New Features and Their Implications
34:58 - LinkedIn's Recent Developments
41:36 - Adzuna's AI Job Search Agent
45:42 - The Future of Manufacturing Jobs
53:00 - Economic Indicators from OnlyFans
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57:12
Shredded: Jobandtalent, Rippling, Deel, Linkedin, HireRight, ClearChecks, OnlyFans & More
The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
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6:56
Back To the Future with Monster.com Founder Jeff Taylor
In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Jeff Taylor, the nutty professor behind Monster.com, crashes the mic to dish on job boards, entrepreneurial chaos, and why the hiring game’s more bonkers than a squirrel on espresso.
He takes us on a nostalgia trip through Monster’s heyday, chuckling at how Indeed swooped in like a job-posting ninja and the LinkedIn deal hit like a plot twist in a bad rom-com—spoiler: LinkedIn won. Taylor’s saga is a hoot: from birthing Monster, to getting a decade-long MBA beatdown from Ray Dalio at Bridgewater (think Wall Street with extra yelling), to now pimping his new gig, BoomBand, which promises to rescue resumes and job postings from the stone age—because who needs parchment scrolls in 2025?
He cracks up over flops like Eons—“Facebook handed me my lunch”—and slings zingers like “Jeff Taylor is back, bitches,” while preaching that job seekers are the real MVPs, job boards are deader than disco, and keeping market share is like wrestling a greased pig. With a gleam in his eye, he’s hell-bent on jazzing up resumes to strut past, present, and future vibes, proving that thriving in this HR tech madhouse means diving headfirst into the crazy—and maybe dodging a few industry punches along the way.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction to Jeff Taylor
02:02 - Jeff's Entrepreneurial Journey
03:34 - The Evolution of Job Boards
06:37 - The Challenges of Job Market Dynamics
08:29 - The Impact of Aggregators on Job Boards
10:54 - The LinkedIn Deal and Its Consequences
12:36 - Reflections on Monster's Legacy
19:37 - Lessons from Eons and Future Aspirations
29:05 - The Evolution of Monster and Ad Agencies
34:00 - Transitioning to Bridgewater and Learning from Ray Dalio
39:30 - The Journey to BoomBand: Challenges and Insights
46:46 - Reinventing Recruitment: The Future of Resumes and Job Postings
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Rippling Raises while Deel Staff Exits
This week on HR’s most dangerous podcast, things get wild with updates from the espionage-soaked saga between Rippling and Deel — Rippling needs more cash and Deel loses top talent.
But wait, there's more:
China and Dave Chappelle’s next-level tariff trolling
North Korean IT infiltrations at Fortune 500 companies? That’s right — the hackers are already inside the house.
💥 And in the middle of it all? A 23 years-old CEO named Jasper Carmichael Jack, an AI startup called Artisan, and a Shopify world where your job has to beat the bots to survive.
If you're in HR, tech, or just love a good spy thriller with a side of corporate chaos — this one’s for you. Get ready to rethink remote hiring, laugh nervously, and maybe double-check your VPN.
🔊 Listen now. Before your office gets Pyong-yanged.
Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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