Living Well with Multiple Sclerosis

Making lifestyle changes with MS is one thing. Making them stick is another. In this episode of Living Well with MS, we speak with pharmacist-turned-health coach Dr Amy Behimer about why healthy habits can feel so difficult, especially when fatigue, stress and unpredictable symptoms get in the way. Drawing on her own experience of living with primary progressive MS, Amy shares a compassionate, evidence-informed approach to building habits that feel realistic, flexible and supportive in daily life.

Together, we explore the role of mindset in behaviour change, how to avoid all-or-nothing thinking, why perfectionism can backfire, and how to create routines that work on both good days and bad. If you feel overwhelmed by lifestyle change, this episode offers practical encouragement to help you start small and keep going.

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02:25 Amy’s MS journey and why habits became her focus
05:05 The six areas that shape health with MS
09:46 Why healthy habits are harder than they seem
13:38 Building habits when fatigue and symptoms are unpredictable
16:03 How mindset and emotions shape behaviour change
18:29 The real secret to living well with MS
22:25 Why perfectionism makes healthy habits harder to sustain
25:25 Can self-talk affect day-to-day energy and symptoms?
29:18 Creating flexible routines for good days and bad
30:53 Common habit traps and how to avoid them
33:10 Redefining health when you cannot control your diagnosis
34:58 Where to start when lifestyle change feels overwhelming
37:57 A simple daily practice to make change easier

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What does it really mean to live well with multiple sclerosis over the long term? In this episode, we’re joined by writer, podcaster and MS advocate Ardra Shephard, creator of Tripping On Air and author of Fallosophy: My Trip Through Life with MS. Ardra shares her journey from diagnosis in her early twenties to becoming a powerful voice in the MS community.

Together, we explore the realities of visible symptoms, stigma and learning to adapt when life doesn’t go to plan. Ardra reflects on why she chose to share her story publicly, the role of humour in coping with chronic illness, and how her memoir brings honesty and vulnerability to the MS experience.

She also discusses identity, relationships, and the importance of representation through her work in podcasting and adaptive fashion.

This conversation is a reminder that while MS can be challenging, it’s still possible to build a meaningful, joyful life.

Keep reading for the key episode takeaways and Ardra’s bio.

00:00 Introduction to Ardra and her MS journey
02:55 Why she shared her MS story publicly
06:00 Using humour to cope with chronic illness realities
09:08 Podcasting, relationships and the wider impact of MS
11:55 Changing representation through adaptive fashion and media
14:54 Key lesson: creating joy while living with MS

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Welcome to Living Well with MS podcast, where we are joined by Alison Potts. Alison is a meditation coach, wellbeing mentor, meditation teacher-trainer writer and teacher in self-care, meditation, and wellness. Largely due to her own healing journey with MS, she is passionate about teaching the power of cherishing our individuality and intuition, sharing practices to connection to our innate states of freedom, healing, creativity, spontaneity and joy. 

Originally broadcast in 2020, this episode has been edited to remove out-of-date content and reuploaded in 2026 to ensure it remains relevant and useful.

01:24 Tell us about yourself and your with MS and the Overcoming MS program 

07:17 What is your relationship to meditation? What’s Innate Being? 

18:36 What are the main obstacles you find people face in getting into a regular meditation practice? 

23:14 Tips for getting into good meditation practice? 

33:28 Top hacks for getting into the meditation groove and making it a healthy habit 

44:27 Alison conducts a mini guided meditation (5m) 

52:42 Any final words of wisdom or thoughts on embracing a meditation practice?

What role can diet play in autoimmune health, and what does the science say about plant-based eating and multiple sclerosis?

In this episode of Living Well with MS, we speak with Dr Elizabeth George, a board-certified family physician and co-founder of the Healthy Eating Adventure programme. With more than 40 years of experience in preventive care, she shares why she began exploring the impact of diet on chronic disease and autoimmune conditions.

The conversation explores the growing research linking whole-food plant-based diets, inflammation and the gut microbiome. Dr George explains how fibre-rich plant foods support beneficial gut bacteria, which produce compounds that help maintain gut health and influence immune function.

We also discuss practical ways people can start eating more plant-based foods, the importance of community support when making lifestyle changes, and how to have constructive conversations about diet with healthcare professionals.

Keep reading for the key episode takeaways and Dr George’s bio.

02:38 – Why a family physician turned to plant-based medicine
05:22 – The community experiment that launched a 28-day plant-based programme
09:53 – Can plant-based diets influence autoimmune conditions like MS?
11:42 – Gut microbiome, fibre and the link to inflammation
14:26 – Why most doctors receive little nutrition education in training
16:08 – Real patient stories of lifestyle change and chronic disease improvement
18:37 – Simple ways to start eating more whole plant foods
20:45 – How community groups help people sustain lasting lifestyle changes
24:38 – Talking to your doctor about diet and lifestyle choices
27:48 – Making plant-based cooking easy, enjoyable and family-friendly

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What role can diet play in supporting brain health and living well with multiple sclerosis?

In this episode of Living Well with MS, we explore the evidence behind the Overcoming MS diet recommendations and how small, consistent changes to the way we eat can support long-term health. Overcoming MS Program Facilitator and nutritionist Karen Lee explains the research linking diet quality with MS outcomes and introduces the principles behind the Overcoming MS dietary approach.

Karen is joined by fellow Program Facilitator and health coach Ingrid Adelsberger, who shares her personal experience of following the program for over a decade. Ingrid reflects on the practical realities of adapting to a new way of eating, from navigating label reading and meal planning to finding family-friendly recipes that make the diet sustainable.

Together, they explore why the Mediterranean-style dietary pattern underpins the Overcoming MS diet, how reducing saturated fat may support brain health, and why consistency matters more than perfection when making lifestyle changes.

This episode is a webinar highlights special – originally recorded as a live Overcoming MS webinar and now edited for the podcast to bring you the key insights, questions and takeaways in one place.

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00:00 Introduction to the Overcoming MS diet
01:34 Overview of the Overcoming MS Program and lifestyle pillars
05:35 Why diet matters in MS and the research behind diet and multiple sclerosis
16:02 What a brain-healthy Mediterranean-style diet looks like
23:54 Ingrid’s journey and creating the Overcoming MS cookbook
31:58 Q&A: common questions about the Overcoming MS diet
33:27 Whole grains, gluten and choosing healthier options
35:27 Managing weight and getting enough calories on a plant-based diet
37:30 Flaxseed oil, omega-3s and possible alternatives
39:29 Supporting bone health and osteoporosis with diet and lifestyle
42:45 Diet research in primary progressive MS
44:12 Processed vs ultra-processed foods

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