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You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist

Stephanie Winn
You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist
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  • You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist

    215. Disenfranchised Dad, ROGD Kid: When Fathers Get Sidelined in Their Own Family

    25/05/2026 | 24 mins.
    In this short solo episode, I introduce you to a figure who shows up again and again in my ROGD parent coaching work: the disenfranchised dad. He's usually a decent man — hardworking, opinionated, loves his kids — but somewhere along the way he ended up on the outside of his own family's emotional life, looking in. His wife is the emotional center. The kids bring everything to her. He drifts to the periphery and starts commenting on dinner from across the room, and the family rolls its eyes.
    I unpack how this pattern develops: a temperament mismatch between a Gen X dad and a more sensitive child, a marriage dynamic where mom gradually takes over the kids' inner lives, and a cultural script that has trained fathers to undervalue their own role. I look at what this does to children — including how it can show up in trans-identified boys who opt out of masculinity entirely, and in trans-identified girls carrying an unread longing for a father's protective love.
    Most importantly, I talk about repair. The way back isn't a grand sit-down conversation; it's hundreds of small moments of presence, side-by-side time, and putting down the running commentary. Moms can help by stepping out of the gatekeeper role and letting dads back in. If you've been on the edge of your family for years, this episode is for you.
    If you’re a parent navigating these dynamics in your own family, I created ROGD Repair with you in mind. This podcast episode doubles as an ROGD Repair bonus lesson. In the course, it can be found here, along with a companion essay and reflection questions to help you personalize the material. There’s lots more content like this for you in the program. It’s the closest thing to working with me one-on-one as a coach. ROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2026 to take 50% off your first month.

    PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCourses

    PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services.

    MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission.

     ALL OTHER LINKS HERE.

    To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend!
    Learn more about Do No Harm.

    Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com.
    Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi.
    Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products.
    Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI.
    Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission.

    Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or Instagram at @affirmationgeneration.
    Have a question for me? Looking to go deeper and discuss these ideas with other listeners? Join my Locals community! Members get to ask questions I will respond to in exclusive, members-only livestreams, post questions for upcoming guests to answer, plus other perks TBD.

    ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
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    214. Too Buddhist, Not Self-Hating Enough: Counseling Whistleblower Suzannah Alexander

    18/05/2026 | 1h 48 mins.
    In this episode, I sit down with Suzannah Alexander — counseling-education whistleblower, writer of the Substack Diogenes in Exile, and now organizer with the National Association of Scholars. Suzannah enrolled in a Tennessee counseling master's program after 25 years as a stay-at-home parent, only to discover that what was being taught wasn't psychology at all. It was demographics, identity politics, and what she eventually came to call a totalitarian philosophy dressed up as "multicultural competency."
    We unpack the moment that broke her trust in the program: when she described the Buddhist practice of the non-self — focusing less on your own identity so you can extend loving kindness toward an aggressive client — three separate professors told her, within 48 hours, that this was "invalidating to other identities." She was ultimately deemed unsafe for practicum because she hadn't sufficiently absorbed the program's values around whiteness, privilege, and cultural deference.
    From there, the conversation widens into the structural picture. Suzannah walks us through CACREP, the accrediting body that's been quietly building a near-monopoly on counseling education, the ACA Code of Ethics that's now baked into most state licensure boards, and the consortium of organizations that decided — without testing whether any of it produces better clinical outcomes — that critical social justice ideology would be the "professional identity" of American counseling.
    We talk about why this matters for patients, what it does to the people who would have been excellent therapists, how we might build alternative training pathways and apprenticeship models outside the current system, and why the problems of the 21st century — including AI psychosis — will demand the kind of pioneering, free-thinking practitioners this ideology is actively driving out.
    Suzannah Alexander is the External Affairs Coordinator for the National Association of Scholars. She came to this work after blowing the whistle on ideological indoctrination in the Clinical Mental Health Counseling Master's program at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. Since that experience, through work with FAIR, she has spearheaded OCR complaints against the counseling accreditation body CACREP and Colorado State University, where her reporting work drew attention to the Whitelash Study, documenting public humiliation of white social work students due to their race, and the disparagement of minorities as not good enough to succeed on their own. Now she is focused on policy measures to curtail accreditor and higher education overreach that are threatening free speech on campus.
    Substack Diogenes in Exile: https://www.diogenesinexile.com
    X/twitter: https://x.com/DiogenesInExile
    Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@DiogenesInExile
    Minding The Campus: https://mindingthecampus.org/author/suzannahalexander/
    National Association of Scholars: https://www.nas.org
    [00:00:00] Start
    [00:04:59] What She Found In The Program
    [00:14:32] Steel-Manning Critical Social Justice
    [00:18:39] Pushed Out Before Practicum
    [00:24:05] The Bitter Irony Of Buddhism Rejected
    [00:34:37] Realizing The Problem Is Bigger
    [00:41:02] Counseling Futures And The Historical Roots
    [00:47:09] Who Gets To Be Okay?
    [00:56:37] What CACREP Is And Should Do
    [01:00:25] Microaggressions And Borderline Thinking
    [01:05:47] The CACREP Monopoly Explained
    [01:14:38] ACA Code Of Ethics And The Need For Alternatives
    [01:22:52] Mia Hughes Parallel And A Field Breaking Down
    [01:26:43] AI Psychosis And 21st-Century Problems
    [01:30:22] Building New Networks Outside The System

    ROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2026 to take 50% off your first month.

    PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCourses

    PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services.

    MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission.

     ALL OTHER LINKS HERE.

    To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend!
    Learn more about Do No Harm.

    Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com.
    Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi.
    Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products.
    Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI.
    Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission.

    Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or Instagram at @affirmationgeneration.
    Have a question for me? Looking to go deeper and discuss these ideas with other listeners? Join my Locals community! Members get to ask questions I will respond to in exclusive, members-only livestreams, post questions for upcoming guests to answer, plus other perks TBD.

    ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
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    213. History Unfolding: Gender Ideology as Civilizational Warfare with Matt Osborne

    11/05/2026 | 1h 40 mins.
    Today I welcome back conflict historian Matt Osborne for his third appearance on the show — and our first since meeting in person at the Genspect conference in Albuquerque. Matt writes at The Distance Magazine, reviews books for Genspect, and brings a perspective to the gender critical movement that almost no one else in our space has: the long view of someone trained to study why human beings fight, kill, and build civilizations — and why they sometimes destroy them.
    What is a military historian doing in this fight? Matt's answer takes us from a pivotal conversation with a tenured professor about sex difference and primitive warfare, to his realization that gender ideology and the ideologies that drive war are operating from the same playbook — what he calls "activist mysticism," the belief that saying the right magical words can bend reality to your will.
    From there we cover an enormous amount of ground: how transgender ideology hollows out a nation's ability to defend itself, why pacifism makes you less safe rather than more, Ibn Khaldun's cycle of hard times and soft men, the role of ideology in giving people permission to commit violence, and why Hollywood's "girl boss" era has gutted franchise after franchise by erasing sex difference. We talk about Audrey Hale, Pol Pot, World War II rifleman training, Brazilian jujitsu, Project Hail Mary, Outlander vs. Bridgerton, and Thucydides' three causes of war — fear, honor, and interest.
    We close on what gives Matt hope: kids who are voluntarily turning back toward analog things, tabletop games, paper books, and the old idea that you go outside until dinner. The questions this conversation aims to explore: What happens to a civilization that can no longer defend itself? Why does ideology — any ideology — eventually end in violence? And is it possible to win this fight without losing what makes us human in the process?
    Matt Osborne is a US Army veteran and a former Democrat. He was featured in a 2020 documentary by Andrew Rossi called “After Truth”. The documentary is about his outsider campaign in the 2017 Alabama special senate election that sent Doug Jones to Washington. Matt left the party over gender identity politics in 2018. Since then, he has earned a master’s degree in military history and become an outspoken critic of gender identity politics. He is a book reviewer for Genspect and he has three websites. He covers transgender issues at The Distance Magazine.

    -The Distance Magazine — gender critical writing
    -Polemology — the study of war 
    -Osborne Ink — politics, culture, and everything outside gender and war
    Follow Matt on X @OsborneInk, @PolemologyFix, and @DistMag.
    [00:00:00] Start
    [00:08:28] Marx As Mystic And The Roots Of Ideology
    [00:10:25] How Gender Ideology Hollows Out The Military
    [00:17:24] Is Vs. Ought And The Inevitability Of War
    [00:21:48] Ibn Khaldun's Cycle Of Hard Times
    [00:28:23] Why Learning To Fight Makes You Peaceful
    [00:36:15] Gender Ideology As Psychological Warfare
    [00:40:39] Sex Differences In Conflict And Hierarchy
    [00:50:35] The Girl Boss And Hollywood's Decline
    [00:59:09] Why Historical Fiction Tells The Truth
    [01:06:30] Documenting An Ideological War
    [01:09:05] Permission, Riflemen, And Violence
    [01:21:17] Thucydides: Fear, Honor, And Interest
    [01:25:37] Restoring Sports And A Positive Future
    [01:32:06] The Kids Are Going Analog
    ROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2026 to take 50% off your first month.

    PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCourses

    PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services.

    MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission.

     ALL OTHER LINKS HERE.

    To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend!
    Learn more about Do No Harm.

    Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com.
    Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi.
    Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products.
    Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI.
    Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission.

    Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or Instagram at @affirmationgeneration.
    Have a question for me? Looking to go deeper and discuss these ideas with other listeners? Join my Locals community! Members get to ask questions I will respond to in exclusive, members-only livestreams, post questions for upcoming guests to answer, plus other perks TBD.

    ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
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    212. The Most Dangerous Moment: The 30 Seconds That Determine Whether Your Child Opens Up Again

    04/05/2026 | 16 mins.
    Instead of a long-form interview, this week I'm reading you an essay I wrote called The Most Dangerous Moment in the Conversation: What To Do and What Not To Do When Your Child Finally Opens Up. It originally appeared inside ROGD Repair, my comprehensive program for parents of trans-identified youth, and I wanted it to reach more people.
    If your child is living inside a trans identity, most of the time she shows you nothing — composed, contained, deliberately blank. And then one day, out of nowhere, a seam shows. A flash of urgency. A disproportionate demand. A flicker of alarm about who will be at a party. These are what I call fractal windows: ordinary-looking moments where the entire architecture of the anxiety organizing her life becomes briefly visible. In this episode I unpack what those moments actually are, why they matter, and how to handle them without slamming the door shut.
    The core tool I want to put in your hands is the empathic guess — a tentative, careful statement that names what your child might be feeling, without diagnosing, arguing, or correcting. I walk through what to say, what not to say, and why the 30 seconds after she finally says something real just might be the most dangerous point in the entire process. That's where almost every parent's instincts pull them in exactly the wrong direction — toward defending themselves, correcting the factual or ideological distortions, or winning the point. I'll explain why staying in the emotional register (instead of the logical one) is the whole game, why "permission to buy time" is one of the most underused parenting tools, and what you are actually building over many such conversations: a pattern in your child's nervous system that says: I opened up to my parent, something okay happened, I could do that again.
    [00:00:00] Start
    [00:00:25] When Your Child Finally Opens Up
    [00:01:33] Fractal Windows And The Cost Of A Trans Identity
    [00:03:24] The Outermost Knot: Why You Can't Say It All At Once
    [00:04:13] Introducing The Empathic Guess
    [00:05:05] Stay In The Emotional Register, Not The Logical One
    [00:06:33] When The Empathic Guess Lands: The Walls Come Down
    [00:07:50] The Pull To Correct Ideological Distortions
    [00:08:47] Why You Are Not Endorsing By Not Arguing
    [00:09:36] Listen, Reflect, Don't Defend
    [00:10:24] Permission To Buy Time
    [00:11:10] What You're Really Building: A Nervous System Pattern
    [00:11:40] About ROGD Repair And Today's Experiment
    [00:14:44] Closing Thoughts
    ROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2026 to take 50% off your first month.

    PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCourses

    PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services.

    MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission.

     ALL OTHER LINKS HERE.

    To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend!
    Learn more about Do No Harm.

    Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com.
    Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi.
    Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products.
    Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI.
    Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission.

    Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or Instagram at @affirmationgeneration.
    Have a question for me? Looking to go deeper and discuss these ideas with other listeners? Join my Locals community! Members get to ask questions I will respond to in exclusive, members-only livestreams, post questions for upcoming guests to answer, plus other perks TBD.

    ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
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    211. Mia Hughes: Trans as an Extreme Overvalued Belief — Cracking the Code

    27/04/2026 | 1h 39 mins.
    In this episode, I welcome back Mia Hughes — director of Genspect Canada, senior fellow at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute, and one of the sharpest writers on the gender scandal — to dig into the framework she calls "trans as an extreme overvalued belief." Mia walks us through the history of the overvalued idea, from Carl Wernicke in 1892 to Paul McHugh's post-9/11 application of the concept to ideologically driven violence, and explains why this psychiatric category — sitting between delusion and obsession — finally makes sense of the trans phenomenon in a way no other diagnosis ever has.
    We trace the Dutch origins of medical transition in the 1970s, the moment psychiatry "gave up" on these patients, and how WPATH's 2010 de-psychopathologization statement re-engineered a mental illness into a celebrated identity — triggering, in Mia's view, the social contagion that followed. I bring my clinical lens to the conversation, exploring transference and countertransference, neuroplasticity, the hijacking of dopamine through "gender euphoria," and why so many therapists get this wrong in both directions. We close on Mia's anorexia parallel and what it teaches us about loosening the grip of a pathological belief — gently, indirectly, and without the parent in the line of fire.
    Mia Hughes specializes in researching pediatric gender medicine, psychiatric epidemics, social contagion and the intersection of trans rights and women’s rights. She is the author of The WPATH Files, a senior fellow at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute and director of Genspect Canada. She co-hosts the Beyond Gender podcast with Stella O'Malley and Bret Alderman, available on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube. Follow her on X @_CryMiaRiver. Follow her Substack @CryMiaRiver.
    Mia first appeared on this podcast in episode 107. Exposing Gender Malpractice: Mia Hughes on the WPATH Files, Medical Ethics, & Informed Consent.
    Books mentioned in this episode:
    • The Extreme Overvalued Belief by Tahir Rahman
    • Good Girls: A Study and Story of Anorexia by Hadley Freeman
    [00:00:00] Start
    [00:02:13] Trans as an Extreme Overvalued Belief
    [00:07:13] From 9/11 to Anders Breivik
    [00:11:13] Neuroplasticity and Adolescent Meaning-Making
    [00:18:52] Defining the Trans Overvalued Belief
    [00:22:52] The Dutch 1970s: When Psychiatry Gave Up
    [00:31:00] Countertransference and the Therapist's Role
    [00:38:35] WPATH's Fortress and the True Believer
    [00:43:20] Re-Psychopathologization Campaign
    [00:45:45] How HBIGDA Became WPATH
    [00:50:13] DSM-5, ICD-11 and the Sleight of Hand
    [01:02:08] Hacking Dopamine and Gender Euphoria
    [01:06:27] The Anorexia Parallel
    [01:13:13] What Therapists Get Wrong
    [01:28:45] Putting Cracks in the Belief
    [01:35:26] Helping the Part That Wants Out
    ROGD REPAIR Course + Community gives concerned parents instant access to over 120 lessons providing the psychological insights and communication tools you need to get through to your kid. Now featuring 24/7 personalized AI support implementing the tools with RepairBot! Use code SOMETHERAPIST2026 to take 50% off your first month.

    PODCOURSES: use code SOMETHERAPIST at LisaMustard.com/PodCourses

    PRODUCTION: Looking for your own podcast producer? Visit PodsByNick.com and mention my podcast for 20% off your initial services.

    MUSIC: Thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude & permission.

     ALL OTHER LINKS HERE.

    To support this show, please leave a rating & review on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe, like, comment & share via my YouTube channel. Or recommend this to a friend!
    Learn more about Do No Harm.

    Take $200 off your EightSleep Pod Pro Cover with code SOMETHERAPIST at EightSleep.com.
    Take 20% off all superfood beverages with code SOMETHERAPIST at Organifi.
    Check out my shop for book recommendations + wellness products.
    Show notes & transcript provided with the help of SwellAI.
    Special thanks to Joey Pecoraro for our theme song, “Half Awake,” used with gratitude and permission.

    Watch NO WAY BACK: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care (our medical ethics documentary, formerly known as Affirmation Generation). Stream the film or purchase a DVD. Use code SOMETHERAPIST to take 20% off your order. Follow us on X @2022affirmation or Instagram at @affirmationgeneration.
    Have a question for me? Looking to go deeper and discuss these ideas with other listeners? Join my Locals community! Members get to ask questions I will respond to in exclusive, members-only livestreams, post questions for upcoming guests to answer, plus other perks TBD.

    ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
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About You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist
A podcast at the intersection of psychology and culture that intimately explores the human experience and critiques the counseling profession. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills wisdom gained from her practice as a family therapist and coach while pivoting towards questions of how to apply a practical understanding of psychology to the novel dilemmas of the 21st century, from political polarization to medical malpractice. What does ethical mental health care look like in a normless age, as our moral compasses spin in search of true north? How can therapists treat patients under pressure to affirm everything from the notion of "gender identity" to assisted suicide? Primarily a long-form interview podcast, Stephanie invites unorthodox, free-thinking guests from many walks of life, including counselors, social workers, medical professionals, writers, researchers, and people with unique lived experience, such as detransitioners. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s interdisciplinary psychological lens investigates challenging social issues and inspires transformation in the self, relationships, and society. She is known for bringing calm warmth to painful subjects, and astute perceptiveness to ethically complex issues. Pick up a torch to illuminate the dark night and join us on this journey through the inner wilderness. You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist ranks in the top 1% globally according to ListenNotes. New episodes are released every Monday. Three and a half years after the show's inception in May of 2022, Stephanie became a Christian, representing the crystallization of moral, spiritual, and existential views she had been openly grappling with along with her audience and guests. Newer episodes (#188 forward) may sometimes reflect a Christian understanding, interwoven with and applied to the same issues the podcast has always addressed. The podcast remains diverse and continues to feature guests from all viewpoints.
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