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The Best Part of Travel | Inside the Business of Destination Experiences

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The Best Part of Travel | Inside the Business of Destination Experiences
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  • The Best Part of Travel | Inside the Business of Destination Experiences

    Camels, Channels & Connectivity: Booking Tech & Beyond with Meredith Rangel

    08/04/2026 | 1h 4 mins.
    In this episode of The Best Part of Travel, Janelle Visser and Stephen Joyce head Down Under (virtually) for a conversation with Meredith Rangel, founder of Bookable Tourism, who is on a mission to get Australia's tourism industry connected to the right booking technology. With a background spanning hotels, attractions, and booking tech startups, Meredith brings a rare, vendor-neutral perspective to one of the most overwhelming decisions an operator can make: which booking system is right for me?
    From walking and wine tours to major city attractions, the conversation covers why so many operators are still stuck on spreadsheets and emails — and what they can do about it, without breaking the bank.
    🦘 Topics we cover:
    The APAC booking tech gap: Why the Asia-Pacific & Oceania region has the lowest booking tech adoption globally, and what it means for operators who want to grow.

    The 80/20 rule for choosing a booking system: Most systems do 80% of the same things — it's the 20% that matters, and knowing your business needs is the key to finding your best fit.

    Mobile first (or else): Why booking systems that aren't built for mobile are leaving operators — and their customers — behind, and what "mobile first" really means on the ground (i.e. “Can I do this from the back of a camel?”)

    Beyond the booking: How operator expectations of booking tech are evolving — from simply holding a reservation to resource and revenue management, AI forecasting and more.

    Connectivity & distribution demystified: What operators often don't realize about the reach of OTA partnerships, the importance of net rate pricing from day one, channel management, and why OCTO matters.

    From Napster to Spotify: The new wave of slick, intuitive res tech platforms coming to market — and why established systems risk being left behind if they don't innovate.

    Practical advice for overwhelmed operators: Meredith's no-nonsense framework for shortlisting and selecting a booking system, including the checklist she uses with her own clients.

    Why Arival is going to Brisbane: The state of the Australian experiences sector, and why now is the right moment for operators across Australia, New Zealand, and the rest of Oceania and APAC to come together.

    Some resources and other things we mention:
    Arival Report: The State of Booking Tech

    Seinfeld “You hold the reservation” clip

    Arival Innovation Showcase: Featuring AI tech for tour operators 

    Arival Guide: How to Choose a Booking System 

    How to Set Net Rates: Arival article by Meredith -

    OCTO: open-source API and connectivity standard for tours, activities and attractions  

    Meredith’s booking resources hub on Bookable Tourism (Including the checklist she mentions)  

    Upcoming Arival Events: 

    Valencia, Spain (April 27-29, 2026)

    Brisbane, Australia (June 22-24, 2026)  

    Spokane, U.S. (October 13-16, 2026)

    The Best Part of Travel podcast is brought to you by Arival. Season Three is sponsored by Protect Group.
  • The Best Part of Travel | Inside the Business of Destination Experiences

    Curation, Customer Obsession & Competing Differently: Inside Civitatis with CEO Andres Spitzer

    10/03/2026 | 58 mins.
    In this season premiere of The Best Part of Travel, Arival CEO and co-founder Douglas Quinby sits down with Andres Spitzer, the newly appointed CEO of Civitatis — the leading OTA for Spanish and Portuguese-speaking travelers. With a background spanning entrepreneurship and Amazon, Andres brings a fresh, tech-forward perspective to one of the experiences sector's most distinctive platforms. From radical curation to AI-powered personalization, this is a conversation packed with insights for any operator or industry professional thinking about where the market is headed in 2026 and beyond.
    🗺️ Topics we cover:
    What makes Civitatis different: Why Civitatis operates as a curated platform — not an open bazaar — and what that means in practice: 37 Colosseum listings versus thousands on other platforms, and why that's very much by design.

    Curation in action: Civitatis rejects 70–80% of the activities it receives. Andres breaks down what operators need to know about what gets in — and what gets turned away.

    What it takes to succeed on Civitatis: The two things operators who "crush it" on the platform have in common — operational excellence and deep cultural sensitivity for Spanish and Portuguese-speaking travelers.

    The OTA–operator tension (and the flywheel): How Andres reframes the perennial tension between platforms and operators, drawing on Amazon's flywheel concept and Civitatis' partner-first approach.

    Lessons from Amazon: What Andres actually brought from his time leading product and tech for Amazon Business — and it's not what you'd expect. Hint: it's less about logistics and more about customer obsession.

    AI as a superpower, not a replacement: How Civitatis is thinking about AI — not to cut headcount, but to give people superpowers, from voice-to-voice multilingual customer support to personalized feedback reports for operators.

    The future of discovery and hyper-personalization: Why conversational AI is fundamentally changing how travelers search for experiences, and what that means for operators and platforms alike.

    Growth, profitability and the long game: Why Civitatis is proud to have been profitable from day one, its aggressive growth in Latin America, and how it's thinking about scale without sacrificing quality.

    Learn more with these resources: 
    🔗 Civitatis 
    🔗 Global Operator Landscape Report — featuring new data on the growing role of OTAs in operator revenue 
    🔗 Upcoming Arival Events — Valencia, Brisbane & Spokane
    The Best Part of Travel podcast is brought to you by Arival. Season Three is sponsored by Protect Group.
  • The Best Part of Travel | Inside the Business of Destination Experiences

    Hope, Highlights & Happy Moments: Reviewing the Best Parts of Season Two

    05/02/2026 | 1h 6 mins.
    In the season two finale of The Best Part of Travel, co-hosts Janelle Visser and Stephen Joyce reflect on the standout themes and conversations from the past year. Sharing highlight clips from their favorite episodes, they explore what’s shaping the future of experiences, from trust, differentiation, and quality-driven travel to AI adoption, collaboration between attractions, and human connection. Finally, the episode wraps with a special reveal: an announcement of a newly added Arival event location!

    In this episode, we cover (spoilers below):
    Why hopefulness, ease, trust and balance are important themes for 2026.

    Prioritizing quality experiences and the fiduciary duty to protect guests’ time. 

    Getting comfortable with AI usage and how women leaders in tech should approach AI.

    Connecting tour products with User Generated Content (UGC), challenges in multi-day booking tech, and working with travel advisors.

    Why multi-day travel is having a moment, the loneliness epidemic and the importance of human connection.

    Planning ahead for seasonal activations and other special events at visitor attractions, and how getting this right is key to standing out.

    How Australian attractions are collaborating and offering bespoke experiences to attract travelers to the country, VIP Experiences at Sydney Opera House and sailing around Sydney Harbour.

    Transformational travel, phone-free summer camps and getting offline for real connection
    Next Arival event location reveal: Arival Brisbane 2026!

    Some resources and other things we mention:
    Stephen’s Outlook for 2026 on WebInTravel: https://www.webintravel.com/year-in-review-2025-looking-ahead-to-2026-part-4/ 

    Arival research on VIP Experiences at visitor attractions: https://arival.travel/article/attractions-offer-guided-tours-vip-experiences/ 

    Arival Brisbane 2026 (first 100 operators to register receive $100 off ticket price): https://arival.travel/event/2026-brisbane/ 

    The Best Part of Travel podcast is brought to you by Arival. Season Two is sponsored by Protect Group.
  • The Best Part of Travel | Inside the Business of Destination Experiences

    Themes, Trends & Trust: Experiences in 2026 and Beyond with Erik Blachford

    13/01/2026 | 59 mins.
    In this episode of The Best Part of Travel, we sit down with Erik Blachford, former Expedia CEO and longtime travel industry leader, to explore what’s really changing in travel experiences — and what’s not. From AI and consolidation to leadership and human connection, this conversation cuts through the hype to focus on what matters most for operators and experience creators in 2026 and beyond.
    🧭 Why human-led planning still matters in travel: How discovery, anticipation, and choice are essential to meaningful travel experiences — and why fully automated itineraries miss the point.

    🤖 AI’s double-edged impact on travel and experiences: Where AI is already reshaping operations and cost structures, and the looming risks of labor displacement and demand erosion.

    📉 The K-shaped travel economy & inequality: Why high-income travelers are pulling ahead, what this means for mid-market operators, and the risk of travel becoming less accessible.

    🌍 Overtourism, climate pressure & regulation: How environmental limits and policy decisions are reshaping destinations, pricing, and long-term growth potential.

    🧑‍🤝‍🧑 Human connection as the true differentiator: Why tours and activities function more like art than infrastructure — and why authenticity can’t be automated.

    📵 The growing demand for digital detox and IRL (in-real-life) experiences: What screen-free environments, summer camps, and shared disconnection teach us about the future of experiences in an increasingly digital age.

    💡 What this means for operators & leaders: Practical insights on where to focus, how to build resilience, and why leadership today starts with the product and the people.

    Some resources and other things we mention:
    6 Major Themes & Megatrends for Experiences in 2026: https://arival.travel/article/tourism-trends/ 

    Arival Summary Report from the Executive Summit on the Future of Experiences: https://arival.travel/research/executive-summit-2025-the-future-of-experiences-summary-report/ 

    Beyond Capacity: Managing Demand at Europe’s Top Attractions (Arival report on overtourism): https://arival.travel/research/beyond-capacity-managing-demand-at-europes-top-attractions/ 

    Medical referrals for outdoor experiences in Sweden: https://the-european.eu/story-51483/fancy-a-sauna-on-prescription-sweden-becomes-the-first-country-doctors-can-recommend-for-your-health.html 

    Join the next Executive Summit in Valencia: https://arival.travel/event/2026-valencia-exec-summit/ 

    Upcoming Arival events: https://arival.travel/all-events-dashboard/  

    The Best Part of Travel podcast is brought to you by Arival. Season Two is sponsored by Protect Group.
  • The Best Part of Travel | Inside the Business of Destination Experiences

    Popups, Pinkmas and Planning Ahead: One New York Attraction’s Approach to Special Events

    09/12/2025 | 57 mins.
    In this episode of The Best Part of Travel, your hosts Janelle Visser and Stephen Joyce sit down with Haley Ward, VP of Sales at Hudson Yards Experiences, to unpack how one of New York City’s most iconic attractions—Edge NYC—drives demand, delivers exceptional moments, and keeps guests coming back.
    Haley shares how her team uses seasonal activations—including wildly popular concepts like Pinkmas—to transform the experience, create new reasons to visit, and keep the attraction relevant in every season. From premium upgrades to immersive pop-ups and strategic brand partnerships, we explore how Hudson Yards maintains its position as a must-visit NYC experience.
    Whether you're a tour, activity, or attraction operator, this conversation offers inspiration and practical strategies for refreshing your product, engaging new audiences, and standing out in a competitive market.
    In this episode, we cover:
    Seasonal activations that drive revenue and repeat visitation, including the creative thinking behind events like Pinkmas.

    How Edge positions itself within one of the largest and most innovative mixed-use developments in the U.S.

    What modern guests expect, from premium add-ons to memorable, Instagram-worthy moments.

    The role of events, partnerships, and curated pop-ups in keeping an attraction fresh year-round.

    Women in leadership & team culture: creating safety, confidence, and opportunity for emerging leaders in tourism.

    Leadership advice for operators (and everyone, really), including overcoming imposter syndrome, giving yourself a “pep talk,” and inspiring new leaders at every level.

    Actionable advice for tour, activity, and attraction operators looking to elevate their products through creativity and collaboration.

    Some resources and other things we mention:
    🔗 Pinkmas at Edge 
    🔗 The Event-Driven Traveler report 
    🔗 Glasgow Willy Wonka Experiences (What NOT to do!)  
    🔗 Inside Enterprise Attractions report 
    🔗 Upcoming Arival Events

    The Best Part of Travel podcast is brought to you by Arival. Season Two is sponsored by Protect Group.

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About The Best Part of Travel | Inside the Business of Destination Experiences

The Best Part of Travel podcast takes you inside the business of destination experiences. That’s all the things you do when you get there. It’s been an underdog sector of the wider travel industry for decades, but the world is catching on, as more people prioritize experiences over things. It’s a sector filled with passionate people, incredible stories, and many unique and interesting challenges. In each episode, your hosts — Janelle Visser from Arival and industry veteran Stephen Joyce — will explore a different topic that’s relevant for operators of tours, activities and attractions today.
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