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- Get ready for a jam-packed episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast as hosts Joel Cheesman, Chad Sowash, and Emi B serve up their trademark mix of industry news, corporate earnings, and unfiltered banter.
The episode kicks off with personal updates and shout-outs, covering everything from Chad’s slippery "Charlie Brown" beach wipeout in Portugal to a Harvard report on workplace outcomes, the rise of late-night interviews for night owls.
As the episode shifts into corporate strategy, the hosts put the latest financial filings and major market moves under the microscope. You will hear them break down the Q2 earnings, cost-cutting strategies, and future outlooks for ZipRecruiter, Recruit Holdings, and Indeed.
The team then brings back their signature "Buy or Sell" segment to grade recent consolidation in the space, evaluating MetaView’s acquisition of Reval (and its autonomous coworker "fillmore"), CareerMinds picking up Jobrapido, and the big transition of a long-time leader at LinkUp.
Finally, the episode tackles the serious side of hiring tech with a look at global regulatory compliance and vendor transparency involving Maki People, Mochi AI Assessments and Recruitics, before winding down with a nostalgic debate over the unexpected relaunch of MySpace.
To find out who gets a "Buy," who gets a "Sell," and exactly why the hosts are skeptical of the latest AI trends, you will have to tune in to the full episode. - Ageism is out in the open, AI is masking mass corporate cost-cutting, and 1 in 3 job postings might be completely fake. In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, 20-year HR executive Cassell Kaye from The Reframed Collective pulls back the curtain on a brutal modern job market.
Drawing on her leadership experience at tech and entertainment giants like Disney, Yahoo, and Amazon, she exposes the calculated corporate math pushing older workers out, explaining why companies now treat discrimination lawsuits as just another line-item cost of doing business.
Cassell also deconstructs the current tech hype, framing AI not as a revolutionary replacement for human workers, but as a convenient smokescreen for aggressive corporate cost-cutting and margin protection.
She highlights how automated tracking systems scale existing biases at an unprecedented rate, creating a virtual trap for applicants where even opting out for a "human review" simply results in a resume disappearing into an ignored pile.
Finally, the episode tackles the rise of the "ghost job" phenomenon, explaining the strategic corporate reasons behind the massive 2-million job gap between reported openings and actual hires. If you want to understand how the hiring game is truly rigged and how to navigate a system missing its old safety nets, you cannot miss this candid conversation.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction to Cassell and her background
01:56 - Cassell discusses ageism and workforce bias
04:08 - Impact of AI on layoffs and employment practices
05:54 - Legal risks and the role of government regulation
08:10 - The future of AI and its influence on workforce demographics
10:06 - Advice for workers over 50 facing layoffs
11:57 - The problem with ghost jobs and transparency
13:57 - The role of vendors and bias in AI systems
16:06 - Government actions and the regulation landscape
18:01 - The impact of AI on hiring processes and bias
20:00 - The political and legal challenges in regulating AI
22:07 - The lagging indicators in employment data
24:04 - The real state of the job market and ghost jobs
25:59 - The influence of corporate signaling and investor perceptions
28:03 - Automation, AI, and the future of talent acquisition
29:47 - The role of government and legal actions in employment law
31:57 - Final thoughts and where to follow Cassell
Links
https://www.youtube.com/@cassellkaye
https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassell/
https://www.tiktok.com/@the.reframed.collective
https://www.instagram.com/thereframedcollective/ - The latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast with Emi and Lieven is officially live, and it is a certified must-watch. In this episode, the crew dives straight into a massive legal showdown brewing in the tech world, breaking down the explosive trade secret drama between Rippling and Runlayer.
They also discuss a massive $50M acquisition move by Deel involving Clarity to fight a terrifying new trend in hiring, begging the question: is big tech done buying smaller tools for good?
The conversation takes a sharp turn into the ultimate AI casualties, analyzing how one freelance giant’s stock has cratered a staggering 94% since ChatGPT entered the chat. The team breaks down the absolute collapse of Fiverr and discusses why their desperate pivot to save the platform might already be too late.
Meanwhile, they expose why AI adoption has completely stalled across Europe, how companies are fighting weak data foundations, and the massive compliance hurdles that are about to change the landscape for international employers.Finally, the bots are officially taking over, and the major job platforms are panicking.
he hosts talk about how LinkedIn just quietly rolled out a brand-new button to fight the wave of artificial content taking over your feed, while Indeed was forced to hit the emergency brakes on their aggressive new automation feature after severe user backlash.
Want to know what the crew really thinks about these massive shifts? Tune in to the full episode now on your favorite podcast platform or watch it on YouTube!
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction and Episode Overview
01:14 - European Culture and Vacation Trends
03:26 - Review of the Odyssey Movie
04:45 - Discussion on AI in Entertainment and Media
07:14 - Controversies in FIFA and Sports Politics
09:18 - Belgian Football and World Cup Highlights
11:21 - Deep Fake Detection and HR Security
18:41 - Rippling and Deal Legal Drama
29:39 - Fiverr and AI Displacement of Freelance Work
38:33 - European AI Adoption and Cultural Barriers
49:32 - LinkedIn and Indeed AI Content and Automation
52:48 - Future of AI Regulation and Ethical Concerns
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About The Chad & Cheese Podcast
Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
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