How To Be Famous with Whitney Uland

This week, I sat down with one of my favorite humans and one of the smartest creators on the internet — my friend Cat Goetze (@askcatgpt).

We talked about what it really takes to turn creativity into a scalable business, how to stop waiting for permission, and why “climbing Cringe Mountain” might just be your next rite of passage as a creator.

Cat shared her journey from Stanford to Silicon Valley to full-time creator and founder — and the wild story behind launching Physical Phones, her viral hardware startup turned creator-powered case study. She opened up about the tension between being “the talent” and “the boss,” the masculine/feminine energy dance of running a company while staying in flow, and how she’s redefining entrepreneurship through CAT Labs, her newest venture building products and creative experiments at the intersection of art and tech.

We also got real about leadership, letting go of control, and how good-hearted people claiming the resource of fame is one of the most radical things we can do right now.

This one’s equal parts business masterclass, creator therapy session, and cosmic pep talk for anyone who’s ready to create their own lane instead of waiting to be picked.

Connect with us!


Host: Whitney Uland → @whitneyuland


Guest: Cat Goetze → @askcatgpt

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, I got to sit down with my dear friend, author, artist, and coach Toranj Kayvon — and as usual, our conversation went deep.

We talked about what it really means to become self-led instead of survival-led — and how so many of us chase “legitimacy” through external achievements instead of embodying the truth that we already are worthy.

Toranj shares the story of how her U.S. visa denial became the divine detour that led her to create her most powerful work yet — Radiate, a program designed to help creatives regulate their nervous systems, reconnect to their power, and express legitimacy from within instead of trying to prove it.

We also explore:


The difference between inadequacy and illegitimacy — and how collapsing the two keeps artists stuck


How to navigate rejection as divine protection (and why it’s proof you’re being redirected toward your purpose)


The spiritual and scientific roots of authorship, expansion, and worthiness


And the skill of holding both disappointment and faith when your dream doesn’t unfold the way you expected

This one’s for anyone who’s ever thought, “Maybe I’m not cut out for this.”
Spoiler: you are. And as Toranj reminds us — your desire itself is evidence that the reality already exists.

✨
If you loved this episode, make sure to tag us and let us know your takeaways:@whitneyuland and @toranjkayvon on Instagram.

You can learn more about Toranj’s work or reach out to join her upcoming intensive at thetoranshow.com or email [email protected].

And as always — if you’re ready to activate your own Celebrity Energy and become a Self-Made Celebrity, you can apply to work with me directly at howtobefamous.org.

Until next time,
xx
Whitney
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey future celeb — it’s Whitney!

In this episode, I’m joined by my dear friend and creative powerhouse, Sebastian Cail — a singer, songwriter, and filmmaker fresh off of our Sundance run. We sat down to unpack all things art, evolution, and what it really means to stay grounded when you’re living a thousand lifetimes in Los Angeles.

We talk about:
✨ Why the creative timeline feels like “LA years” (aka living ten lives in one)
✨ How Sundance cracked open new layers of identity and artistic purpose
✨ The spiritual weirdness of success — and learning to celebrate your own expansion
✨ Utah food hot takes (yes, we get into Swig, Café Rio, and sugar cookies)
✨ What it means to build a career that’s both sacred and self-directed

This conversation is raw, real, and so full of creative wisdom. Whether you’re an artist navigating your next chapter or just craving permission to evolve, this one’s for you.

🎧 Tune in, tag us, and tell us your favorite takeaway — we love hearing from you!

Follow us on Instagram + TikTok:@whitneyuland | @sebastiancail
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, I’m joined by our HTBF team favorite and returning guest Alex Stewart (@mmentality_) for a conversation that was supposed to be a Grammys recap... and kind of turned into a full behind-the-scenes of what it really means to be seen.

The episode is equal parts chaotic and honest — my power went out, we ended up recording at the gym, and it somehow became the perfect metaphor for showbiz.

Alex and I talk about:
✨ The real reason people struggle with visibility
✨ Why perfectionism blocks your natural magnetism
✨ How to hold your energy when things don’t go as planned
✨ And why sometimes the most “unpolished” moments end up being the most powerful

It’s a fun, messy, and really human conversation about showing up anyway — even when the lights go out (literally).

Follow along:
📸 @whitneyuland
📸 @mmentality_

Special thanks to Glamsquad (+ a link to their home page) for the hair and makeup for the Grammy’s.Use code WHITNEY for $25 off your first Glamsquad booking or WHITNEY15 for $15 off your next one

https://glamsquad.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoo8D4PwWciOwkdUYE1cJpG7HuClWgYM8RQpQ5-6hEF303lErD4W

✨ If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review and share it with a fellow future celeb!

Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

For ad inquiries please email: [email protected]

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, I sat down with the incredible Michelle Lang—a powerhouse producer, actor, and creator whose work has featured stars like Orlando Bloom and Octavia Spencer—to talk about what it really means to be seen in Hollywood and online.

We dove deep into one of my favorite topics: identity as performance. Are we ever not playing a character? And how do we show up authentically while also being intentional about the story we’re telling through our art, content, and careers?

Michelle and I geeked out on the intersection of film and content creation, how the industry is shifting faster than ever, and what it looks like to reclaim our worth as artists without waiting for permission.

We also got raw about the fears that come up when you start to expand—the self-sabotage, the “who am I to do this?” moments, and how to navigate the tension between vulnerability and authority as your visibility grows.

If you’ve ever wondered how to merge your artistry, your business, and your personal evolution into one magnetic, aligned identity—this episode will absolutely light you up.

💫 We talk about:


Why authenticity is a strategy, not a liability


How to build creative freedom outside of Hollywood’s rules


Playing “characters” that are actually higher versions of yourself


The mindset shifts that turn artists into self-made celebrities

Connect with us:

✨ Whitney Uland – @whitneyuland

🎥 Michelle Lang – @themichellelang
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices