Money of Mine

Stephen Gorenstein manages the ARI Resources Fund at SG Hiscock.

A former geologist, he spent a decade as a sell-side analyst at Goldman Sachs and Bank of America before working in M&A at Newcrest and St Barbara.

We dig into how he builds the portfolio and the stocks he likes right now.

Stephen covers:

• Why he’s 40% gold and 30% copper
• The commodities he avoids
• Andina Copper and the Guinea gold story
• Vault, Pantoro and Firefly
• Why he thinks we’re still early in a mining boom

Stocks mentioned: RIO, SBM, ANDC.V, MC2, PDI, AS1, WAF, MPK, PRU, GMD, RRL, RMS, BNZ, PNR, FFM, MM1, WCN, SLS, SFR, LIN, MEI, VMM, LYC, NXG, CCO.TO, AEU, PDN, NGX, PKO

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TIMESTAMPS  
(00:00) Intro
(00:50) Geo to sell side to Newcrest and St Barbara
(03:50) Buying the ARI fund and merging into SG Hiscock
(05:45) Sell side vs buy side
(08:05) Portfolio mix and what actually drives gold
(10:10) Why copper is generational and uranium isn't
(12:40) Abundance, supply and the lithium lesson
(14:20) What they avoid: lithium, nickel, aluminium, coal
(16:35) Andina Copper
(19:05) Position sizing: fat head, long tail
(21:35) Picking stocks in Africa
(22:55) Asara and management-proof ore bodies
(24:50) Strip-adjusted grade
(26:35) Many Peaks
(28:35) Predictive Discovery, Bankan and the Perseus stake
(31:30) Vault: from Red 5 to Genesis
(35:00) Benz Mining
(37:20) Pantoro and Racetrack
(39:55) Firefly Metals
(41:35) Copper explorers: Midas, White Cliff, Solstice
(44:30) Lindian and rare earths
(45:55) Viridis and Brazilian clay
(46:40) NexGen, Atomic Eagle and Paladin
(49:15) Latest buys: Castle, NGX, Peako
(50:30) Non-consensus: still early in a mining boom
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Darko Kuzmanovic, Portfolio Manager of the Janus Henderson Global Natural Resources Fund, is back on the show.
A metallurgist by training, Darko’s fund was up 20% by February. Then came Iran, rising rates and a full risk-off reversal.
We get his read on where we sit in the cycle, and why he’s finding better value in Canadian gold miners than in WA.
Darko covers:
• The uranium disconnect, and why AI demand for copper has been overdone
• Turnaround stories at IAMGOLD, Equinox Gold and Ero Copper
• Northern Star, Gold Fields and whether Hemi was a good buy
• Minerals 260, EQ Resources and Develop
• Lithium volatility, and why Glencore listing in Sydney is good for the ASX

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TIMESTAMPS  

(00:00) The Risk-Off Year in Resources
(06:00) The Uranium and Copper Disconnect
(12:10) Capex Inflation and Energy
(16:10) Canadian Gold Miners and IAMGOLD
(22:10) Equinox Gold and Ero Copper
(27:50) Northern Star, Gold Fields and Hemi
(33:10) Minerals 260
(37:10) EQ Resources and Tungsten
(43:10) Develop Global
(46:50) Lithium and Glencore
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His last Takeovers Panel fight cost him $3k. The one before that cost half a million.

Activist investor Jeremy Raper is going after the ASX’s forgotten cash boxes, the broken mining microcaps that trade well below the cash they hold. AI has slashed the cost of taking on a board, and it’s working: he’s batting three for four at the panel this year, including a ruling that hands 25% of DGR Global to ASIC to sell.

We get into how he finds these situations, how he fights them, and what he’s got wrong along the way.

•⁠ ⁠DGR: the Tenstar Trading paper trail, the panel’s finding, and 25% of the stock vesting with ASIC
•⁠ ⁠TerraCom: the Orbit-underwritten rights issue, ownership changing during the offer, and a $100m+ impairment
•⁠ ⁠Alara: 51% of an Omani copper mine at about 2x free cash flow
Lessons from Humm: proxy advisors, fair-weather friends, and why you bring a bazooka, not a water pistol
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TIMESTAMPS  
(00:00) How AI Changed Shareholder Activism
(09:50) DGR Global and the 20% Threshold
(15:50) Tenstar Trading and the Panel Case
(21:00) Unlocking Value at DGR
(26:20) TerraCom
(32:50) The TerraCom Impairment
(41:40) Alara Resources
(47:30) Canyon Resources and the Humm Campaign
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We’re at IMARC, and we sat down with four guests from four very different corners of mining capital.

Mark Kristoff of commodity trader Traxys, Sylvain Eckert of InfraVia’s French-backed critical metals fund, Jason Chang of private equity group EMR Capital, and Rob Stein, who left Macquarie’s research desk to join Latrobe Magnesium.

We cover:

• How a commodity trader actually makes money, and why tungsten won’t go back to $300

• InfraVia’s Core Lithium thesis, and why DLE isn’t the water fix it’s sold as

• The role of private equity in mining, and why Australia’s margins are narrowing

• Magnesium: a 1 million tonne market with 97% of supply from China and Russia

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TIMESTAMPS  

(00:00) Intro
(01:20) Mark Kristoff, Traxys
(14:40) Sylvain Eckert, InfraVia
(30:10) Jason Chang, EMR Capital
(47:30) Rob Stein, Latrobe Magnesium
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There's chaos across the board for mining shares… it’s red everywhere. 
The materials index officially a bear market losing over 20% of its value in just over a month. 
With this in mind, we dig into: 
What's behind the relentless selling  

Is it justified – or overdone 

Are we finding value out there 

Plus, some of the most fascinating stock news from the week 
The Goldfields Northern Star dance continues 

New Hope scoops up Malabar 

Genesis to sell some assets 

CuFe consolidates Tennant Creek 

Stocks mentioned: BHP, RIO, FMG, PLS, IGO, CSC, SFR, FEG, PDN, BOE, NXG, GFI.J, NST, YAL, NHC, SMR, WHC, 29M, OBM, ALK, GMD, HWK, CUF, Entrée, Tether 
This was recorded on 23/10/2026.   

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TIMESTAMPS  
(01:20) The Mining Sell-Off(05:30) Thermal Coal and New Hope's Malabar Deal(09:20) The Three SR Trade and Record Short Interest(14:00) Why the Market Is Short Resources(18:50) Gold Fields, Northern Star and Deal Updates(23:10) 29Metals
(28:30) Entrée Resources and Hawk Resources
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