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  • Values and Courage in Politics with Amna Abdullatif
    In this episode, I talk with the incredible Amna Abdullatif, a community activist, campaigner, and Manchester City Councillor. Amna shares her powerful journey, from her childhood experiences moving from Libya to the UK to co-founding the viral anti-racism campaign group, The Three Hijabis.We discuss the responsibility that comes with having a platform, how media narratives can breed hate, and the challenges of navigating political spaces as a visibly Muslim woman. Amna also speaks with candour about her principled and emotional decision to leave the Labour Party over its position on Gaza, and what it means to stay true to your values, even when it’s the harder path. This is a profound conversation about identity, belonging, and the courage to fight for change.Key TakeawaysThe Nature of Belonging: Belonging isn't about fitting in or changing who you are. It's about understanding that you have a right to be in any space you occupy and that your unique experiences and background are valuable.Use Your Platform: If you are given a platform or an opportunity to create change, you have a responsibility to use it. Change can be instigated by a few, but it requires the support of many to gain momentum.Hate Breeds Hate: Political rhetoric and media narratives that focus on hatred and mistrust have real-world consequences, creating division and impacting the safety of marginalised communities. It is important to be aware of the stories we amplify.Act with Integrity: Standing by your core values is paramount, even if it leads to difficult decisions. Leaving a political party or a situation that contradicts your principles is not a failure, but an act of integrity and self-knowledge.Episode Highlights03:40: Amna discusses her childhood, moving from a free and liberating environment in Libya to facing racism and Islamophobia in the UK, finding refuge in books and libraries.12:15: The accidental beginnings of The Three Hijabis, when a photo of friends watching football went viral and led to a national campaign against racism with over a million signatures.25:20: How the initial petition evolved into wider educational work, challenging Islamophobia in sports and creating healing spaces for Muslim women changemakers.35:30: Amna shares her unexpected journey into politics after being encouraged by a local councillor and the challenges of navigating party political culture as a visibly Muslim woman who asks questions.43:00: Amna talks through the emotional and deeply personal decision to resign from the Labour Party over its stance on the genocide in Gaza, and the importance of amplifying the Palestinian cause.About the GuestAmna Abdullatif is a Manchester City Councillor, a freelance consultant focusing on women's and children's rights, and a co-founder of The Three Hijabis, an organisation working to tackle racism, Islamophobia and misogyny in sports and culture.The Three Hijabis Website: thethreehijabis.comThe Three Hijabis LinkedIn: The Three HijabisConnect with Megan:Instagram: ⁠@‌HigherLove_withMegan⁠Website: ⁠www.higher-love.com⁠This episode was written and recorded by me and produced by Lucy Lucraft (lucylucraft.co.uk)If you enjoyed this episode please leave a 5* rating and review!
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  • Allyship Begins Where Your Comfort Ends with Kevan Smith
    In this episode, I am joined by the insightful Kevan Smith, a content creator and the founder of the community interest company, Brighton United. Kevan shares his profound perspectives on the crucial difference between merely welcoming people and creating a true sense of belonging.We explore his concept of 'Human Alchemy'—a framework for innovation and collaboration built on shared values, vision, and voice. Kevan speaks to the power of cross-pollination between social change movements and the responsibility we all have to step up for causes beyond our own immediate communities. The conversation also navigates the complexities of male presence in activist spaces, the importance of men as allies, and the collective need to become comfortable with being uncomfortable to foster genuine unity and progress.Key TakeawaysWelcome vs. Belonging: There is a fundamental difference between welcoming someone into a pre-existing space and creating an environment where they feel they truly belong. Belonging implies ownership and the power to co-create the space, which requires established groups to relinquish some control and embrace growth.Human Alchemy: True innovation and solutions to societal discord can be found through "Human Alchemy". This involves first understanding your own values, clarifying your vision for the future, and then learning to use your voice to communicate and connect with others who share that vision, even if they come from different backgrounds.The Power of Adjacent Allies: The most impactful change can occur when you set your own grievances aside to fight for a cause that is not directly your own. When individuals, such as men supporting women's rights, use their position to advocate for others, their message can have a unique and powerful influence.Male Responsibility in Social Change: There is often a deficiency of male presence in spaces dedicated to social change and activism. It is crucial for men to become introspective about the energy they bring into spaces, to challenge the toxic aspects of patriarchy, and to cultivate the resilience and responsibility to show up as better allies.Episode Highlights09:45: Kevan explains the critical distinction between making people feel welcome and ensuring they feel a true sense of belonging.13:30: The breakdown of "Human Alchemy," a three-part concept for connection and innovation based on values, vision, and voice.24:40: Kevan discusses the power of putting your own grievances aside to fight for a cause that is not your own and shares his experience at an International Women's Day event.48:00: Reflecting on a difficult personal experience, Kevan discusses how men can unwittingly bring a toxic or conflict-based energy to otherwise harmonious spaces and why that might lead to their exclusion.01:10:30: Kevan suggests that it often takes a man to challenge a man, highlighting the need for allies and ambassadors to call out problematic behaviour and model a different way of showing up.About the GuestKevan Smith is a content creator and founder of Brighton United, a community interest company dedicated to fostering inclusive representation and belonging in business and cultural spaces. His work focuses on the power of communication and connection to drive positive change.Brighton United Website: ⁠https://www.brightonunited.co.uk/Epiphany Content Website: ⁠https://www.epiphanycontent.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevan-smith-a337431/Episode LinksA Seat at the Table: https://www.instagram.com/a_seat_at_the_table_btn/Misan Harriman: https://www.misanharriman.com/Sam Thomas (Men's Mental Health Advocate): https://www.linkedin.com/in/samthomasmentalhealth/Connect with MeganInstagram: ⁠@‌HigherLove_withMegan⁠Website: ⁠www.higher-love.com⁠This episode was written and recorded by me and produced by Lucy Lucraft (http://lucylucraft.co.uk ).If you enjoyed this episode please leave a 5* rating and review!
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  • Why Your Liberation Is Bound with Mine with Fernando Deveras
    In this episode, I speak with Fernando Deveras, an educator, community organiser, and social media activist. Fernando shares his personal story, from his family's immigrant roots to becoming a middle school teacher and using his platform to educate on complex social issues.We delve into the importance of understanding history, the lonely yet vital work of fighting for justice, and the concept of "revolutionary optimism". Fernando discusses the power of community, how to organise effectively, and the role of education as a tool for either conformity or freedom.This is a powerful conversation about finding our shared humanity and taking collective responsibility in a world that profits from our division.Key TakeawaysThe fight for justice is often not a popular movement in its own time; it is carried by the love and passion of a few who persist despite a lack of widespread support.A true understanding of interconnectedness means recognising that our comforts and privileges can come at the expense of others' suffering, which creates a moral responsibility to act."Revolutionary optimism" is the idea that we can draw strength and hope from the legacy of past generations who fought against and overcame immense struggles, reminding us that change is possible even if we do not see it in our lifetime.Effective community organising is built on finding common goals and connecting on a human level through shared joy, not just shared problems. It’s about reclaiming our natural, collective way of being.Education is never neutral. It can either be an instrument for conformity, reinforcing the dominant worldview, or a tool for freedom that encourages critical thinking and the imagination of a different world.Episode Highlights03:23: Fernando talks about his background, from his family's roots in Mexico to his work as a middle school teacher and community organiser in Santa Ana, California.11:53: Fernando unpacks the meaning behind a James Baldwin quote about love and freedom, and what it says about the nature of social justice work.20:30: In response to a student's question, Fernando explains why he speaks out on issues that do not directly affect him, highlighting the concepts of interconnectedness and collective liberation.30:20: Fernando explains the concept of "revolutionary optimism" as a way to find hope and endurance by looking at the legacy of historical struggles for justice.42:30: We discuss the Malcolm X quote, "We aren't outnumbered, we are just out organized," and Fernando shares his experience on how we can build community and organise effectively.About the GuestInstagram: @‌Fernando.DeverasLatinx Parenting Instagram: @‌LatinxParentingWebsite: latinxparenting.orgEpisode LinksJames BaldwinBook: Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Paulo FreireFBI Counterintelligence Program: COINTELPROConnect with Megan:Instagram: ⁠@‌HigherLove_withMegan⁠Website: ⁠www.higher-love.com⁠This episode was written and recorded by me and produced by Lucy Lucraft (http://lucylucraft.co.uk )If you enjoyed this episode please leave a 5* rating and review!
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  • "Let’s Make Moral Clarity the Vibe" with Misan Harriman
    In this episode, I have the immense privilege of speaking with Misan Harriman, a photographer, entrepreneur, and social activist whose powerful images have captured global attention. Misan shares his perspective on using his platform to speak out on societal issues, the responsibilities that come with his visibility, and his journey into photography. We discuss the importance of documenting truth, the emotional impact of his work, and his inspirations, including the legendary Gordon Parks.Misan also offers insights into his creative process, the significance of empathy in his photography, and his role as Chair of the Southbank Centre, all while reflecting on the current state of public discourse and the courage it takes to stand for human decency.Key Takeaways:The act of speaking about basic human decency can feel like a lonely space for those with a public profile, highlighting a concerning societal shift.Photography has a profound power to tell stories, evoke empathy, and document truth, serving as a vital tool for social commentary and change.Inspiration can be found in the legacy of those who came before, like Gordon Parks, whose work paved the way for future generations of photographers to capture the human condition.Embracing one's unique path and purpose, even if it means navigating discomfort or criticism, is crucial for authentic expression and impact.Art and cultural institutions play a significant role in fostering understanding, dialogue, and connection within society.Episode Highlights:02:03: Misan reflects on how advocating for basic human decency has, surprisingly, become a distinct and sometimes solitary position for individuals with a public profile.17:08: I ask Misan how he navigates the intense grief and rage that comes with his work. He describes his voice and camera as a "sword and shield," enabling him to cut through noise and protect the stories of those affected, emphasising composure in his communication.35:00: Misan shares his experience of the pro-Palestine protests, describing them not as "hate marches" but as profound gatherings "bathing in humanity," representing a diverse and peaceful vision of what society can be.52:00: We discuss Misan's earlier reflections on "Where are the men?" in social justice and activism, exploring the societal conditioning that may contribute to their relative absence and the importance of men leading with gentle strength and vulnerability.01:07:00: When asked what he has gained from his unwavering activism, Misan poignantly states, "There is no pillow as soft as a clear conscience," highlighting the profound personal peace that comes from living in alignment with one's values, despite the challenges.About the Guest:Misan Harriman is a Nigerian-born British photographer, entrepreneur, and social activist. He is the first black person to shoot a cover of British Vogue in its 104-year history. His photography focuses on the Black Lives Matter movement, celebrity portraiture, and documenting social issues. He is also the Chair of the Southbank Centre, London.Website: misantharriman.comInstagram: @‌misantharrimanX (formerly Twitter): @‌misanharrimanEpisode Links:Gordon Parks Foundation: gordonparksfoundation.orgMisan Harriman's short film The After (available on Netflix)**Save the Children: **savethechildren.org.ukChoose Love: choose.loveAl Jazeera Documentary "My Hijab, My Choice": aljazeera.comOwen Jones' article on BBC whistleblowers: https://www.thenational.scot/politics/24811008.investigated-bbc-reports-gaza-found/Nikita Gill (Poet): nikitagill.comEnd credits:Connect with Megan:Instagram: ⁠@‌HigherLove_withMegan⁠Website: ⁠www.higher-love.com⁠This episode was written and recorded by me and produced by Lucy Lucraft (http://lucylucraft.co.uk )If you enjoyed this episode please leave a 5* rating and review!
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  • Beyond Performative Activism: Paris Abbas on True Spiritual Action
    In this episode, I talk with Paris Abbas, a theosophist and yoga teacher who's work has had a big impact on me over the past couple of years. Paris shares her insights on the current global landscape, particularly concerning Palestine, and the often-disappointing silence from within the wellness and spiritual communities. She discusses her personal journey of finding her voice, navigating online negativity, and the importance of spiritual practices in grounding activism. We delve into the performative nature of some Western spiritual circles, the collective "soul test" we are facing, and the necessity of reclaiming our full emotional spectrum. Paris offers a powerful reframing of motherhood as an archetypal force for change and encourages us to reimagine a future rooted in collective care, awareness, and the dismantling of oppressive systems.Key Takeaways:The current global crises, particularly the situation in Palestine, serve as a significant "soul test" for humanity, urging us to move beyond superficial spirituality and engage with difficult truths.True spiritual practice should anchor us in taking action and speaking out against injustice, rather than being a means to bypass suffering or focus solely on personal happiness.Authentic communication, rooted in soul-level truth, is a powerful tool for connection and change, even in the face of online negativity and censorship.There is a collective need to move from a "maiden phase" of development, characterized by passivity, to a "mother" archetype, embodying fierce protection, compassion, and responsibility for all.Reimagining a positive future involves cultivating awareness, challenging the scarcity mindset, fostering community care, and recognising that we have the collective power to create a world where everyone has dignity and basic human rights.Episode Highlights:00:03:16: Paris reflects on the impact of her earlier conversation on "Beyond Colonial Spirituality" and how she has "toughened up" over the past year.00:14:00: A critique of how spirituality in the West can often be about cherry-picking practices for personal happiness, bypassing the world's suffering.00:19:00: Paris explains her powerful concept of this era being a "soul test" for humanity.00:30:00: Discussion on the silence within wellness spaces and the idea that "one day when it's safe, everyone will have always been against this."00:47:00: Paris introduces the idea of the collective silence, especially from women and mothers, as being indicative of a "maiden phase" of development.About the Guest:Paris (Pyarvin) Abbas has been a yoga-teacher/ practitioner for over 20 years and a lifelong Theosophist. She was born and raised in Siberia, Russia, where she went to medical school to become a psychiatrist. She is a child of the world, eternal student of the Ancient Wisdom, devotee of the Great Mother and a mom of two amazing boys.She continues to learn and teach yoga, practices spiritual healing in Therapeutic Touch modality and learns how to grow lush gardens in the rough climate of South Texas.Instagram: @‌ParisAbbas108Fundraiser for a family in Gaza: Check the link in Paris's Instagram bio.Episode links:Leah Kim's podcast Voices on the Side: Episode "Beyond Colonial Spirituality"Re𐊼.Briana LynnSarah of MagdaleneConnect with Megan:Instagram: ⁠@‌HigherLove_withMegan⁠Website: ⁠www.higher-love.com⁠This episode was written and recorded by me and produced by Lucy Lucraft (http://lucylucraft.co.uk )If you enjoyed this episode please leave a 5* rating and review!
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Top 5% Spotify Most Shared Podcasts, the Higher Love with Megan Podcast is not just another 'nice-to-have' wellness podcast. It is a disruptive challenge to the status quo, breaking out of the echo chamber of societal narratives within wellness and beyond. Join me, your host, Megan Cooper, a trauma-informed therapist and coach, as we foster an inclusive, diverse space that stands for higher love for all. Through thought-provoking, bold conversations that reunite wellness with social justice and activism, we remember our collective humanity and stand together as ambassadors for change.
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