Australian Investors Podcast

Are gold, copper and other commodities becoming a longer-term portfolio decision rather than a short-term trade? In this Australian Investors Podcast conversation, Owen Rask sits down with Justin Lin of Global X to explore the idea of currency debasement, fractured supply chains and the case investors are making for hard assets.

Justin separates two arguments often bundled together under ‘debasement’: concern about the purchasing power of currencies, and a desire by some countries to reduce reliance on the US dollar. He explains why investors have looked at gold, infrastructure and industrial metals through those lenses—while Owen presses him on what can actually be measured, rather than simply repeated as a market narrative.

Copper provides a practical example. Justin argues that trade policy, inventory moving between markets and changing demand can matter as much as the headline about AI data centres. The pair also discuss energy security and the difficulty of securing critical minerals when production and processing are concentrated in a few places. Owen asks what those shifts could mean for a diversified portfolio.

The conversation then turns to portfolio construction: what role might a broad commodities fund play alongside shares and bonds, and how does exposure through commodity futures differ from owning physical assets? Justin describes the Global X BCOM ETF and its range of underlying markets, from metals and energy to agricultural products. Finally, Owen makes him choose between gold and Bitcoin over a five-year horizon. Justin makes the case for gold, while acknowledging that neither outcome is certain. Listen for the framework, the trade-offs and the questions worth asking—not a prediction you must follow.

Episode resources

– Speak with the Rask Advice team

– Ask a question (select the Investors podcast)

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– ETF investor? Go beyond ordinary with Global X: View all funds

– Join Pearler using the code "RASKSWITCH" and get $32 of Pearler Credit

– Whatever comes next for your business, power it with Stripe

Rask resources

– All services

– Financial Planning

– Invest with us

– Access Show Notes

– Ask a question

– We love feedback!

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– Instagram: @rask.invest

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Disclaimer

This episode is sponsored by Global X.

The information in this episode is provided by The Rask Group Pty Ltd and contains general financial product advice only. It does not take into account your objectives, financial situation or needs.

Before acting, consider whether the information is appropriate for you and consider seeking personal advice from a licensed financial adviser. You can read our Financial Services Guide at www.rask.com.au/fsg. If a financial product is mentioned, consider the relevant PDS and TMD, where applicable, before making any financial decision.

Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. Returns are not guaranteed and capital may be at risk.

The Rask Group Pty Ltd is a Corporate Authorised Representative No. 1280930 of Rask Licensing Pty Ltd, AFSL 563 907.
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Private credit has moved from an institutional niche into the portfolios of everyday investors seeking income and lower volatility. But higher income is not free: investors are paid to accept illiquidity, manager risk and the possibility that redemptions are limited when everyone wants out at once.

In this episode of the Australian Investors Podcast, Owen Rask sits down with Nehemiah Richardson, CEO of Pengana Credit, to unpack how corporate private credit works and what investors should understand before committing their money.

Nehemiah explains why manager selection matters when loans cannot be traded every day, how diversification across managers, industries, geographies and lending strategies can reduce concentration risk, and why the liquidity terms should match the time you can genuinely leave your capital invested.

They examine the recent headlines around large US private credit funds, software exposure and redemption queues, including the difference between a genuine credit problem and a liquidity event. Nehemiah also compares Australia’s more concentrated private credit market — particularly its exposure to property and construction — with the broader opportunity set available in the US and Europe.

You’ll also hear how professional investors think about underwriting, covenants, capital protection, portfolio construction and recovery when a borrower runs into trouble. The central message is simple: understand the manager, understand the assets, understand the worst-case liquidity, and do not invest in anything that cannot be clearly explained.

Episode resources

– Pengana

– TermPlus

– Speak with the Rask Advice team

– Ask a question (select the Investors podcast)

Show partner resources

– ETF investor? Go beyond ordinary with Global X: View all funds

– Join Pearler using the code "RASKSWITCH" and get $32 of Pearler Credit

– Whatever comes next for your business, power it with Stripe

Rask resources

– All services

– Financial Planning

– Invest with us

– Access Show Notes

– Ask a question

– We love feedback!

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– Instagram: @rask.invest

– TikTok: @rask.invest

Disclaimer

This episode is sponsored by TermPlus.

22:47 - 24:26: The portfolio is designed to support capital stability and reliable income.

24:27 - 27:15: We manage the portfolio and liquidity with the objective of meeting the relevant term and target-income commitments.

50:54 - 52:57: The objective is to provide a more diversified and resilient exposure through different market conditions.

The information in this episode is provided by The Rask Group Pty Ltd and contains general financial product advice only. It does not take into account your objectives, financial situation or needs.

The Rask Group Pty Ltd is a Corporate Authorised Representative No. 1280930 of Rask Licensing Pty Ltd, AFSL 563 907.

You can read our Financial Services Guide at www.rask.com.au/fsg.

Any views expressed are current as at 17 August 2026 and may change.
TermPlus and PCX are investment products, not bank deposits. Target rates, distributions and capital are not guaranteed. Investments involve risk, including possible loss of capital and restrictions on access to invested funds. Before investing, read the relevant PDS and TMD available at pengana.com and termplus.com.au and consider whether the product is appropriate for you.
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My guest for this week’s 2 Sense episode on The Australian Investors Podcast is Andrew Page, founder of Strawman - Australia’s #1 small cap investment community. Andrew is a very well known commentator, investor and all round good person.

I consider him to be one of the best investors I’ve ever met, and personally consider him in my top three in Australia. So I’m delighted to welcome him back to the show.

Today we’ll cover three really interesting topics: small caps in Australia, the failed IPO of Firmus, and something I’ve been wanting to do for a long time - question Andrew’s take on Bitcoin. I know some of you have probably heard the last one, given his presence on various podcasts, but I want to get to the bottom of why one of the best investors I know made a decision to switch focus from a proven (and great) track record in small caps, to a digital store of wealth and currency

Episode resources

– Sign up with Strawman

– Speak with the Rask Advice team

– Ask a question (select the Investors podcast)

Show partner resources

– ETF investor? Go beyond ordinary with Global X: View all funds

– Join Pearler using the code "RASKSWITCH" and get $32 of Pearler Credit

– Whatever comes next for your business, power it with Stripe

Rask resources

– All services

– Financial Planning

– Invest with us

– Access Show Notes

– Ask a question

– We love feedback!

Follow us on social media

– Instagram: @rask.invest

– TikTok: @rask.invest

Disclaimer

The information in this episode is provided by The Rask Group Pty Ltd and contains general financial product advice only. It does not take into account your objectives, financial situation or needs.

Before acting, consider whether the information is appropriate for you and consider seeking personal advice from a licensed financial adviser. You can read our Financial Services Guide at www.rask.com.au/fsg. If a financial product is mentioned, consider the relevant PDS and TMD, where applicable, before making any financial decision.

Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. Returns are not guaranteed and capital may be at risk.

The Rask Group Pty Ltd is a Corporate Authorised Representative No. 1280930 of Rask Licensing Pty Ltd, AFSL 563 907.
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Can AI make a business more productive — and less profitable? In episode three of The Business Stack of the Future on the Australian Investors Podcast, Owen Rask explores the pricing reset behind AI and the unit economics investors need to understand. If a tool helps four people do the work of ten, charging per user could mean less revenue even while customers get more value.

Owen explains the difference between paying for a seat, usage, credits and an outcome, and why a resolved customer inquiry is not the same as a chatbot attempt. Using a simple example, he shows how computing costs can eat into the economics of each successful AI result.

From Intercom’s customer-support model to WiseTech’s logistics transactions, Salesforce’s agent pricing and Atlassian’s combined subscription and credits, this episode asks what customers value — and whether software businesses can measure and bill for it. Owen also looks at Stripe’s Metronome acquisition and why usage measurement and billing are becoming part of product strategy, not just back-office administration.

For investors, the key is not whether a company calls its revenue recurring. It is what drives customer spending, how costs change with activity, and whether the business can keep enough of the value it creates. Owen closes with a practical lens for judging the pricing power and competitive edge of AI-era businesses.

Episode resources

– Speak with the Rask Advice team

– Ask a question (select the Investors podcast)

Show partner resources

– ETF investor? Go beyond ordinary with Global X: View all funds

– Join Pearler using the code "RASKSWITCH" and get $32 of Pearler Credit

– Whatever comes next for your business, power it with Stripe

Rask resources

– All services

– Financial Planning

– Invest with us

– Access Show Notes

– Ask a question

– We love feedback!

Follow us on social media

– Instagram: @rask.invest

– TikTok: @rask.invest

Disclaimer

This episode is sponsored by Stripe.

The information in this episode is provided by The Rask Group Pty Ltd and contains general financial product advice only. It does not take into account your objectives, financial situation or needs.

Before acting, consider whether the information is appropriate for you and consider seeking personal advice from a licensed financial adviser. You can read our Financial Services Guide at www.rask.com.au/fsg. If a financial product is mentioned, consider the relevant PDS and TMD, where applicable, before making any financial decision.

Past performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. Returns are not guaranteed and capital may be at risk.

The Rask Group Pty Ltd is a Corporate Authorised Representative No. 1280930 of Rask Licensing Pty Ltd, AFSL 563 907.
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This episode is a special recording, taken live from Her Wealth Her Way II in Sydney, and features Scott Phillips, CIO of The Motley Fool, and Jess Leung, Portfolio Manager at Global X, alongside Owen Rask.

Questions are thrown live from the room, and include:

1. The trio's best and worst (dumbest) investments.

2. How to get started with investing

3. Scott's Firmus update

4. The most expensive emotion in investing

And a few laughs!

Thanks for listening.

Warning: this podcast contains general financial advice only. It is not specific to you as it does not take into account your needs, goals or objectives. So please do not act on the information until you have spoken to your financial planner. Read the PDS and TMD of any financial product before investing. www.rask.au/fsg is where you'll find The Rask Group Pty Ltd's Financial Services Guide (FSG).
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