The Burnt Toast Podcast
Virginia Sole-Smith & Corinne Fay

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- You're listening to Burnt Toast! We are Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay and today we are discussing longevity final boss, Bryan Johnson.
Bryan Johnson is a person I did not know existed, but Corinne says is the most famous toxic man trying to live forever through diet culture and technology. Wish I knew less! But he's a major driving force in diet culture right now, so we're getting into:
⭐️ What is a "Blood Boy" and who needs one?
⭐️ Why Bryan tweets his son's nightly erection data.
⭐️ A girlfriend who has the "top 1% of all vaginas" (and how us non-elite vaginas should feel about that).
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And on Indulgence Gospel!
Corinne and I are discussing credit cards: Do we love them? Fear them? And are credit card points a diet? (If so, Virginia is ON IT.)
Indulgence Gospel segments are for paid subscribers, who also get transcripts and commenting privileges. Don't miss out — join us here!
If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 39:20! You can find an AI-generated transcript of this segment if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify!
BUTTER & LINKS
Virginia's Butter: foam roller
Corinne's Butter: Kin by Tayari Jones
The Wall Street Journal Instagram post
Bryan Johnson's "Don't Die Protocol"
Famished by Anna Rollins and Tia Leving's memoir
New York Times (gift link): He Said He Was the World’s Healthiest Man. Then Came a Stunning Diagnosis.
The Cut: Bryan Johnson Is Dating His Co-founder
Info on his girlfriend's vaginal microbiome that he tweeted.
The Wall Street Journal: Bryan Johnson’s Girlfriend Wants to Share Her Body With the World
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Housekeeping note: We've changed things up a bit to solve some behind-the-scenes tech issues, so here's how to get your Burnt Toast fix:
FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.
PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/bryan-johnson-is-168956631
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism! - You're listening to Burnt Toast! I'm Virginia Sole-Smith, and today my conversation is with Zoë Bisbing.
Zoë is an internationally recognized therapist, speaker, and content creator who helps people feel more at home in their bodies. She is the founder of Body-Positive Therapy NYC, a group practice specializing in the treatment of eating disorders, and the creator of the bestselling Substack Body-Positive Home. Her work reaches more than 100,000 caregivers, educators, clinicians, and adults learning how to nurture body image resilience in the next generation while transforming their own relationships with food and their bodies along the way.
Zoë joined me to chat about:
⭐️ What you can do around the house to show your kids that your home is safe for all bodies.
⭐️ How we're preparing for back to school season—especially clothes shopping!
⭐️ A listener question from the Anti-Diet Parenting chat that sums up so many of the struggles that so many of us have as we're parenting in the abyss that is diet culture.
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FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.
PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.
Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I will be answering another listener question from the Burnt Toast Anti-Diet Parenting chat. This person needs to know what to do about a diety ex-husband. Don't miss out — join us here!
Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 48:00.
BUTTER & LINKS
Virginia's Butter: Turning sidewalk chalk into paint by bashing it up with rocks and mixing it with water.
Zoë's Butter: Ina Garten's cream cheese frosting, the anticipation of a girls trip, organizing art supplies and finding a surprise treat from her daughter.
"Can we take GLP1s in a Body-Positive Home? And other balancing act questions..." (Substack)
Zoë's reel about putting a NWFMBA bag in your kids' closet.
Barefoot Contessa flag cake recipe
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/episode-261-zoe-164981251
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism! - You're listening to Burnt Toast! I'm Virginia Sole-Smith, and today my conversation is with Cole Kazdin.
Cole is an Emmy Award-winning television journalist and author of What's Eating Us: Women, Food, and the Epidemic of Body Anxiety.
Cole joined us as an eating disorder expert, and as a fellow woman in perimenopause who is reeling from all the diet culture nonsense coming for us in this stage of life. Cole will help us answer: Is menopause a diet? And we’ll also talk about everyone’s favorite menopause influencer, Dr. Mary Claire Haver. Is SHE a diet?
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FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.
PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.
Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment.
This week Corinne and I are answering your fat fashion questions! How to manage a wardrobe to fit weight fluctuations? Is it getting harder to shop as brands eliminate their plus size lines? Skinny jeans, yay or nay? Don't miss out — join us here!
Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 35:09.
BUTTER & LINKS
Virginia's Butter: a plunge pool
Cole's Butter: her friend Catherine’s swimming pool
One last thing! You'll want to read What's Eating Us: Women, Food, and the Epidemic of Body Anxiety after hearing this conversation. If you order it from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "FATTALK" at checkout.
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/is-menopause-164981198
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism! - You're listening to Burnt Toast! I'm Virginia Sole-Smith, and today my conversation is with Savala Nolan.
Savala is a writer, public speaker and professor at UC Berkeley. Her brand new book, Good Woman: A Reckoning is out now. Her first book, Don’t Let It Get You Down: Essays on Race, Gender and the Body, was shortlisted for the William Saroyan Prize and celebrated as a “standout collection” by the New York Times. Savala's writing has been featured in Vogue, Harper’s Magazine, the New York Times, NPR, TIME and more.
This conversation originally ran as a paywalled episode in March, but today we're unlocking it for everyone to enjoy!
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FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.
PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.
Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I are talking about peptides, bro science and I’m sorry to say, Clavicular, the 20-year-old looksmaxxer extraordinaire. Don't miss out — join us here!
If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 31:30. You can read the transcript from our original Peptide Bros episode here. You can also find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify!
BUTTER & LINKS
Virginia's Butter: Heated Rivalry, the show and the books
Savala's Butter: being around water, and extremely trashy reality TV that features a love story
One last thing! If you order Good Woman from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "fat talk" at checkout.
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/double-ep-but-164981135
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism! - You're listening to Burnt Toast! I'm Virginia Sole-Smith, and today my conversation is with Ash Brandin of Screen Time Strategies, also know as The Gamer Educator on Instagram.
Ash is also the author of the book, Power On: Managing Screen Time to Benefit the Whole Family. Ash helps caregivers navigate screen time boundaries, to ensure it benefits the whole family. I turn to Ash’s work whenever I am feeling panicked about our family’s relationship with screen time — which happens every summer around this time, so it seems like a good moment to revisit this conversation!
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FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.
PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.
Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I will be talking about plus size fashion influencer and body acceptance advocate Katie Sturino — who teamed up with WeightWatchers. What happened there? Where is the line between body liberation activism and capitalism? Don't miss out — join us here!
If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 50:24. You can read the transcript from Katie Sturino's original episode here. You can also find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify!
BUTTER & LINKS
Virginia's Butter: A floof
Ash's Butter: A Mamachari bicycle
One last thing! You'll want to read Power On: Managing Screen Time to Benefit the Whole Family after hearing this conversation. If you order it from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "FATTALK" at checkout.
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/double-ep-screen-164981019
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!
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About The Burnt Toast Podcast
Burnt Toast is your body liberation community. We're working to dismantle diet culture and anti-fat bias, and we have a lot of strong opinions about comfy pants.
Co-hosted by Virginia Sole-Smith (NYT-bestselling author of FAT TALK) and Corinne Fay (author of the popular plus size fashion newsletter Big Undies).
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