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Catching Up to FI

Bill Yount & Jackie Cummings Koski
Catching Up to FI
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  • Catching Up to FI

    Why This DIY Investor Finally Hired A Financial Advisor | "BiggerPockets" Crossover | 199

    25/02/2026 | 51 mins.
    What happens when a "late-starter" ER doc finally hits FI at 60, then must figure out how to actually spend the money without blowing it—or hoarding it forever? Bill joins Mindy and Scott on the BiggerPockets Money podcast to walk through his full "caught up to FI" debrief. Here his decade-long sprint from single-digit savings to 40%, taking his money back from a private bank, and the 60th-birthday retirement-readiness check that came back with a 100% success rate. From there, they dig into his move from a simple three-fund portfolio to a risk-parity setup, why he hired a flat-fee planner after years as a DIY investor, and how he's using FI to buy back time and jump-start his kids' wealth with Roth IRAs, HSAs, and tax-savvy living gifts.
    This episode covers: 
    ➡️ Going from "rich but broke doctor" to FI in about 10 years
    ➡️ Boosting a savings rate from single digits to ~40% without feeling deprived
    ➡️ Shifting from a three-fund portfolio to a risk-parity decumulation strategy
    ➡️ Using flat-fee, advice-only planner instead of 1% AUM
    ➡️ Order of withdrawals: taxable, pre-tax, Roth, plus asset location
    ➡️ Modeling taxes, RMDs, and Social Security timing in real life
    ➡️ Building a "3-1-1" spending plan for needs, comfort, and luxury/giving
    ➡️ Helping adult kids fill Roth IRAs and HSAs as part of generational wealth
    ➡️ Weighing when to actually leave medicine once money is no longer the boss
     
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    MONARCH MONEY

    The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50
     
    For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners 
     
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    RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.)
    🌐 BiggerPockets Money 
    BiggerPockets Money Youtube 
     
    ⏰ Related Episodes
    Founder of 'Catching Up to FI' Just Hit Financial Independence, Now What? | Bill Yount | 196 
    Flashback to Episode 1: 'A Boat Named YOLO' | Bill Yount | 197
     
     
    If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!
     
     
    📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.
  • Catching Up to FI

    The Biggest Retirement Mistake: Over Saving and Under Living | Rachael Camp & Jesse Cramer | 198

    22/02/2026 | 59 mins.
    Don't be that person who becomes a hoarder in retirement! You know who you are and it's a big concern for those that are champs at saving but reluctant to spend. It almost seems like a good problem to have... but not really! Retirement planners Rachel Camp, CFP® and Jesse Cramer join the show for a tackle the topic and what's known as the "consumption gap"-- the mismatch between what retirees could safely spend and what they actually spend. They discuss how decades of frugality, and dopamine hits from watching net worth climb and similar types of thinking make it brutally hard to flip from saver to spender.
    In this episode we cover: 
    ✅ The 4% rule's real origin story (it was built to avoid failure, not to optimize joy)
    ✅ The very human tendency to over solve for the worst-case market and under solve for lost health, time, and relationships 
    ✅ Strategies Rachael and Jesse use with their clients to help them spend and not hoard their money in retirement
    ✅ Why talking through childhood money stories is often more powerful than another spreadsheet.
    ✅ Debunking the viral "retire later, die sooner" meme and zoom out to what actually affects longevity
    ✅ A challenge tailor-made for late starters: once the math says you've won, stop buy back your time, and don't die with the biggest net worth of your life.
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    DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS
     
    MONARCH MONEY

    The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50
     
    For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners 
     
    SUPPORT  THE  SHOW
    📩 Sign up for our newsletter
    🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website 
    🔗Connect with us
    ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee" 
    🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question

     
     
    RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.)
     
    🌐 Rachael Camp Wealth
    Rachael Camp Wealth Youtube
    🌐 The Best Interest Blog (Jesse Cramer)
    Personal Finance For Long-Term Investors (Jesse Cramer's podcast)
    📄Debunked: The Later You Retire, The Earlier You Die?!  
     
    ⏰ Related Episodes
    Smart Money Moves After 50 | Bill Yount | 142 
    Space Telescopes, Sunflowers, and Financial Gardening | Jesse Cramer | 105 
     
     
    If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!
     
     
    📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.
  • Catching Up to FI

    Flashback to Episode 1: 'A Boat Named YOLO' | Bill Yount | 197

    18/02/2026 | 50 mins.
    This episode is a little time-travel experiment with a flashback to the first episode (A Boat Named YOLO) that started it all. We're celebrating three years of 'Catching Up to FI' and Bill officially coming out as reaching Financial Independence (FI). He started late at 50 but now FI at 60! Be sure to go back and listen to this past Sunday's episode, where Jackie interviews Bill and he openly shares all the juicy details.
     
    ➡️Founder of 'Catching Up to FI' Just Hit Financial Independence, Now What? | Bill Yount | 196 
     
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    DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS:
     
    MONARCH MONEY

    The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50
     
    For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners 
     
    SUPPORT  THE  SHOW
    📩 Sign up for our newsletter
    🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website 
    🔗Connect with us
    ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee" 
    🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question

     
     
    If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!
     
    📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.
  • Catching Up to FI

    Founder of 'Catching Up to FI' Just Hit Financial Independence, Now What? | Bill Yount | 196

    15/02/2026 | 1h 12 mins.
    Don't miss this special 3-year anniversary of 'Catching Up to FI' as Bill marks the moment by doing something he's been helping everyone else do for years: officially 'coming out' as financially independent (FI)! It is hard to believe that the show has been around for 3 years, 196 episodes, 20k Facebook Community members, 1.4M audio downloads and 300k views on YouTube. Is this real?
     
    Today we celebrate Bill's journey from Episode #1: 'A Boat Named Yolo', to officially reaching FI, but feels more like the 'The Fog of FI'. During this interview, Jackie gets Bill to open up and vulnerably share details of his wake-up call at 50: burned out, sued, house-poor after a disastrous renovation and de-risking at the bottom of the Great Recession, and still living paycheck to paycheck despite a 'rich doctor' income. He walks through discovering FI via blogs and books, taking a full year to reclaim his money from private bankers and whole life policies (he's naming names!). Bill's real superpower was boosting his savings rate up to ~40% in his early 50s using Mr. Money Mustache's 'shockingly simple math' to accept a 10 to 15-year timeline.
     
    Fast-forward to 60 and a retirement-readiness check with a flat-fee, advice-only planner: after three years of expense tracking in Monarch Money, a comprehensive plan, and stress-testing with risk-parity portfolios, Bill gets the verdict every late starter dreams of, 'you could retire tomorrow'— and feels weirdly flat. We also dig into the emotional side: the identity crisis of possibly leaving medicine, using newfound leverage to negotiate work on his own terms, the choice to glide out over several years instead of cliff-retiring, and the shift from building wealth to giving with warm hands, mentoring younger docs, and helping his adult sons lay foundations he never had.
     
    We close with Bill's hard-earned advice: 
    ➡️ Reverse-engineer your life from your tombstone
    ➡️ Focus on health span as fiercely as net worth
    ➡️ Stop over-identifying with your job or your number
    ➡️ Remember that for late starters, the real win is feeling less alone while you build a life you won't regret.
     
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    DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS:
     
    MONARCH MONEY

    The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50
     
    For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners 
     
    SUPPORT  THE  SHOW
    📩 Sign up for our newsletter
    🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website 
    🔗Connect with us
    ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee" 
    🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question

     
     
    RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW:
    📄 Bill's 'Letter of Gratitude' and 'Financial Life Policy Statement'
    Saving Our Retirement on Humble Dollar
    Bill's Financial Planner:  Bryan Minogue CFP®, CFA (Kardinal Financial)
     
    ⏰ Related Episodes
    A Boat Named YOLO | Bill Yount | 001
    The Power of Cash Flow Planning | Sarah-Catherine Gutierrez | 016
    The Father of Financial Life Planning (Part 1) | George Kinder | 140
     
    If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!
     
     
    📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.
  • Catching Up to FI

    Work Less, Live More: The New Paradigm of Financial Freedom | Andy Hill | 195

    08/02/2026 | 1h 10 mins.
    Do you want to own your time, work less, and live more? What if the point isn't maxing out every account forever, but designing a week you don't want to escape from? This is the Coast FI life built by our guest today, Andy Hill. He shares the steps you can take to put your family first and escape the 9-5 grind: for good! He takes us through the full arc: starting married life at –$50K net worth, killing the debt in a year with budget parties, saving 40–50% to hit around $500K in investments by forty, then realizing that number was enough for Coast FI. With all that, he realized that what he really wanted was time. 
     
    Andy is an award-winning blogger, podcaster, and family finance coach behind Marriage, Kids, and Money. He's also author of the new book 'Own Your Time: 10 Financial Steps to Put Your Family First and Escape the Corporate Grind', which walks readers through simple, yet highly effective steps families can take to achieve family financial independence. It also features real-life examples of couples who've conquered these family financial independence milestones and found better lives for themselves because of it.
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    DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS:
     
    MONARCH MONEY

    The modern way to manage money! Monarch will change the way you organize your financial life. Track, budget, plan, and do more with your money – together. Get 50% off the first year using this link and entering code: CATCHINGUP50
     
    For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners 
     
    SUPPORT  THE  SHOW
    📩 Sign up for our newsletter
    🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website 
    🔗Connect with us
    ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee" 
    🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question

     
     
    RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.)
    🌐 Marriage Kids and Money
    📕 Own Your Time: 10 Financial Steps to Put Your Family First and Escape the Corporate Grind
     
    ⏰ Related Episodes
    Generosity and Smart Spending: A Family Affair | Andy Hill | 103
     
    If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating and review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!
     
     
    📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

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A mindset, money, and life podcast for late starters catching up to Financial Independence.
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