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    SEO Myths That Won't Die: Backlinks, GEO, Gemini & What Ranks in 2026

    17/06/2026 | 1h 15 mins.
    E1079: David Quaid returns to the podcast to talk through SEO myths that refuse to die, and why a lot of the current advice around SEO, GEO, AI search, backlinks, content, and LLMs is either incomplete or flat-out misleading.
    We start with the SEO vs. GEO debate and why treating them like two separate worlds can lead to bad strategy. David argues that if your site cannot rank, cannot get crawled properly, and cannot build authority in search, you should not assume AI systems are going to magically find and trust you.
    From there, we get into the myths people keep repeating about content, backlinks, EEAT, Gemini, toxic links, parasite SEO, expired domains, HTML sitemaps, and what helps a site rank in 2026.
    Topics we cover:
    - Why "just build a good brand and AI will find you" is not a real SEO strategy
    - Why GEO does not let you bypass Google, backlinks, rankings, or authority
    - The problem with treating SEO and GEO as separate disciplines
    - Why "good content" alone is usually not enough to rank
    - Why overproducing content and landing pages can waste time and money
    - How Microsoft Clarity can show what users actually do on a landing page
    - Why people often misunderstand thin content, duplicate content, and information gain
    - The problem with surface-level EEAT advice like author bios, outbound links, and forced credibility signals
    - What David thinks people get wrong about the Google API leak
    - Why Google may have author-related and site-related variables without those variables meaning what SEOs assume they mean
    - Why backlinks still matter in 2026
    - Why you do not need backlinks to every page
    - Why constantly buying more links may not help if you are losing or devaluing links at the same time
    - How to think about link quality beyond domain-level relevance
    - Why relationships, partner content, and real pages with traffic can still matter for authority
    - What David would do in the first 30 days of SEO for a new SaaS site
    - Why he recommends publishing low-difficulty pages early and seeing what gets indexed
    - Why he thinks an HTML sitemap matters more than most people realize
    - How an HTML sitemap can help both search engines and AI systems understand a site
    - Why toxic backlink reports are often more harmful than helpful
    - When disavowing links might make sense, and why that is rare for most sites
    - Why Moz spam score and similar third-party metrics can create unnecessary fear
    - How David thinks about expired domains and when they might be useful
    - Why expired domains are risky as a primary domain
    - How PBNs and link farms have changed as Google has changed how it handles link spam
    - Why "link echoes" may be explained by user signals and ranking history
    - Why a page can keep ranking after a backlink disappears
    - How relevance and authority work together in competitive search results
    - Why long-tail keywords can still work extremely well
    - Why the idea that "keywords do not matter anymore" usually comes from people who have worked on very high-authority sites
    - Why Gemini, Claude, Perplexity, and other LLMs can give bad SEO advice
    - Why knowing what advice to ignore is the difference between an expert using AI and a beginner being misled by it
    - Why LLMs often repeat popular SEO myths because those myths rank on high-authority websites
    - Why technical SEO advice is often overstated for new sites
    - Why crawlability is usually more binary than people make it sound
    - Why XML sitemaps do not solve the authority problem for new websites
    - Why parasite SEO is not an automatic ranking shortcut
    - What people misunderstand about using Medium, Reddit, and other high-authority platforms
    - Why some SERPs are much harder to enter than others
    - How click history, backlinks, and relevance can make rankings harder to disrupt
    - Why "we know nothing about SEO" is also a myth
    - How reverse engineering search behavior can still teach SEOs a lot
    - What David changed his mind about after seeing how video content performed
    - The decline of WPBeginner and what its traffic graph may suggest about backlinks, content quality, and site direction
    This conversation is for SEOs, founders, content marketers, SaaS teams, and anyone trying to understand what still works in organic search while AI search changes how people discover information.
    ⭐️ David Quaid on 𝕏 - https://x.com/DavidGQuaid 
    ⭐️ David Quaid on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidquaid/ 
    ⭐️ David Quaid on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@DavidQuaid 
    ⭐️ David Quaid's agency - https://primaryposition.com/ 
    💎 Compact Keywords - My SEO Course - Get paying customers through SEO - Clear step-by-step video breakdowns - SEO templates to be copied and adapted for your products and services: https://compactkeywords.com/ 
    00:00 Legendary Guest Return
    01:15 GEO vs SEO Risks
    04:01 Bing AI Share Voice
    06:55 Stop Content Overproduction
    08:29 EEAT and Thin Content Myth
    12:36 API Leak Explained
    16:57 Backlinks Still Matter
    20:27 New Site First 30 Days
    28:16 Toxic Backlinks Myth
    31:37 Expired Domains PBNs
    34:59 Link Echoes User Signals
    38:44 Relevance Beats Authority
    40:06 Keywords Still Matter
    41:26 Broad Match Rankings Fade
    42:23 Myth LLMs Know SEO
    44:10 Tech Stack Myth
    46:30 Content EEAT Schema Myths
    48:12 Parasite SEO Reality
    49:48 Breaking Into Locked SERPs
    51:56 Reddit Medium Parasite SEO Tactics
    55:24 Myth We Know Nothing
    58:00 Changing Minds On Content
    01:02:22 WPBeginner Traffic Collapse
    01:07:59 Google Infrastructure Moat
    01:11:44 One Thing To Focus
    01:14:15 Wrap Up and Next Debate
    The Edward Show. Your daily search engine optimization podcast: https://edwardsturm.com/the-edward-show/ 
    #searchengineoptimization #seo #webdevelopment #digitalmarketing
  • The Edward Show

    Brand Mentions Are Exploding in Value - But Do Backlinks Still Matter?

    17/06/2026 | 1h 9 mins.
    E1078: Charles Floate joins the show to talk about where SEO is going as Google, ChatGPT, Perplexity, Claude, and other AI systems change how people find information.
    The main question: if brand mentions are becoming more important, do backlinks still matter?
    Charles argues that backlinks still have value, but mentions are becoming much more important because AI systems do not only look at links. They also look at where a brand is mentioned, which sources mention it, how often it appears near certain topics, and whether those sources are trusted in a specific niche.
    We also talk about why Charles stepped back from his day-to-day role at PressWhiz, what he thinks is happening to link building, why small teams may have an advantage right now, and how SEO work is changing as search becomes more personalized and answer-based.
    Topics covered:
    - Why brand mentions are becoming more valuable in SEO
    - How to acquire brand mentions
    - Whether backlinks still matter for AI Overviews, AI Mode, and ChatGPT
    - How AI systems may evaluate trust, authority, and source quality
    - Why different niches may have different ranking and citation signals
    - Why Reddit, YouTube, podcasts, reviews, PR, and community signals can matter
    - The difference between links, mentions, co-occurrence, and trusted sources
    - Why mass AI content can hurt a site long term
    - How small technical teams can compete with larger companies
    - Why Charles left the day-to-day work of a major link building marketplace
    - What he is building next
    - Why video is becoming more important for SEO
    - Why customer support and product quality can affect brand mentions
    - Why automating marketing before understanding it is usually a mistake
    - How AI may change SEO teams, agencies, and software companies
    We also discuss Google I/O, AI Mode, AI Overviews, multimodal search, query fanout, personalization, digital PR, Reddit manipulation, link building marketplaces, indie hackers, AI startups, and why SEO interest is higher than ever.
    ⭐️ Charles Floate on 𝕏 - https://x.com/Charles_SEO 
    ⭐️ Charles Floate on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesfloate/ 
    ⭐️ Charles Floate on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@CharlesFloate 
    ⭐️ Charles Floate on Facebook - https://facebook.com/thecharlesfloate 
    ⭐️ Charles Floate Training - https://charlesfloatetraining.com/ 
    ⭐️ Charles Floate's PressWhizz - https://presswhizz.com/ 
    💎 Compact Keywords - My SEO Course - Get paying customers through SEO - Clear step-by-step video breakdowns - SEO templates to be copied and adapted for your products and services: https://compactkeywords.com/ 
    00:00 Meet Charles Floate
    00:13 Newlywed Europe Plans
    01:09 Why Shift From PressWhizz
    02:24 Google IO Fallout
    04:14 Multimodal Search Future
    06:09 Trust Signals And EEAT
    08:04 Adult And iGaming SEO
    12:08 AI Search Centralization
    14:37 GEO Versus SEO Debate
    18:37 Indie Hacker Beats Brands
    22:25 Leaving PressWhizz Explained
    26:13 Backlinks Versus Mentions
    27:38 Getting Brand Mentions
    29:30 Unbundling Tool Suites
    31:12 Three Startups In Motion
    33:53 Team And Marketing Setup
    34:47 Hiring Video Editors
    36:26 Why SEO Marketing Sucks
    36:43 Avoiding Tough Niches
    37:35 Hiring Editors With AI
    39:21 SEO Interest Surging
    41:55 Optimism About Grounded AI
    45:07 Businesses Struggling With Change
    49:48 What Not To Automate
    54:16 Video Workflow And Descript
    01:00:26 Email And Social Strategy
    01:05:43 Best Next Step CRO
    01:08:22 Closing And Wrap Up
    The Edward Show. Your daily search engine optimization podcast: https://edwardsturm.com/the-edward-show/ 
    #backlinks #linkbuilding #searchengineoptimization #seo
  • The Edward Show

    Do Lost Backlinks Still Help Your SEO? The "Link Echoes" Effect

    15/06/2026 | 9 mins.
    E1076: Do lost backlinks still help your SEO after they disappear?
    We look at the "link echo" effect: the idea that Google may continue to carry value from backlinks even after those links are removed.
    This came up again after a recent Google Search Console bug made many SEOs think they had lost a large number of backlinks. Some people saw link counts drop or even go to zero, which caused a lot of panic. But lost links do not always mean lost rankings.
    I break down an old Moz experiment, written up by SEO Sherpa, where pages gained rankings after backlinks were added, then kept most of those rankings even after the backlinks were removed.
    We cover:
    - What link echoes (or link ghosts) are
    - Why lost backlinks may not always hurt rankings
    - What happened in the Moz link echo experiment
    - Why rankings stayed high after the links were removed
    - Why SEOs often overreact to lost backlinks
    - The difference between losing a backlink and losing ranking value
    - Possible explanations for the link echo effect
    - Why click-through rate and user behavior may explain this
    - Why bad links, penalties, and link echoes are not the same thing
    - What this means for link reclamation
    - Why you should not panic every time a backlink disappears
    The main idea: if you lose a backlink, it does not automatically mean you lose all of the benefit from that backlink. The ranking gains may continue for weeks or months or years.
    For SEOs, founders, and marketers, this is a useful reminder: focus on building pages that deserve to rank and pay attention to what happens after a page gets visibility.
    ⭐️ Link Echoes (a.k.a. Link Ghosts): Why Rankings Remain Even After Links Disappear - https://moz.com/blog/link-echoes-ghosts-whiteboard-friday 
    ⭐️ 21 SEO Experiments That Will Change The Way You Think About SEO (Forever) - https://seosherpa.com/seo-experiments/ 
    ⭐️ Google Search Console Links Report Is Broken - https://www.seroundtable.com/google-search-console-links-report-broke-41371.html 
    💎 Compact Keywords - My SEO Course - Get paying customers through SEO - Clear step-by-step video breakdowns - SEO templates to be copied and adapted for your products and services: https://compactkeywords.com/
    00:00 Search Console Link Bug
    00:44 What Are Link Echoes
    01:39 Moz Link Echo Experiment
    02:35 Results After Link Removal
    03:13 Rand Fishkin Confirms
    04:31 Key Takeaways for SEOs
    05:35 Other Explanations
    07:03 Link Echoes vs Penalties
    07:37 Practical Advice and Wrap
    09:01 Episode Closing
    The Edward Show. Your daily search engine optimization podcast: https://edwardsturm.com/the-edward-show/
    #searchengineoptimization #seo #linkbuilding #backlinks
  • The Edward Show

    Why SEO Gets Ignored Inside Big Companies (And How to Fix It) w/ Ash Nallawalla

    15/06/2026 | 1h 6 mins.
    E1077: Ash Nallawalla has been doing SEO for more than 25 years, mostly inside or alongside large companies. In this episode, we talk about why SEO so often gets ignored inside big organizations, even when leadership says organic search matters.
    Ash explains his idea of visibility governance: the rules, documentation, ownership, approvals, and accountability needed to make sure SEO recommendations actually get implemented.
    We get into why enterprise SEO is not just about knowing what to do. It is about getting the work through product, engineering, marketing, legal, content, analytics, and leadership.
    Topics covered:
    - Why SEO gets deprioritized inside big companies
    - What agencies often miss about enterprise SEO
    - Why in-house SEOs understand internal politics better than outside consultants
    - How SEO recommendations die in Jira, meetings, and approval chains
    - Why documentation matters so much for SEO
    - What visibility governance means
    - How Ash's Visibility Governance Maturity Model works
    - The role of ownership, accountability, and single points of failure
    - Why companies need clear owners for robots.txt, structured data, Search Console access, redirects, site performance, and content workflows
    - What small businesses can learn from enterprise SEO governance
    - Why SEO keeps changing, but the need for brand visibility does not
    - How AI search, LLMs, Reddit, YouTube, TikTok, and other platforms fit into organic visibility
    - Why many AI visibility tools miss basic SEO fundamentals
    - What Ash would do in the first 90 days if a CEO asked him to improve organic visibility
    Ash also shares stories from working with major Australian companies, including how he helped one large bank double organic traffic in eight months and triple it over time by getting the organization aligned around SEO.
    ⭐️ Ash Nallawalla on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashnallawalla/
    ⭐️ Ash Nallawalla on 𝕏 - https://x.com/ashnallawalla
    ⭐️ Ash Nallawalla's books - https://www.managingseobooks.com/
    ⭐️ Ash Nallawalla's business - https://crm911.com
    ⭐️ Shelley Walsh on Ash's work (Search Engine Journal) - https://www.searchenginejournal.com/how-to-avoid-top-down-seo-systems-failures-with-the-visibility-governance-maturity-model/570509/
    ⭐️ Ash Nallawalla on Search Engine Land - https://searchengineland.com/your-seo-maturity-score-doesnt-measure-what-you-think-it-does-471922
    💎 Compact Keywords - My SEO Course - Get paying customers through SEO - Clear step-by-step video breakdowns - SEO templates to be copied and adapted for your products and services: https://compactkeywords.com/
    00:00 Meet Ash Nallawalla
    00:28 SEO Origin Story
    04:30 Defining Visibility Governance
    08:46 VGMM Workshop Overview
    13:23 Agency vs In-House Reality
    15:20 Why SEO Gets Ignored
    22:45 Inside the Workshop Scoring
    30:23 Best Case Outcomes
    35:58 SEO Myths Repeat
    36:39 Complacent Agency Playbooks
    38:50 Where To Learn SEO
    41:51 WebmasterWorld Reality Check
    45:08 Following AI Thinkers
    46:40 Small Business SEO Governance
    48:57 From SEO To Brand Visibility
    54:14 Skepticism About New Tools
    01:01:12 90 Day Visibility Plan
    01:04:51 Where To Find Ash
    01:05:57 Episode Wrap Up
    The Edward Show. Your daily search engine optimization podcast: https://edwardsturm.com/the-edward-show/
    #enterpriseseo #agencyseo #searchengineoptimization #seo
  • The Edward Show

    Google's May Core Update Isn't Done: What June SERP Volatility Means for SEO

    14/06/2026 | 10 mins.
    E1075: Google's May Core Update may be officially over, but many SEOs and site owners are still seeing major ranking volatility in June.
    We break down what people are reporting across the search results, why the update may still feel active, and what types of sites and pages appear to be gaining or losing visibility.
    We cover the ongoing chatter around traffic drops, sudden ranking swings, e-commerce changes, YMYL volatility, and the broader shift away from generic or aggregated content.
    Topics covered in this episode:
    - Why SEOs are still seeing volatility after the May Core Update
    - What site owners are reporting about June ranking changes
    - Why aggregated and derivative content may be losing visibility
    - How firsthand experience and original references are being rewarded
    - Why some forums and Q&A sites may be seeing pullbacks
    - What is happening with local domains in markets like the UK
    - Why YMYL niches such as gambling, finance, and health often see sharper movement
    - How Google may be refining intent for high-risk queries
    - Why unique media and custom images can help pages better satisfy search intent
    - Why templated SEO content can become a risk
    - What to focus on during volatility instead of guessing
    The main takeaway: if you are creating searcher-first content, adding original information, building real authority, and making pages that directly satisfy intent, you are much more likely to stay stable through algorithm updates.
    Through the volatility, keep focusing on:
    - Original content
    - Firsthand experience
    - Strong topical relevance
    - Better search intent matching
    - Useful media
    - Brand mentions
    - Natural backlinks
    - Branded searches
    - Pages that are genuinely worth referencing
    ⭐️ Google Search Ranking Volatility This Week: June 8-12 - https://www.seroundtable.com/google-search-ranking-volatility-mid-june-41496.html
    ⭐️ Aleyda Solis's breakdown - https://www.aleydasolis.com/en/ai-search/google-may-2026-core-update-analysis-intent-market-fit-and-source-type-drove-the-biggest-visibility-shifts/
    ⭐️ Google Search Central Non-Commodity Content - https://developers.google.com/search/docs/fundamentals/ai-optimization-guide
    ⭐️ Gagan Ghotra's post - https://x.com/gaganghotra_/status/2060942457039458439
    ⭐️ Glenn Gabe's post - https://x.com/glenngabe/status/2061031181034905610
    💎 Compact Keywords - My SEO Course - Get paying customers through SEO - Clear step-by-step video breakdowns - SEO templates to be copied and adapted for your products and services: https://compactkeywords.com/
    00:00 May Update Still Shaking
    00:23 Volatility Reports Roundup
    01:49 Why This Update Feels Huge
    02:24 Deprioritized Content Patterns
    03:26 Forums And Aggregators Shift
    04:42 Local Domains Winning
    05:15 YMYL Intent Volatility
    06:20 Search Intent Checklist
    06:47 What Google Rewards Now
    07:15 Unique Media And UX Signals
    08:02 Avoid Templated SEO Pages
    08:38 Stay Calm and Build Authority
    09:41 Sign Off
    The Edward Show. Your daily search engine optimization podcast: https://edwardsturm.com/the-edward-show/
    #searchengineoptimization #seo #googlealgorithmupdate #searchmarketing
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