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  • AI Won’t Save Recruiting with Matt Charney
    AI isn’t fairy dust you sprinkle on your ATS latte—it’s duct tape on 20-year-old tech, sold to you with a shiny new buzzword. Enter Matt Charney, the HR-tech cynic who’s seen it all: Monster, SmartRecruiters, Employer.com, and enough bad vendor decks to wallpaper Vegas. In this episode, Charney calls BS on: Vendors selling “AI” that’s really just 2003 automation in a new hoodie HR’s obsession with “a seat at the table” (spoiler: the table’s cold, and nobody saved you a chair) Why being “first to market” with AI is usually just a great way to bleed out on the cutting edge And the hilarious reality of candidates getting rejection emails before they’ve even finished hitting submit 👉 Grab your bourbon, hold on to your recs, and hit play.
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  • OpenAI Takes Aim at Jobs : Indeed, LinkedIn Bring the Bots : BLS Chaos
    In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, with Chad Sowash sipping ouzo on a Greek beach, Joel Cheesman and guest J.T. O’Donnell dish out spicy takes on the workforce with their trademark snark. They kick off with a riff on empathy—or lack thereof—in today’s rage-fueled world, joking that community resilience is basically folks bonding over Wi-Fi outages. Corporate layoffs get a roasting, with job security shakier than a Jenga tower at a frat party, and fractional employment pitched as the future for those who love working three jobs to afford one coffee. OpenAI’s shiny new job platform sparks eye-rolls, as they dunk on job boards so outdated they might as well be faxing resumes. AI’s role in job matching gets a nod, though they quip it’s less “perfect match” and more “swipe left on bad fits.” Labor market woes are dissected, with job seekers facing hurdles higher than a toddler’s tantrum, and generational gripes about work sound like Boomers and Zoomers arguing over who gets the last slice of avocado toast. Economic data? They trust it about as much as a used car salesman’s handshake. Indeed and LinkedIn’s AI tools get a playful cage match comparison, while Shaker and Radancy’s acquisition drama is served with a side of corporate soap opera. They wrap up cackling about autonomous vehicles, wondering if truck drivers will soon be replaced by robots who honk worse than your uncle at a tailgate.  Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Current Events 02:25 The State of Empathy and Rage 05:19 Shout Outs and Community Resilience 08:33 Corporate Layoffs and Job Security 11:22 The Future of Work and Fractional Employment 14:22 OpenAI's New Job Platform 17:06 Cynicism Towards Job Boards 20:11 OpenAI's Impact on Job Searching 27:16 AI in Job Matching and Job Seeker Education 29:06 Labor Market Insights and Economic Realities 30:50 Demographics of Job Seekers and Their Challenges 33:04 Generational Perspectives on Employment 35:19 Trust in Economic Data and Its Implications 36:29 AI Tools in Recruitment: Indeed vs. LinkedIn 46:52 Acquisitions in Recruitment Tech: Shaker vs. Radancy 53:57 The Future of Autonomous Vehicles and Job Displacement
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  • Shredded: OpenAI, Throxy, Velocity Global, Shaker Recruitment Marketing, exaqueo, Remuner, & More
    The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
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  • Scale Your Suck: Sackett on AI and Talent
    Tim Sackett is back, and he’s not here to sugarcoat your broken recruiting process. From running a family staffing biz (yes, his mom started it—nepotism FTW) to launching the HR Tech 100 Fund, Sackett’s got opinions, and Chad & Cheese are here to poke the bear. Inside this episode: Why most HR tech still runs on vaporware and broken promises The Sackett philosophy: If you suck at recruiting, AI just helps you suck faster “Scale Your Suck” – his accidental book title that SHRM will never publish Why recruiters might have 18 months before AI eats their lunch (and their jobs) How execs keep saying “do more strategic work” when nobody knows WTF that actually means The coming extinction-level event for recruiters who think “tallest dwarf” = top talent This isn’t a kumbaya “AI will save us all” chat. It’s Sackett unplugged—equal parts brutal honesty, dad jokes, and career counseling for recruiters about to be replaced by bots that actually give candidates feedback. Grab a stiff drink. Season 3 is here, and it’s coming for your job description.
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  • Google Wins, Meta Spins, and a Recruitics Fail?
    From Google’s “flock of dead canaries” warning shot to Meta’s latest identity crisis, this episode is jam-packed with chaos. Recruitix buys a mystery box, Nestlé boots its CEO over an office fling, and Taco Bell AI goes full waterpark mode. Oh, and Chipotle drones are now dropping burritos from the sky. You can’t make this stuff up—so we didn’t. Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Overview of the Episode 03:52 Corporate Drama: CEO Dismissals and Scandals 06:10 A Tribute to Greg Louganis: Olympic Legacy and Challenges 08:53 The Fading Glory of Olympians 09:32 International Students and the Impact of Policy Changes 13:15 Upcoming Events and Networking Opportunities 15:34 Fantasy Football Draft Recap 19:14 Closing Thoughts and Future Topics 19:58 Google's Search Monopoly and Market Dynamics 22:42 The Impact of Workforce Imbalance 26:04 The Future of Google Search and Diversification 28:50 Recruitics Acquires Change State: A Strategic Move? 34:31 Meta's Leadership Shakeup and AI Focus 48:22 AI in Fast Food: Taco Bell's Experimentation
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About The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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