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- The coordinated global response to climate change-driven displacement is relatively new. Just a few decades ago, virtually no governments were paying attention to the ways in which people were being displaced by extreme weather, sea-level rise, and other climate events. Although the international response remains a work in progress, significant strides have been made to bring the world together.
One of the people responsible for that coordination is Walter Kälin, a longtime humanitarian expert and legal scholar who is now the Envoy of the Chair of the Platform on Disaster Displacement, a country-led initiative that works to protect people at risk of climate-related displacement. In this discussion, he breaks down where things stand today in terms of a coordinated response and how things might evolve in the future.
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Chapters
01:15 Evolution of Global Displacement Policy
06:45 Climate Change Enters the Displacement Agenda (2004–2010)
10:28 The Nansen Initiative and the Birth of the Platform on Disaster Displacement
17:55 Lessons Learned: Bottom-Up Over Top-Down Approaches
19:58 Navigating Declining Funding and Political Fragmentation
24:30 Advice for the Next Generation - Climate change can be devastating for individuals’ health and safety. Climate-linked natural disasters can cause physical injuries and damage health-care systems, while slow-onset changes such sea-level rise can lead to the spread of disease and make it harder for people to obtain care.
In that context, leaving a climate-vulnerable place can potentially lead to better health outcomes—but only under the right circumstances.
In this episode, we speak with Ilse Ruyssen, an economist at Ghent University and the UN University Institute on Comparative Regional Integration Studies, who leads the CliMigHealth research network.
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Chapters
01:19 Health Vulnerability among Climate Migrants
05:13 Groups at Highest Risk
08:36 When Migration Protects Health
11:51 How Climate Change Directly Harms Health
17:02 Strain on Health-Care Systems
22:18 Countering the "Migrants as Health Risk" Narrative
25:48 Mental Health and Climate Displacement
27:48 What to Do? - Climate change is making home insurance more expensive and less available, as the multibillion-dollar losses caused by hurricanes, wildfires, and other disasters increase in scale. Rising insurance premiums can push some people to relocate or force others to either pay more money to remain in their home or go without insurance and risk catastrophe if disaster strikes. Residents, insurance companies, and policymakers in high-income countries are beginning to reckon with these issues and are working to find a way to adequately offset risk without charging exorbitant prices. This episode features Talley Burley, who analyzes climate risk and insurance at the Environmental Defense Fund.
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Chapters
02:17 How Climate Change Is Raising Insurance Costs
06:04 Hazards Driving Insurability Concerns
07:38 Insurance Costs as a Driver of Migration
09:49 Climate Entrapment and Equity Issues
15:13 Policy Solutions: Adaptation, Building Codes and Wraparound Services
18:52 The National Flood Insurance Program: Origins and Trade-offs
26:00 Hurricane Sandy: Lessons in Recovery and Relocation - Refugees are often some of the people most vulnerable to climate change. After fleeing armed conflict or persecution, many refugees end up in camps located in rural areas, with few resources and little support. That can leave them vulnerable to floods, storms, extreme heat, or other impacts of climate change.
This episode focuses on these impacts, with insights from Ayoo Irene Hellen, a South Sudanese refugee in Uganda and climate advocate. She discusses her own experiences, those of her community, and the value of including refugee voices in planning.
Want to dive deeper? Listen to an earlier episode speaking with the UN refugee agency’s special advisor on climate action: https://mpichangingclimatechangingmigration.podbean.com/e/no-climate-refugees-but-still-a-role-for-the-un-refugee-agency/
All of MPI’s work on climate migration is here: https://www.migrationpolicy.org/topics/climate-change
00:00 Intro
02:45 Climate impacts on refugee settlements in Uganda
09:32 Legal and socioeconomic barriers to climate adaptation
16:52 Exclusion of refugees from climate policy processes
19:21 Refugee-led community resilience strategies
23:11 Climate challenges upon return: The case of South Sudan
27:24 Closing thoughts: co-creation and refugee inclusion - Many Indigenous people have a deep connection to their ancestral homelands that dates back centuries. What happens when climate change and other factors force them to move away from those lands? This episode discusses issues affecting Indigenous people, especially in the Americas. Our guest is environmental scientist Jessica Hernandez, a climate justice and Indigenous advocate. She discusses the factors compelling migration for Indigenous communities, their experiences after migration and the dearth of Indigenous voices in policy discussions over climate change and migration.
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