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  • 77 Years of Resilience: A Generational Perspective on Palestine
    In this deeply moving episode, I have the honour of speaking with Antoine, a survivor of the 1948 Nakba, and his daughter, Yasmine. Recording on the anniversary of October 7th, we contextualise the current genocide in Gaza not as an isolated event, but as the continuation of an incremental process of erasure that has unfolded over the last 77 years.Antoine shares his personal story of being exiled from his home in Haifa at age seven , and his father’s determination for his children to become "citizens of the world, not refugees". Yasmin speaks to the generational differences in activism, the profound impact of social media in shifting global consciousness, and how becoming a mother has fuelled her fierce advocacy for Palestine. This conversation is a powerful exploration of Palestinian history, identity, resilience, and the unwavering hope for a free and democratic future for all.Key TakeawaysThe current genocide in Gaza is not a recent conflict but the culmination of a 77-year incremental process of displacement and erasure of the Palestinian people that began with the 1948 Nakba.Social media has been fundamental in exposing the reality of the Palestinian struggle to a global audience.There is a significant generational difference in experiencing and processing the struggle. The vision for a "one-state solution" from a Palestinian perspective is an inclusive, democratic state in historic Palestine where all 14 million inhabitants, including returning refugees, can live with equal rights.Episode Highlights01:08: Antoine contextualises the current genocide within the 77-year history since the 1948 Nakba, sharing harrowing statistics from the last two years15:59: Antoine shares his personal story of being exiled from Haifa at age seven during the Nakba and his family’s journey north on the back of a truck23:08: Yasmine recounts how her Palestinian heritage influenced her university dissertation, which challenged Golda Meir's claim that the Palestinian people never existed, and questions if such a project would be permitted today01:01:04: Yasmine speaks powerfully about how motherhood has shaped her fierce advocacy and her sadness at the silence from the wider motherhood community in the face of atrocities against Palestinian children and familiesAbout the GuestThis episode features Antoine, a Nakba survivor and retired architect, and his daughter Yasmin, a passionate advocate and activist for Palestine.Antoine's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/antoineraffoul/?hl=enYasmin's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sayfitnessptEpisode LinksIlan Pappé (Israeli historian)Salman Abu Sitta (Historian and author)Ghassan Kanafani (Palestinian writer)Ta-Nehisi Coates (Author and journalist)Children Not Numbers Yasmin's YouTube interview with her father, Antoine Connect with Megan:Instagram: ⁠@‌HigherLove_withMegan⁠Website: ⁠www.higher-love.com⁠This episode was written and recorded by me and produced by Lucy Lucraft (lucylucraft.co.uk).If you enjoyed this episode please leave a 5* rating and review!
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  • Bearing Witness: An account from inside Occupied Palestine
    In this episode, I speak with "Marnie" (pseudonym for security reasons) who recently returned from volunteering in the West Bank with the International Solidarity Movement (ISM). Marnie shares her firsthand account of providing protective presence and solidarity to Palestinian families in the Jordan Valley. She describes the daily realities of the occupation, from the psychological impact of checkpoints and a constant military presence to the sharp increase in settler violence since October 7th 2023.We explore the incredible steadfastness ("Sumud") and community resilience of Palestinians, the complexities of non-violent resistance, and the crucial role of international solidarity in bearing witness and supporting the struggle for liberation.Key Takeaways:Life in the West Bank is characterised by a constant state of hyper-vigilance due to the omnipresent threat of settler and military violence, which functions as a form of psychological warfare. Since October 7th, Israel has used the focus on Gaza as a distraction to significantly increase violence, harassment, home demolitions, and land displacement in the West Bank. Palestinian resistance is deeply rooted in steadfastness (SUmud) and an incredible sense of community and mutual aid, where survival and liberation are intrinsically linked. The role of international activists is not to lead or instruct, but to be Palestinian-led, offering solidarity, documenting events, and providing a protective presence that may help deter attacks. Episode Highlights:05:29: Marnie describes her initial experiences of the occupation, witnessing militarised checkpoints, the separation wall, and a surreal encounter with a heavily armed young soldier on a public bus. 10:18: An explanation of how Israel is using Gaza as a 'distraction' to intensify attacks, annex land, and displace communities in the West Bank by establishing settlements, outposts, and closed military zones. 24:08: Marnie discusses the concept of Palestinian steadfastness, or Samud, and the powerful resilience and community spirit she witnessed, which stands in stark contrast to the constant psychological pressure of the occupation. 33:40: Marnie explains ISM's core principle of non-violence for internationals, while simultaneously stressing the importance of never telling Palestinians how to conduct their own resistance. Connect with Megan:Instagram: ⁠@‌HigherLove_withMegan⁠Website: ⁠www.higher-love.com⁠This episode was written and recorded by me and produced by Lucy Lucraft (http://lucylucraft.co.uk )If you enjoyed this episode please leave a 5* rating and review!
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  • Fernando Deveras: Humanising the Conversation and Talking to Children About Palestine
    In this RELOADED episode, I speak with educator and father, Fernando Deveras, about the fundamental importance of collaboration and community in fostering human progress. Fernando shares his perspective on how we have moved from a collective species to an individualised one, and how systems can benefit from this alienation. We discuss the power of focusing on shared values to create collective change and the relief that comes from deconditioning from the pressure to have all the answers.Fernando also offers his invaluable experience as an educator and a parent on how to approach difficult conversations with children about complex global and local issues, from poverty and systemic injustice to war and politics. This is a powerful conversation about humanising our discourse, taking responsibility for the knowledge we share, and building a more connected and informed world, one conversation at a time.Listen to the previous episodes with Fernandas below: - Where are the men?- Why my liberation is bound with yoursKey takeaways: Humanity’s strength is in collaboration; our progress as a species is rooted in our ability to work together, a collective nature that has been fragmented by systems that benefit from our alienation. For effective collective change, focusing on shared values and a common vision is more productive than getting caught up in differing methods or opinions. When discussing difficult topics with children, it is crucial to distinguish between what you want them to know and what they need to know to navigate their world, considering their age, emotional maturity, and the potential weight of the information. A vital part of this work involves actively humanising people who are often dehumanised by political rhetoric, reminding ourselves and others of our shared humanity. Episode highlights: 02:00 The simple but profound power of returning to community and connection as the solution. 03:00 How systems benefit from alienating people, using labour union organising as an example.08:00 Key questions for parents: Does my child need to know this? Will this information weigh them down? 11:00 Our responsibility to share knowledge and different perspectives to enrich our collective understanding. About the guestFernando Deveras is an educator, parent, and advocate for social change. With a background as a middle school teacher, he focuses on creating resources and conversations that help both adults and children understand and navigate the complexities of our world with compassion and critical awareness.Instagram: @‌fernandodeverasWebsite: https://latinxparenting.thrivecart.comConnect with Megan: Instagram: @‌HigherLove_withMegan⁠Website: www.higher-love.com⁠This episode was written and recorded by me and produced by Lucy Lucraft (lucylucraft.co.uk) If you enjoyed this episode please leave a 5* rating and review!
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  • Inside the Global Sumud Flotilla
    In this urgent and timely episode, I am joined by Mary, the national lead for the UK delegation of the Global Sumud Flotilla. Mary provides a direct update on the recent drone strike against one of the ships and shares the core objectives of this nonviolent humanitarian mission. We discuss the international legal context surrounding the flotilla, the historical significance of this action, and why ordinary citizens are stepping up where governments have failed.  This conversation is a crucial resource for understanding what is happening at sea and how we, as a global community, can support the call to end the siege on Gaza.Key Takeaways: A Nonviolent Mission: The flotilla is an unarmed, nonviolent, citizen-led mission with three clear aims: to break the illegal siege of Gaza, open a humanitarian corridor for aid, and call for an end to the genocide. Government Inaction: The mission is a direct response to the inaction of world governments to uphold international law and protect civilian life in Gaza. The Power of Ordinary People: The flotilla is comprised of ordinary citizens from around the world, including builders, nurses, and accountants, who are putting their bodies on the line to stand for our collective humanity. Upholding International Law: The naval blockade imposed by Israel on Gaza is unlawful. The flotilla operates with the legal right to deliver aid to a starving population, challenging the dangerous precedent set by ignoring international maritime laws. Episode highlights:02:41: Mary provides an update on the drone strike that hit the family ship.05:41: An outline of the flotilla's three main objectives.13:46: The historical context of this flotilla as a continuum of an 18-year maritime effort to break the siege. 919:25: A breakdown of the international legal right for this humanitarian mission to sail to Gaza.30:35: Mary details the tangible actions listeners can take to support the mission from home.About the guest: Mary is the national lead for the UK delegation of the Global Sumud Flotilla. She has been involved in work around Palestine for many years. Website: ⁠Freedom Flotilla Coalition⁠Instagram: ⁠@‌freedomflotilla⁠Palestine Solidarity Campaign (PSC)Connect with Megan: Instagram: ⁠@‌HigherLove_withMegan⁠Website: ⁠www.higher-love.com⁠This episode was written and recorded by me and produced by Lucy Lucraft (lucylucraft.co.uk)If you enjoyed this episode please leave a 5* rating and review.
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  • Advocating for All Mothers Everywhere: A conversation with Illiyin Morrison
    In this episode, I have a powerful and moving conversation with the wonderful Illiyin Morrison. Illiyin is a midwife, author, and birth debrief facilitator who specialises in processing difficult and traumatic perinatal experiences. We explore the crucial difference between being 'nice' and being 'kind,' and why she doesn't care about being liked. Illiyin shares her personal birth experiences, how they became a catalyst for her work, and her mission to change the narrative around birth from a passive experience to one of active participation. We also discuss the crisis of apathy, the vital role of community, and why the silence from many maternal spaces on global issues is not surprising, but is rooted in capitalism and a conditioned desire for palatability.Key Takeaways:Kindness Over Niceness: Niceness can be a currency used to conform and remain compliant. Kindness, however, is about being generous and well-intentioned, and doesn't require you to be palatable to the status quo. Active Participation in Birth: It's important to shift the narrative from birth being something that happens to you, to something that happens with you. Recognising your own power and agency is key to being an active participant in your own perinatal experiences. The Antidote to Apathy is Community: Society's glorification of individualism can lead to apathy. The antidote is to connect with community, which stimulates empathy, compassion, and a collective force for change that is feared by those in power. Privilege and Selective Empathy: The reluctance of some mothers to engage with global suffering is a form of privilege. We are capable of handling more than we've been told, and exposing ourselves to the reality of others' pain is how we develop compassion, empathy and humanity. Episode Highlights10:00: Illyin explains the difference between being kind and being nice, describing "niceness" as a currency that keeps people compliant. 11:00: Illyin speaks to the unspoken promise adults make to children to provide physical, emotional, and mental safety for them to develop. 18:00: Challenging the narrative that birth is something that happens to us, and instead viewing it as a process we are active participants in. 28:00: Illyin discusses why many in the 'birth business' have remained silent on global atrocities, linking it to capitalism and the need to remain palatable to sustain their income. 39:00: The glorification of individualism intentionally creates a society of selfish goals; the antidote to the resulting apathy is finding community. About the Guest:Illyin Morrison is a midwife, author of The Birth Debrief, and a birth debrief facilitator. She helps people process difficult perinatal experiences and also ventures into grief processing. You may also recognise her from the Great British Bake Off.Instagram: @illyin_morrisonWebsite: mixingboil.comConnect with Megan:Instagram: ⁠@‌HigherLove_withMegan⁠Website: ⁠www.higher-love.com⁠This episode was written and recorded by me and produced by Lucy Lucraft (lucylucraft.co.uk)If you enjoyed this episode please leave a 5* rating and review!
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Top 5% Spotify Most Shared Podcasts, the Higher Love with Megan Podcast is not just another 'nice-to-have' wellness podcast. It is a disruptive challenge to the status quo, breaking out of the echo chamber of societal narratives within wellness and beyond. Join me, your host, Megan Cooper, a trauma-informed therapist and coach, as we foster an inclusive, diverse space that stands for higher love for all. Through thought-provoking, bold conversations that reunite wellness with social justice and activism, we remember our collective humanity and stand together as ambassadors for change.
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