Catching Up to FI

What if getting to FI has less to do with avoiding mistakes and more to do with surviving them without setting too much money on fire? Bill joins Doug Cunnington of Mile High FI for a refreshingly imperfect look at the financial decisions they wish they could redo. Between them: credit card debt, lifestyle inflation, whole life insurance, expensive advisors, an underwater dream house, a foreclosure, selling stocks at exactly the wrong time, and the very FI-specific problem of eventually becoming too good at saving. But this isn't just a financial confession booth. Bill and Doug compare what actually helped them recover, why "good enough" beats perfect, and how both still reached FI despite getting plenty wrong along the way.
This episode covers
Why financial mistakes are often part of the learning process rather than proof you've failed
Bill's late-start wake-up at 50 and Doug's accidental path into the FI community
How missing financial education can turn needs, wants, and lifestyle inflation upside down
Whole life insurance, expensive advisors, and the opportunity cost of bad financial products
When DIY investing works—and when professional advice can uncover expensive blind spots
Doug's housing mistake, rental losses, and strategic foreclosure
Bill's over-renovated home, car payments, debt, and the cost of "too much house"
Investing mistakes including selling during crashes and chasing recent winners
Why aggressive savers can eventually struggle to give themselves permission to spend
Bill's "fog of FI," phased retirement, and learning to use financial independence instead of merely reaching it
 
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F.I.R.E. For Dummies
Did you know that co-host Jackie Cummings Koski, CFP®, AFC® is also author of "F.I.R.E. For Dummies"? This is the perfect guide for anyone looking to move from the basics of their finances to reaching F.I.R.E. (Financial Independence, Retire Early) and enjoying the time freedom it creates. Even if you feel behind on your finances, the steps in this book will help you catch up sooner than you ever imagined. 
Learn from someone who actually achieved F.I.R.E. in her 40s even after getting a late start 
Covers everything from basics to advanced strategies in one guide 
Practical solutions for early retirement obstacles like health insurance and early withdrawal penalties 
📕 Get Your Copy  (currently 40% off on Amazon)
For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners
 
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RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW
Mile High FI Podcast 
Mile High FI YouTube 
 
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📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Erin Moriarity, the plain-English force behind Erin Talks Money, joins Bill and Jackie to unpack why retirement planning gets easier when we stop worshipping giant portfolio numbers and start thinking in income, spending, and real life. Erin traces her path from buying Campbell Soup stock at eight with her investing grandmother to earning the best 34 cents of her life on YouTube. She eventually grew the massive financial education platform we know today. Then the conversation moves into the stuff retirees actually worry about: whether late starters can still catch up, how Social Security may change, why the 4% rule gets mangled in headlines, and why lifelong savers often struggle more with spending than saving.
This episode covers 
How Erin Talks Money grew from a struggling YouTube experiment into a major financial education platform
The radically different money personalities in Erin's family and how they shaped her approach to finance
Why painful childhood experiences with money made financial independence and control so important to Erin
Why late starters can still make enormous progress with a 10–15 year runway
Why retirement income can feel more meaningful than staring at a large portfolio balance
The evolution of Erin's content from budgeting and FIRE to retirement income and decumulation
Social Security reform, the wage base, the "donut hole," and why no single fix solves everything
Why phased retirement can strengthen both your finances and your quality of life
The psychological challenge of switching from lifelong saver to confident spender
Why scary headlines about Social Security, long-term care, inflation, and retirement spending often need more context
 
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===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS===
F.I.R.E. For Dummies
Did you know that co-host Jackie Cummings Koski, CFP®, AFC® is also author of "F.I.R.E. For Dummies"? This is the perfect guide for anyone looking to move from the basics of their finances to reaching F.I.R.E. (Financial Independence, Retire Early) and enjoying the time freedom it creates. Even if you feel behind on your finances, the steps in this book will help you catch up sooner than you ever imagined. 
Learn from someone who actually achieved F.I.R.E. in her 40s even after getting a late start 
Covers everything from basics to advanced strategies in one guide 
Practical solutions for early retirement obstacles like health insurance and early withdrawal penalties 
📕 Get Your Copy  (currently 40% off on Amazon)
For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners
 
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RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW
Erin Moriarity website
Erin Talks Money Youtube
Erin Talks Money LinkedIn
Root Financial
Erin's forthcoming retirement-spending book (estimated release: December, 2027)
Social Security Online Account
 
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📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

What if the smartest financial planning move isn't a 100-page plan, but one question that makes you stop and say, "Wait... I can do that?" In this crossover with the AICPA Personal Financial Planning Podcast, Jackie puts on her professional hat for two conversations about the small ideas that can create much bigger financial wins. First, she and host Cary Sinnett unpack five high-impact planning opportunities involving 529s, 72(t)s, HSAs, charitable giving, and forgotten retirement accounts. Then they zoom out to the bigger question: why financial literacy, not products or strategies, is the foundation for better decisions and greater financial independence. Jackie also tackles FIRE stereotypes, the shame late starters often carry, and the "superpowers" that can emerge once people stop beating themselves up and start asking better questions.
This episode covers
Five small financial-planning conversations that can uncover much bigger opportunities
New and expanded ways families may be able to use 529 plans
How 72(t) distributions can help some people access retirement money before age 59½
Why HSAs can be much more than simple medical spending accounts
Charitable-giving strategies ranging from smaller deductions to donor-advised funds
How to search for forgotten 401(k)s and other unclaimed assets
Why financial literacy should come before complicated products and strategies
How money beliefs and behavior can overpower mathematically "correct" decisions
Why FIRE doesn't require copying someone else's lifestyle
The late-starter journey from shame and guilt to action, confidence, and financial "superpowers"
 
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===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS===
F.I.R.E. For Dummies
Did you know that co-host Jackie Cummings Koski, CFP®, AFC® is also author of "F.I.R.E. For Dummies"? This is the perfect guide for anyone looking to move from the basics of their finances to reaching F.I.R.E. (Financial Independence, Retire Early) and enjoying the time freedom it creates. Even if you feel behind on your finances, the steps in this book will help you catch up sooner than you ever imagined. 
Learn from someone who actually achieved F.I.R.E. in her 40s even after getting a late start 
Covers everything from basics to advanced strategies in one guide 
Practical solutions for early retirement obstacles like health insurance and early withdrawal penalties 
📕 Get Your Copy  (currently 40% off on Amazon)
For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners
 
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RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW
AICPA Personal Financial Planning Podcast 
Retirement Savings Lost and Found Database
National Association of State Treasurers (Missing Money)
 
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📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Need to figure out health insurance on your own? It's a little scary if you don't get it through an employer and too young for Medicare, but there are lots of options. In Part 2 with health insurance broker, Lyndia Cunningham, Bill and Jackie put early-retirement healthcare planning to the test with three very different case studies. Jackie rewinds to age 49 and walks through the decisions she faced before leaving work, including ACA subsidies and income planning. Bill brings a high-income household with no employer benefits and explains how stumbling into Tennessee Farm Bureau coverage slashed his monthly premiums by thousands. Then listener Brooke explores whether health insurance really needs to be the golden handcuffs keeping her in a W-2 job.
This episode covers
How Jackie could have evaluated healthcare before retiring at 49
Why retirement timing and modified adjusted gross income can dramatically affect ACA costs 
Bronze versus Silver plans, cost-sharing reductions, and HSA eligibility
How to make sure an ACA plan actually includes the doctors you want to keep
What Jackie ultimately paid for healthcare after retiring
Why Bill chose Farm Bureau coverage instead of the ACA marketplace 
How medical underwriting and non-ACA major medical plans work
Health insurance options for adult children aging off a family plan 
How association plans, college health plans, and HSAs can expand your choices
Whether healthcare really needs to keep Brooke (or anyone else) tied to a job 
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This is the second part of a 2-part episode. Be sure to subscribe the show and catch part 1 (episode 239) from 9/27/26.
 
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===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS===
F.I.R.E. For Dummies
Did you know that co-host Jackie Cummings Koski, CFP®, AFC® is also author of "F.I.R.E. For Dummies"? This is the perfect guide for anyone looking to move from the basics of their finances to reaching F.I.R.E. (Financial Independence, Retire Early) and enjoying the time freedom it creates. Even if you feel behind on your finances, the steps in this book will help you catch up sooner than you ever imagined. 
Learn from someone who actually achieved F.I.R.E. in her 40s even after getting a late start 
Covers everything from basics to advanced strategies in one guide 
Practical solutions for early retirement obstacles like health insurance and early withdrawal penalties 
📕 Get Your Copy  (currently 40% off on Amazon)
For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners
 
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RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW
Move Health 
Move Health YouTube 
Health Insurance for Early Retirees 
ACA Health Insurance Marketplace 
 
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📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

What if the biggest thing standing between you and early retirement isn't your savings... it's your health insurance? Bill and Jackie welcome Lyndia Cunningham of Move Health to tackle the healthcare headache that keeps so many Americans working until 65. From COBRA and short-term medical plans to faith-based health sharing and the Affordable Care Act, Lyndia walks through the options that could change your retirement timeline. Throw in retroactive COBRA, Medicaid, college health plans and direct primary care, and suddenly the path to healthcare freedom looks a lot less mysterious.
This episode covers
The health insurance options available to early retirees before Medicare at 65
How COBRA, short-term medical insurance, Farm Bureau plans and healthcare-sharing programs compare
The important differences between ACA-compliant insurance and other types of coverage
How spouses, dependents and college students can access alternative coverage
Retroactive COBRA and planning for the transition out of employer-sponsored insurance
ACA essential health benefits, provider networks and out-of-state coverage limitations
How ACA premium subsidies interact with household income, Roth conversions and HSA contributions
Medicaid eligibility and the complications that can arise for early retirees and their families
Dental, vision, accident and critical illness coverage beyond a basic health insurance plan
How HSAs and direct primary care can fit into a broader retirement healthcare strategy
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This is the first part of a 2-part episode. Be sure to subscribe to the channel and catch part 2 next week (10/4/26).
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=== SUPPORT  THE  SHOW ===
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🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question

 
.
===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS===
F.I.R.E. For Dummies
Did you know that co-host Jackie Cummings Koski, CFP®, AFC® is also author of "F.I.R.E. For Dummies"? This is the perfect guide for anyone looking to move from the basics of their finances to reaching F.I.R.E. (Financial Independence, Retire Early) and enjoying the time freedom it creates. Even if you feel behind on your finances, the steps in this book will help you catch up sooner than you ever imagined. 
Learn from someone who actually achieved F.I.R.E. in her 40s even after getting a late start 
Covers everything from basics to advanced strategies in one guide 
Practical solutions for early retirement obstacles like health insurance and early withdrawal penalties 
📕 Get Your Copy  (currently 40% off on Amazon)
For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners
 
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RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW
Move Health 
Move Health YouTube 
ACA Health Insurance Marketplace 
 
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⏰ Related Episodes
Mind Blowing ways to Maximize Your Health Savings Account (HSA) | Jeff York | 98
Maximizing HSAs Part 2: Devising Drawdowns, Badass Scenarios, Listener Questions | Jeff York | 99
 
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📌Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.